Glacier Peak Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 Folks, I am interested in reading about character design changes in this game. Was Statesman originally a scrawny asthma stricken kid from Brooklyn who couldn't enlist in the Army? Did Sister Psyche ever have super speed? What about these super heroes we see every time we log in to the game? Share your trivial knowledge! Add in some in-game lore or AMA if you can too! Spoiler The reason I started this thread was because of Back Alley Brawler's current incarnation, (really since pre-destroyed Galaxy City), has been as shown: Current (Atlas Park) 2023 Back Alley Brawler: Former (Galaxy City) 200?-201? Back Alley Brawler: Thanks @Ashington! Former (Galaxy City) 2004 Back Alley Brawler: Thanks Gamespot! Pre-release Back Alley Brawler: Pocket D Zone Tour Best Post Ever.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snarky Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 The biggest change in characters is the Clockwork King. Who went from a stalkery youth with superpowers to a (after a definitive beatdown by a hero) brain in a jar robo-chomo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glacier Peak Posted July 6, 2023 Author Share Posted July 6, 2023 58 minutes ago, Snarky said: The biggest change in characters is the Clockwork King. Who went from a stalkery youth with superpowers to a (after a definitive beatdown by a hero) brain in a jar robo-chomo Whoa really? I thought it had to do with... Spoiler ... Blue Shield basically murdering the kid? 1 1 Pocket D Zone Tour Best Post Ever.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Fabulous Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 Off the top of my head I can't think any of heroes who got costume changes, except for Statesman's cape. Penny Yin perhaps, but I think that's more of seeing her evolve over time in-game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snarky Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 47 minutes ago, Glacier Peak said: Whoa really? I thought it had to do with... Hide contents ... Blue Shield basically murdering the kid? A definitive beatdown by a Hero = Blue Shield basically murdering the kid. What...am I speaking Urdu here? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheZag Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 (edited) Swan had that feather thing added. Bastion was renamed to Citadel to avoid legal concerns. I think Ms Liberty got her belt later as well as Mynx getting her emblem. BaB skin tone change was probably the most noticable. Its mostly a bunch of little changes, usually costume additions, to the characters. Edited July 6, 2023 by TheZag 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Techwright Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 1 hour ago, TheZag said: BaB skin tone change was probably the most noticable. Is that the change between those first two in-game photos of BaB up above? I'm looking them over and not noticing any difference. I thought it might be the musculature, but that could be explained by the angle of the shot creating an illusion of sorts. Skin tone never occurred to me as one shot is in heavy shade for the full shot. Don't forget that Positron, as his story progressed, was given a model that had the helmet removed. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glacier Peak Posted July 6, 2023 Author Share Posted July 6, 2023 53 minutes ago, Techwright said: Is that the change between those first two in-game photos of BaB up above? I'm looking them over and not noticing any difference. I thought it might be the musculature, but that could be explained by the angle of the shot creating an illusion of sorts. Skin tone never occurred to me as one shot is in heavy shade for the full shot. Don't forget that Positron, as his story progressed, was given a model that had the helmet removed. Without having access to my old screenshots, I can only anecdotally confirm Michael White was once white skinned. 1 1 Pocket D Zone Tour Best Post Ever.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheZag Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 51 minutes ago, Techwright said: Is that the change between those first two in-game photos of BaB up above? I'm looking them over and not noticing any difference. I thought it might be the musculature, but that could be explained by the angle of the shot creating an illusion of sorts. Skin tone never occurred to me as one shot is in heavy shade for the full shot. The 2004 screenshot of BaB has a much lighter skin tone. I remember ingame after seeing the change and thinking 'oh, they made him black' as he had always looked hispanic or having the perfect tan in the earlier iteration. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarlet Shocker Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 1 hour ago, Techwright said: Don't forget that Positron, as his story progressed, was given a model that had the helmet removed. The unkindest cut of all! Just a shame they didn't remove a lot more! Positron went from a relatively obscure quiet scientist to being an annoying front and centre egocentric shite! 1 The Ghost Slaying Axe. The very best there is. When you absolutely, positively got to kill every motherspectre in the room, accept no substitutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmperorSteele Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 Hamidon used to be a person. =P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemming Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 Praetorians got a makeover when they expanded the storyline. Clockwork got an overhaul for Neuron & Antimatter. Siege & Nightstar got tweaked. (Siege more so) You still see some of the old minions in some of the extra missions, most notable Praetor Duncun... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyriVerse Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 On 7/5/2023 at 8:30 PM, Glacier Peak said: Was Statesman originally a scrawny asthma stricken kid from Brooklyn No, but States was affected by Mustard Gas in WWI and was quite ill before getting superpowers from the Well of Furies. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyperstrike Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 On 7/5/2023 at 10:06 PM, Captain Fabulous said: Off the top of my head I can't think any of heroes who got costume changes, except for Statesman's cape. Penny Yin perhaps, but I think that's more of seeing her evolve over time in-game. Well, the thing with CK and Penny was kinda...well...KINDA... Sorta squick level of Tyrant and Dominatrix... Pre-revamp of the Praetorians. 1 If you want to be godlike, pick anything. If you want to be GOD, pick a TANK! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyperstrike Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 11 hours ago, lemming said: Praetorians got a makeover when they expanded the storyline. Clockwork got an overhaul for Neuron & Antimatter. Siege & Nightstar got tweaked. (Siege more so) You still see some of the old minions in some of the extra missions, most notable Praetor Duncun... Duncan's storyline was also tweaked to remove some rather "squicky" things. 1 If you want to be godlike, pick anything. If you want to be GOD, pick a TANK! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tidge Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 23 hours ago, Techwright said: Don't forget that Positron, as his story progressed, was given a model that had the helmet removed. IIRC, at launch Positron also had a costume that used the circuitry-looking overlay to his costume. I had picked the same for my launch-day character and I was slightly non-plussed to find an NPC with the similar costume. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darmian Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, Hyperstrike said: Duncan's storyline was also tweaked to remove some rather "squicky" things. There was no storyline to tweak. Any "squick" was a combo of player readings and, as pointed out by the OG Devs, a single image in the comics where the artist hadn't known Domi was Tyrant's granddaughter.* *Probably not conveyed by the writer to the artist considering how many comics are scripted etc. Edited July 7, 2023 by Darmian 1 1 AE SFMA Arcs: The Meteors (Arc id 42079) | Dark Deeds in Galaxy City: Part One. (Arc id 26756) X | Dark Deeds in Galaxy City: Part Two. (Arc id 26952) | Dark Deeds in Galaxy City: Part Three. (Arc id 27233) Darker Deeds: Part One (Arc id 28374) | Darker Deeds: Part Two. (Arc id 28536) | Darker Deeds: Part Three. (Arc id 29252) | Darkest Before Dawn: Part One (Arc id 29891) | Darkest Before Dawn: Part Two (Arc id 30210) | Darkest Before Dawn: Part Three (Arc id 30560) | Bridge of Forever ( Arc id 36642) | The Cassini Division (Arc id 37104) X | The House of Gaunt Saints (Arc id 37489) X | The Spark of the Blind (Arc id 40403) | Damnatio Memoriae (Arc id 41140) X | The Eve of War (Arc id 41583) X | Spirals: Part One. (Arc id 55109) | Spirals: Part Two. (Arc id 55358) | Spirals: Part Three. (Arc id 57197) I Sing of Arms and the Man (Arc id 42617) | Three Sisters (Arc id 43013) (Pre War Praetorian Loyalist. Pre War Praetorian Resistance. Pre ITF Cimerora. Post ITF Cimerora. X = Dev Choice/Hall of Fame ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheZag Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 The line that used to be in her bio that said she served Cole in all capacities didnt help. I think that line is gone now. Thats the problem with text though, one persons innocent comment is another persons dirty joke. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glacier Peak Posted July 8, 2023 Author Share Posted July 8, 2023 On 7/6/2023 at 11:42 AM, EmperorSteele said: Hamidon used to be a person. =P The Praetorian one looks just like Dexter from Dexter's Laboratory. 1 Pocket D Zone Tour Best Post Ever.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darmian Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 8 hours ago, TheZag said: The line that used to be in her bio that said she served Cole in all capacities didnt help. I think that line is gone now. Thats the problem with text though, one persons innocent comment is another persons dirty joke. Yep. If it had been in Chimera's bio it would never have been read that way. The game was effectively PG13, so no, the "squick" didn't exist. 1 AE SFMA Arcs: The Meteors (Arc id 42079) | Dark Deeds in Galaxy City: Part One. (Arc id 26756) X | Dark Deeds in Galaxy City: Part Two. (Arc id 26952) | Dark Deeds in Galaxy City: Part Three. (Arc id 27233) Darker Deeds: Part One (Arc id 28374) | Darker Deeds: Part Two. (Arc id 28536) | Darker Deeds: Part Three. (Arc id 29252) | Darkest Before Dawn: Part One (Arc id 29891) | Darkest Before Dawn: Part Two (Arc id 30210) | Darkest Before Dawn: Part Three (Arc id 30560) | Bridge of Forever ( Arc id 36642) | The Cassini Division (Arc id 37104) X | The House of Gaunt Saints (Arc id 37489) X | The Spark of the Blind (Arc id 40403) | Damnatio Memoriae (Arc id 41140) X | The Eve of War (Arc id 41583) X | Spirals: Part One. (Arc id 55109) | Spirals: Part Two. (Arc id 55358) | Spirals: Part Three. (Arc id 57197) I Sing of Arms and the Man (Arc id 42617) | Three Sisters (Arc id 43013) (Pre War Praetorian Loyalist. Pre War Praetorian Resistance. Pre ITF Cimerora. Post ITF Cimerora. X = Dev Choice/Hall of Fame ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huang3721 Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 14 hours ago, Darmian said: Any "squick" was a combo of player readings. . . 11 hours ago, TheZag said: The line that used to be in her bio that said she served Cole in all capacities didn't help. People living in an authoritarian regime always serve their leader in all capacities. Or else. Also, I think someone should get their mind out of the gutter. Or, maybe check their prejudice against other less democratic political systems. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyperstrike Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 3 hours ago, huang3721 said: Or, maybe check their prejudice against other less democratic political systems. Yeah...Don't see that happening anytime short of the Heat Death of the Universe. 1 If you want to be godlike, pick anything. If you want to be GOD, pick a TANK! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glacier Peak Posted July 8, 2023 Author Share Posted July 8, 2023 So other dramatic character changes across the life of the game? Aurora Borealis and Sister Psyche? That was a surprise to me. What about any arch villains? Pocket D Zone Tour Best Post Ever.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arbegla Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 On 7/8/2023 at 7:37 AM, Glacier Peak said: So other dramatic character changes across the life of the game? Aurora Borealis and Sister Psyche? That was a surprise to me. What about any arch villains? Malaise multiple times over. First in the long forgotten Task Force (now Story Arc) from the original 'husband' of Aurora, to his change from being under Sister Psyche's wing as a sidekick/mental project to his flip in the SSA. His story is very convoluted and confusing if you try to untangle all the times he's mentioned. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herotu Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 On 7/6/2023 at 2:37 AM, Snarky said: The biggest change in characters is the Clockwork King. Who went from a stalkery youth with superpowers to a (after a definitive beatdown by a hero) brain in a jar robo-chomo Hero 1's costume change was pretty radical. 2 ..It only takes one Beanbag fan saying that they JRANGER it for the devs to revert it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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