Attuned Enhancement question

[Cold Hard Cash]

Hey everyone. Having a blast on this game again. But I had a good question ( I hope ). What exactly are "Attuned" enhancements for? I know you can effectively use the Catalyst to turn ATO's to purple. But what of the regular IO purple/orange sets? What does attuning them do for me? What's the general purpose of attuning? Should I be attuning everything I wear?

[Adeon Hawkwood]

So first off you only need to use catalysts if you want to upgrade ATEs to the Superior version. The market here uses a bracketing system so the Attuned version of an Enhancement will always cost the same as the regular version (the market just takes a regular enhancement someone is selling and auto-converts it to an attuned version for you.

 

Now to answer your question, Attuned enhancements function like the store bought enhancements did back on live. Basically they will level up with your character so they always have the same stats as IOs of your level but they retain their stat bonuses when you exemplar down unless you go more than three levels below the lowest end of the set range. The only disadvantage compared to regular IOs is that you can't use enhancements boosters on them.

 

So in general you should buy attuned IOs except for Purple and PvP sets (which retain set bonuses when exemplaring anyway) and sets where you want to use enhancement boosters.

 

As a a related note, the market here is quite a bit different from live. It uses a bracketing system so all levels of an IO share a common bid pool as does all salvage of a given rarity. Additionally Enhancement Converters are super cheap (3 per merit) so it is often cheaper to buy a crafted/attuned enhancement than it is to buy the recipe and craft it yourself (basically someone else will have crafted a cheap enhancement and then converted it into the one you need).

[_NOPE_]

Can you buy attuned "regular" non-set IOs in the market anywhere? I can only see sets. If there are non-set attuned IOs, can someone post a screenshot of where to find them?

[Sothoth]

You can, in the 'Other' category.

[MunkiLord]

Can you buy attuned "regular" non-set IOs in the market anywhere? I can only see sets. If there are non-set attuned IOs, can someone post a screenshot of where to find them?

 

Do you mean like generic IOs for damage or recharge or accuracy?

[_NOPE_]

Yup, generics.

[Zolgar]

Yup, generics.

 

Those do not exist unfortunately. :(

 

Granted, if you're not looking for high demand sets, you can find attuned for a lot of the IO types from low demand sets for reasonable prices.

[_NOPE_]

Bummer... can you even get a generic attuned IO somehow? If so, how? Or are they restricted to sets alone?

[Zolgar]

Bummer... can you even get a generic attuned IO somehow? If so, how? Or are they restricted to sets alone?

 

Sets alone, which is unfortunate IMO

[Myrmidon]

Bummer... can you even get a generic attuned IO somehow? If so, how? Or are they restricted to sets alone?

 

The purpose of attuned sets is so that those sets aren’t level-locked and retain their bonuses across their entire level range. As I would love to see the answer in print:

 

Why would you want Attuned Common enhancements?

[_NOPE_]

Bummer... can you even get a generic attuned IO somehow? If so, how? Or are they restricted to sets alone?

 

The purpose of attuned sets is so that those sets aren’t level-locked and retain their bonuses across their entire level range. As I would love to see the answer in print:

 

Why would you want Attuned Common enhancements?

 

Unless I'm misunderstanding how they worked, I thought that their benefits "scaled down" with your level, so that you never under-level them when you exemplar, and they always "work", just to a diminished capacity. Or am I totally not getting it?

[Robotech_Master]

Enhancement sets have bonuses that they give you for slotting more than one Enhancement from that set in the same power. Those set bonuses normally only apply when you're at or above a level where you could have slotted those enhancements. Bonuses you get from having a set of level 40s slotted, for example, would only apply when you're exemplared no lower than level 37.

 

The purpose of Attunement is to let you keep those set bonuses as far down as the set you're slotting exists. For example, if the set is a 20 to 40 set, you'll keep those bonuses all the way down to level 20. (Possibly 17. I'm not sure.)

 

Attunement doesn't have anything to do with the bonuses provided by the Enhancement itself. Those bonuses scale down in effectiveness based on a formula looking at what level you originally were and what level you exemplared down to, just as with common IOs, SOs, Hami-Os, or any other kind of Enhancement. You only need to worry about Attunement if you want to be sure you keep the extra set bonuses.

 

So, there wouldn't be any benefit to Attuning a Common IO. Those don't have set bonuses, and they already scale down in the usual way.

 

Now, if you Attune a set, you can't also Boost it. Attunement and Boosting are mutually exclusive. Boosting a set means using Enhancement Boosters on each IO to add up to 5 levels over its original level--so a level 40 IO could be brought up to the equivalent of level 45, gaining additional bonuses therein. A level 50 common IO could be made effectively level 55. So, if you aren't concerned about exemplaring down and just want to be the best 50 you can be, you might prefer to Boost rather than Attune.

 

Even if you mostly Attune, you can still get benefit from boosting any Common IOs, Hami-Os, etc. that go in non-set-slotted powers. For example, two level 50+5 Recharge Rate IOs in Hasten will make it very nearly perma. And they'll scale down when you exemplar just the same as any other Enhancement will.

[Shinobu]

Attunement doesn't have anything to do with the bonuses provided by the Enhancement itself.

 

So, there wouldn't be any benefit to Attuning a Common IO. Those don't have set bonuses, and they already scale down in the usual way.

 

This is not entirely true.  An attuned damage IO (generic, no set bonuses) could be slotted at a low level, and it would scale up as you gained levels -- unlike, say, a level 15 damage generic IO that stays level 15.

 

But they never introduced such a thing as an attuned generic, and in any case it's never that expensive to replace your generic IOs when all is said and done, unless you're trying to replace them every five levels or something.  Generics already have the advantage that they don't get weaker or wear out / go red, so that seems like more than enough advantage over SO's to me.

 

 

[_NOPE_]

Enhancement sets have bonuses that they give you for slotting more than one Enhancement from that set in the same power. Those set bonuses normally only apply when you're at or above a level where you could have slotted those enhancements. Bonuses you get from having a set of level 40s slotted, for example, would only apply when you're exemplared no lower than level 37.

 

The purpose of Attunement is to let you keep those set bonuses as far down as the set you're slotting exists. For example, if the set is a 20 to 40 set, you'll keep those bonuses all the way down to level 20. (Possibly 17. I'm not sure.)

 

Attunement doesn't have anything to do with the bonuses provided by the Enhancement itself. Those bonuses scale down in effectiveness based on a formula looking at what level you originally were and what level you exemplared down to, just as with common IOs, SOs, Hami-Os, or any other kind of Enhancement. You only need to worry about Attunement if you want to be sure you keep the extra set bonuses.

 

Ah, thank you. I totally misunderstood what the point of attunements were. Then I guess I won't bother with them until I hit 50 then and want to twink out my character.

[srmalloy]

So first off you only need to use catalysts if you want to upgrade ATEs to the Superior version. The market here uses a bracketing system so the Attuned version of an Enhancement will always cost the same as the regular version (the market just takes a regular enhancement someone is selling and auto-converts it to an attuned version for you.

 

I fail to see how "buy the enhancement attuned" is a solution for "I have this recipe and want to make it attuned when I craft it".

[subbacultchas]

Enhancement sets have bonuses that they give you for slotting more than one Enhancement from that set in the same power. Those set bonuses normally only apply when you're at or above a level where you could have slotted those enhancements. Bonuses you get from having a set of level 40s slotted, for example, would only apply when you're exemplared no lower than level 37.

 

The purpose of Attunement is to let you keep those set bonuses as far down as the set you're slotting exists. For example, if the set is a 20 to 40 set, you'll keep those bonuses all the way down to level 20. (Possibly 17. I'm not sure.)

 

Attunement doesn't have anything to do with the bonuses provided by the Enhancement itself. Those bonuses scale down in effectiveness based on a formula looking at what level you originally were and what level you exemplared down to, just as with common IOs, SOs, Hami-Os, or any other kind of Enhancement. You only need to worry about Attunement if you want to be sure you keep the extra set bonuses.

 

Ah, thank you. I totally misunderstood what the point of attunements were. Then I guess I won't bother with them until I hit 50 then and want to twink out my character.

Do consider buying and slotting the ones you want as you level up though, which is what I did with my last toon. Since they scale with you, unlike normal IOs, they become better as you level albeit in rather small increments. But they can be useful at 20, all the way to 50, then you don't have to replace them at 50 either, and the sets often work exemplared too. It also seems to me like it spreads out the money you spend over quite a few levels, instead of hitting 50 and having that grind to get them all.

 

Either way is totally flavor and neither is wrong, but I think I've enjoyed slotting them at lower levels (usually 22-27 starting).

[Robotech_Master]

Ah, thank you. I totally misunderstood what the point of attunements were. Then I guess I won't bother with them until I hit 50 then and want to twink out my character.

Well, one other thing about Attunements is that Attuned IO sets can be slotted at any point across their range, and will act like the version available at your current level as you level up. So if you know you're going to want something slotted at 50, and you can slot it now Attuned, you might as well go ahead.

[Vanden]

Attunement doesn't have anything to do with the bonuses provided by the Enhancement itself. Those bonuses scale down in effectiveness based on a formula looking at what level you originally were and what level you exemplared down to, just as with common IOs, SOs, Hami-Os, or any other kind of Enhancement. You only need to worry about Attunement if you want to be sure you keep the extra set bonuses.

 

Attunement has plenty to do with the bonuses of the enhancement by itself, it makes them go up as you level up if you slot them before 50.

[Adeon Hawkwood]

So first off you only need to use catalysts if you want to upgrade ATEs to the Superior version. The market here uses a bracketing system so the Attuned version of an Enhancement will always cost the same as the regular version (the market just takes a regular enhancement someone is selling and auto-converts it to an attuned version for you.

I fail to see how "buy the enhancement attuned" is a solution for "I have this recipe and want to make it attuned when I craft it".

Well I thought it was implied but if you want to be literal then the solution is:

1. Craft your recipe

2. Sell the crafted enhancement

3. Use that inf from that sale to buy an attuned version of the enhancement

 

And for completeness sake if you've already slotted the enhancement the solution is:

1. Buy an enhancement unslotter

2. Unslot your enhancement

3. Sell the unslotted enhancement

4. Use that inf from that sale to buy an attuned version of the enhancement

 

Since the attuned and non-attuned versions of the enhancement share the same set of market listings and an enhancement catalyst generally costs 4-6million using catalysts to attune enhancements is a huge waste of inf. In fact in many cases you can buy an attuned enhancement for less than the cost of a catalyst. Using catalysts for anything other than upgrading ATOs to the superior version is basically wasting inf.

[Sakai]

While we are here can you Boost a Hetacomb or other purple?

[Zolgar]

Bummer... can you even get a generic attuned IO somehow? If so, how? Or are they restricted to sets alone?

 

The purpose of attuned sets is so that those sets aren’t level-locked and retain their bonuses across their entire level range. As I would love to see the answer in print:

 

Why would you want Attuned Common enhancements?

 

So I can slot at 7 and not have to replace it until I am 50 and doing sets?

[Papaschtroumpf]

Yes as long as the IO can exist at lvl10. Some IOs don't start till lvl30 or 30 so you can't slot those till 17 or 27, even if rheyr attuned.

[Adeon Hawkwood]

While we are here can you Boost a Hetacomb or other purple?

Yes, you have to buy them as crafted not attuned though.

[Myrmidon]

Bummer... can you even get a generic attuned IO somehow? If so, how? Or are they restricted to sets alone?

 

The purpose of attuned sets is so that those sets aren’t level-locked and retain their bonuses across their entire level range. As I would love to see the answer in print:

 

Why would you want Attuned Common enhancements?

 

So I can slot at 7 and not have to replace it until I am 50 and doing sets?

 

If you use Attuned set IOs, you can slot them as soon as those sets become available and keep the bonuses whether you Exemplar down or play at 50.

[Myrmidon]

So first off you only need to use catalysts if you want to upgrade ATEs to the Superior version. The market here uses a bracketing system so the Attuned version of an Enhancement will always cost the same as the regular version (the market just takes a regular enhancement someone is selling and auto-converts it to an attuned version for you.

I fail to see how "buy the enhancement attuned" is a solution for "I have this recipe and want to make it attuned when I craft it".

Well I thought it was implied but if you want to be literal then the solution is:

1. Craft your recipe

2. Sell the crafted enhancement

3. Use that inf from that sale to buy an attuned version of the enhancement

 

And for completeness sake if you've already slotted the enhancement the solution is:

1. Buy an enhancement unslotter

2. Unslot your enhancement

3. Sell the unslotted enhancement

4. Use that inf from that sale to buy an attuned version of the enhancement

 

Since the attuned and non-attuned versions of the enhancement share the same set of market listings and an enhancement catalyst generally costs 4-6million using catalysts to attune enhancements is a huge waste of inf. In fact in many cases you can buy an attuned enhancement for less than the cost of a catalyst. Using catalysts for anything other than upgrading ATOs to the superior version is basically wasting inf.

 

Another option is to buy cheap Attuned IOS and convert them into something that you want.