Focused Feedback: Reward Merits

[kelika2]

I personally do not get either side of this change but I am thankful AE vet exp is returned back to how it was.

 

On one hand, the time it takes to AE exp someone to level 99 is a hefty chunk of time.  My farmers Tier3 around vet level 12-15 and Tier4 around vet level 45-50, and the emps earned 50-99 are pretty small in number.  Like, the amount of INF gained from farming that much greatly outweighs the merits from leftover emps.  dont make me do math

 

I forgot what the other hand was.  probably something about math

[Redletter]

On 8/4/2022 at 7:12 PM, arcane said:

Hyperbole and this forum will never part. I mean 30 seconds of Rune of Protection uptime was the cause of the previous weeks-long forumpocalypse. Wild, really.

 

Ok but Rune of Protection IS the PLAINLY best power in the game ever ever and the fact the uptime is ever touched by the devs ever ever means they HATE THIS GAMe, you can tell, the numbers just don't lie. Anyone who loves this game would volunteer their time and effort to make changes I would make, not ones THEY would make.

 

Duh.

[Seed22]

On 8/4/2022 at 6:57 PM, Dazl said:

There seems to be a bit of hyperbole about the impact of this change and the fallout it will create. It’s a transaction that never should have been allowed in the first place. There are plenty of merits to be had, if you want them go earn them. This only takes away the 4100 free merits you would get if you sold all the vet emps. While that is a decent sum, it’s not game breaking and can be earned relatively quickly over time. Even more so after the change because you will have new ways to earn them, along with the tradition methods. Why do you think so many of us do hami raids?

Its the only reason I do a hami raid and even then I miss a good amount on purpose in favor of TFs or iTrials. Hami is to me the objective worse endgame content to ever exist in CoH. Lucky it has 120 merits attached to it( back to back run) 

[Carnifax]

On 8/5/2022 at 3:12 AM, arcane said:

Hyperbole and this forum will never part. I mean 30 seconds of Rune of Protection uptime was the cause of the previous weeks-long forumpocalypse. Wild, really.

In fairness we got good Arcane Bolt and Enflame out of all that drama so it ended up well

 

("Good" is possibly a strong word for Enflame now. "Not dogpoo" might be better)

 

Pity the ball wasn't carried in sorting out the other two origin pools, they've still got a fair amount of poo in there)

[ShardWarrior]

On 8/4/2022 at 7:57 PM, Dazl said:

There are plenty of merits to be had, if you want them go earn them.

 

Earning the EMP merits from Vet levels by doing "right/correct/approved" content and converting them is earning them, same as running TFs over and over.

[arcane]

37 minutes ago, Carnifax said:

In fairness we got good Arcane Bolt and Enflame out of all that drama so it ended up well

 

("Good" is possibly a strong word for Enflame now. "Not dogpoo" might be better)

 

Pity the ball wasn't carried in sorting out the other two origin pools, they've still got a fair amount of poo in there)

Enflame is now a fantastic power and the #1 reason I typically dig into Sorcery all the time now.

[Redletter]

On 8/10/2022 at 7:43 AM, Carnifax said:

In fairness we got good Arcane Bolt and Enflame out of all that drama so it ended up well

 

("Good" is possibly a strong word for Enflame now. "Not dogpoo" might be better)

 

Pity the ball wasn't carried in sorting out the other two origin pools, they've still got a fair amount of poo in there)

Don't bully Enflame, she's cute and multiplies DPS for basically nothing, to the point where I like to have it on defenders who help farmers farm faster. Slot that slut with Knockdown, or Immobilize, or BOTH if you wanna double stuff her like an oreo and watch as hordes turn to extra crispy bacon.

[Yumichan]

On 7/18/2022 at 8:20 PM, Booper said:

The Empyrean/Astral Merit to Reward Merit conversion has been removed from Reward Merit vendors.

 

Please do not put this terrible change into place.  I heavy rely on converting to items to sell for influence and rewards merit to buy recipes.  I do not want to be force into teaming so much. 

[arcane]

Just now, Yumichan said:

 

Please do not put this terrible change into place.  I heavy rely on converting to items to sell for influence and rewards merit to buy recipes.  I do not want to be force into teaming so much. 

You will not be forced into teaming by this change?

[Ruin Mage]

1 hour ago, Redletter said:

Don't bully Enflame, she's cute and multiplies DPS for basically nothing, to the point where I like to have it on defenders who help farmers farm faster. Slot that slut with Knockdown, or Immobilize, or BOTH if you wanna double stuff her like an oreo and watch as hordes turn to extra crispy bacon.

Are you okay? Is this a cry for help?

[Seed22]

18 minutes ago, Shadeknight said:

Are you okay? Is this a cry for help?

Yeahh I’m kinda concerned after reading that

[Crasical]

2 hours ago, Redletter said:

Don't bully Enflame, she's cute and multiplies DPS for basically nothing, to the point where I like to have it on defenders who help farmers farm faster. Slot that slut with Knockdown, or Immobilize, or BOTH if you wanna double stuff her like an oreo and watch as hordes turn to extra crispy bacon.

Is it actually that good? I got the impression it wouldn't proc well because it's got multiple psudeopets dropping for every fire patch, and the character I was going deep into Sorcery with was a Controller, so not great damage there to begin with.

[PeregrineFalcon]

I never farm.

 

This new change is going to mean that the 4 or 5 Empyrean merits that I have in my email will now be worthless to me. Guys like me who just play the game, our ability to help alts is going to be severely hampered, but farmers will still be able to continue earning vet levels and rewards, you're not even slowing them down.

 

Swing and a miss.

[MoonSheep]

2 hours ago, PeregrineFalcon said:

I never farm.

 

This new change is going to mean that the 4 or 5 Empyrean merits that I have in my email will now be worthless to me. Guys like me who just play the game, our ability to help alts is going to be severely hampered, but farmers will still be able to continue earning vet levels and rewards, you're not even slowing them down.

 

Swing and a miss.

 

sounds like i need to hurry up and convert the 262 i have sitting on my main!

[Bionic_Flea]

I've never converted emps to reward merits.  I think it's a bad exchange and that the emps are much more valuable.  I use them to create rare and very rare salvage to work my way up to T3 or T4 on everything and send spares to alts to do the same, but quicker.

 

So while this won't affect me at all, I do hope that the HC team considers allowing conversions but on a timer.  How many to convert at once and how long to wait for the next conversion is beyond my bug brain.

[golstat2003]

35 minutes ago, Bionic_Flea said:

I've never converted emps to reward merits.  I think it's a bad exchange and that the emps are much more valuable.  I use them to create rare and very rare salvage to work my way up to T3 or T4 on everything and send spares to alts to do the same, but quicker.

 

So while this won't affect me at all, I do hope that the HC team considers allowing conversions but on a timer.  How many to convert at once and how long to wait for the next conversion is beyond my bug brain.

 

Once you stop making alts or are Tier 4'd up the EMPS are pretty much useless. The only value left was converting them into Reward Merits and then those into converters to convert uncommons into rares and sell them on the AH. Doing this has netting me billions over the last year.

 

EDIT: With that said I would rather have this then the loss of vet levels.

Edited August 11, 2022 by golstat2003

[Troo]

8 minutes ago, golstat2003 said:

With that said I would rather have this then the loss of vet levels from AE farming,

 

I added a little that you left off.

[ShardWarrior]

19 minutes ago, golstat2003 said:

Once you stop making alts or are Tier 4'd up the EMPS are pretty much useless. The only value left was converting them into Reward Merits and then those into converters to convert uncommons into rares and sell them on the AH.

 

Thank you.  I do the same thing.  I have already gotten all the characters I wanted to at T4 incarnates, so I used excess EMP merits to convert to Reward Merits to fill in holes in IO sets or to buy purples or ATOs.  Getting the EMP merits via Vet levels to use for other things was a nice bonus.  Now I am just going to have to farm even more to make up for that loss.  Instead of coaxing me out of AE, this idiotic change is encouraging me to spend even more time in AE to make up for the lost conversion.  Just being honest, this is not making me want to play more, it is making me want to play less and less. 

 

As @PeregrineFalcon put it so eloquently, yet another swing and a miss. 

[Bionic_Flea]

28 minutes ago, golstat2003 said:

Once you stop making alts . . .

 

Sacrilege!  😜

[Vanden]

1 hour ago, golstat2003 said:

Once you stop making alts or are Tier 4'd up the EMPS are pretty much useless. The only value left was converting them into Reward Merits and then those into converters to convert uncommons into rares and sell them on the AH. Doing this has netting me billions over the last year.

 

But if you stop making alts, isn't inf just as useless?

[ShardWarrior]

12 minutes ago, Vanden said:

But if you stop making alts, isn't inf just as useless?

 

No, not if you make a lot of costume changes. 😁

[MoonSheep]

13 minutes ago, Vanden said:

 

But if you stop making alts, isn't inf just as useless?

 

but.. my pile of loot! my pile!

[arcane]

5 hours ago, PeregrineFalcon said:

I never farm.

 

This new change is going to mean that the 4 or 5 Empyrean merits that I have in my email will now be worthless to me. Guys like me who just play the game, our ability to help alts is going to be severely hampered, but farmers will still be able to continue earning vet levels and rewards, you're not even slowing them down.

 

Swing and a miss.

You realize 4 or 5 emp merits = 40-50 reward merits = 10 minutes on an Apex TF? 
 

You probably should’ve lied about the scale of your loss 🙂 

[Troo]

1 hour ago, Vanden said:

But if you stop making alts, isn't inf just as useless?

 

it makes a nice sliding hill..

[Troo]

Seriously though, it would be interesting to hear how many Empyrean to Reward Merit conversions happened is the past month.

Just to get a sense of scale.

 

I wonder because this is a lot of reward merits being dumped into the game. 1 or 2 characters of Empyrean conversions verses dozens of players getting straight reward merits.

(I need to start dumping some RMs)

 

 

Edited August 11, 2022 by Troo