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I have posted, on several occasions, that I had a bad experience on Live, with an Ice/Axe tanker. While I made it to 50 (this was pre-IO and pre-incarnate), he was immediately shelved, in favor of my usual Stone and Inv tanks. Well, @Warboss convinced me to roll another and...color me impressed. Even with only 40% Fire def, he can hang in 54/8 fire farms (with EBs). I got *really* lucky and was invited to one of @Linea's 801 AE runs last night, this one an 801.7. Linea was running one of their usual indestructible scrappers (EM/EA, as I recall), but I was the only tank. There was also a spider VEAT, and the other five were a mix of trollers, corruptors and one defender. LOTS of deaths, but the only time I died, outside a team wipe, was when three or more of the EB mobs were aggro'd (and it wasn't me, I promise 😆), and it was only twice in the 45 min. or so it took to finish the mish. This was also with only the T1 Resilient Alpha and whatever insp dropped during the mish. I *was* smart enough to get the defense amplifier, before I went to Pocket D, because I knew it could get ugly, quickly. Any tips or comments on the build are greatly appreciated: This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.1.2.5 https://github.com/LoadedCamel/MidsReborn AVALNCH_2.0: Level 50 Mutation Tanker Primary Power Set: Ice Armor Secondary Power Set: Stone Melee Power Pool: Leaping Power Pool: Fighting Power Pool: Leadership Ancillary Pool: Earth Mastery Hero Profile: Level 1: Frozen Armor -- Rct-ResDam%(A), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(3), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(3) Level 1: Stone Fist -- SprGntFis-Rchg/+Absorb(A), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(5), SprGntFis-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(5), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(7), SprGntFis-Dmg/Rchg(7), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg(9) Level 2: Chilling Embrace -- ImpSwf-Dam%(A) Level 4: Heavy Mallet -- SprBlsCol-Rchg/HoldProc(A), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(9), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(11), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(11), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx(13), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg(13) Level 6: Wet Ice -- EndRdx-I(A) Level 8: Hoarfrost -- Prv-Heal/Rchg/EndRdx(A), Prv-Heal/Rchg(15), Prv-Heal(15), DctWnd-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(21), DctWnd-Heal/Rchg(23) Level 10: Taunt -- MckBrt-Taunt(A), MckBrt-Rchg(31), MckBrt-Taunt/Rng(31), MckBrt-Taunt/Rchg/Rng(33), MckBrt-Taunt/Rchg(33), MckBrt-Acc/Rchg(33) Level 12: Super Jump -- BlsoftheZ-ResKB(A), WntGif-ResSlow(27) Level 14: Permafrost -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A) Level 16: Icicles -- SprMghoft-Rchg/Res%(A), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(17), SprMghoft-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(17), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(19), SprMghoft-Dmg/Rchg(19), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg(21) Level 18: Glacial Armor -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(27), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(29), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(29), Ksm-ToHit+(31) Level 20: Combat Jumping -- RedFrt-Def/EndRdx(A) Level 22: Kick -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A) Level 24: Tough -- UnbGrd-Max HP%(A), Ags-Psi/Status(34), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(34), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx(34), Ags-ResDam/Rchg(36) Level 26: Energy Absorption -- LucoftheG-Def(A), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg(36), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(36), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(37), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(43), LucoftheG-EndRdx/Rchg(45) Level 28: Tremor -- SprAvl-Rchg/KDProc(A), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(37), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(37), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(39), SprAvl-Dmg/EndRdx(39), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg(39) Level 30: Weave -- Rct-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(A), Rct-Def/EndRdx(40), Rct-Def(40) Level 32: Maneuvers -- RedFrt-Def/EndRdx(A) Level 35: Build Up -- GssSynFr--ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(A), GssSynFr--Build%(40) Level 38: Seismic Smash -- SprEnt-Rchg/AbsorbProc(A), SprEnt-Acc/Hold/End/Rchg(42), SprEnt-Acc/Hold/End(42), SprEnt-End/Rchg(42), SprEnt-Hold/Rchg(43), SprEnt-Acc/Hold(43) Level 41: Salt Crystals -- RechRdx-I(A) Level 44: Fault -- AbsAmz-ToHitDeb%(A), AbsAmz-EndRdx/Stun(45), AbsAmz-Acc/Rchg(45), AbsAmz-Acc/Stun/Rchg(46), AbsAmz-Stun/Rchg(46), AbsAmz-Stun(46) Level 47: Quick Sand -- IceMisTrmt-+ColdDmg(A), IceMisTrmt-Acc/Dam/End/Rech(48), IceMisTrmt-Acc/Dam/End(48), IceMisTrmt-Dam/Slow(48), IceMisTrmt-Dam/Rech(50) Level 49: Stalagmites -- Rgn-Dmg/EndRdx(A), Rgn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(50), Rgn-Knock%(50) Level 1: Gauntlet Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A) Level 1: Sprint -- Qck-EndRdx/RunSpd(A) Level 2: Rest -- IntRdx-I(A) Level 1: Swift -- Run-I(A) Level 1: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A) Level 1: Health -- Prv-Absorb%(A), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(23), Mrc-Rcvry+(25) Level 1: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A), PrfShf-EndMod(25) Level 12: Double Jump Level 50: Resilient Total Core Revamp Level 50: Diamagnetic Interface Level 50: Melee Core Genome ------------ | Copy & Paste this data into Mids Reborn : Hero Designer to view the build | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| |MxDz;1450;700;1400;HEX;| |78DA5D93C94F535114C6EF6B5FA174A094022D9441CAD042E1D93A6E250C5168914| |4C3B669F0412BA5256D4D742F0E3B45D48DE386C4BDEE1D70E1ECCAF90FD0286074| |E5C23C4FDF776E005FD2FEDEFDEE3DE77CE7DEFB92A7475CB3B3638784E21ACEA54| |BA5D4F1747E5E2FDA93A7CAE972B69017F43887A6871293C387537BB458358D0358| |931AD167F57C49D78ECCE8A9A1E242A12827927A4ED7B563E5425EC7BB704D150A3| 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Make it two...Energy Aura (Armor)

Adding an extra zero in the /AH. Nothing like spending 20,000,000 on a FF +recharge 🙂 ...or buying Enhancement Converters, ten at a time, then accidentally buying 10 uniques, because I forgot to change it back to one each...

^----aaaaand, this. My version of 2. is in AV fights. I love kicking Rommie, whilst on one of my Inv tankers in the ITF, mocking him. Take THAT, shin guard. As you say, not expecting anything, but what a great feeling when it actually procs. Also, on 1., you've already spent $600+M on a fully tricked out Inv/SS build, so what's $2M in chump change (or less than $1M if you lowball the recipe/components and craft it), to NOT have to look at that empty slot.

Happy to help...and I'm the guy who winds up talking tanks...in all sections 🤑 Here's WP-F. Started him to fire farm ('cause I'm a tank guy) and, in the absence of ITF-scale defense debuffs, can deflect, defer and regen through damn near anything. Using Vorpal Judgement really makes his defense numbers silly... I will agree that Fiery Melee is not the best at anything, but does have nice places for the ATOs. I also go "against the norm" and routinely use the T9. Can't have a toon named "Will", without using the power "Strength of WIll", right? Props to @Sovera, as much of the WP side of this build is borrowed (stolen) from one of his builds and to @Warboss, for his template for Fiery Melee and, as his signature states: "Nothing warms your opponent like fiery melee"... https://www.midsreborn.com/builds/download.php?uc=1484&c=719&a=1438&f=HEX&dc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his scrap is a remake from Live and lives up to his "Slicer/Dicer" name: https://www.midsreborn.com/builds/download.php?uc=1461&c=689&a=1378&f=HEX&dc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

Don't have a broot, but have both a very durable (and enjoyable) tank: WP/Fiery and another hella-fun WP scrapper (DB/WP), if you're interested.

War Mace!...if nothing else, for the taunt animation 😆

So, mine is WM (no inherent heal), and since my positional defenses were already soft-capped I chose: Alpha - Resilient (Core) Hybrid - Melee (Core) Destiny - Rebirth (pick your fave) Interface - Diamagnetic (Core for all my tanks) Judgement - Mighty (theme appropriate) Lore - pick 'em Makes for a ridiculously durable tank (and the mace-banging-the-shield taunt is just gravy :-)). https://www.midsreborn.com/builds/download.php?uc=1588&c=727&a=1454&f=HEX&dc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

Agree with Farm Fresh, which this build is based. Spines/Fire still does awfully well: https://www.midsreborn.com/builds/download.php?uc=1563&c=731&a=1462&f=HEX&dc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

Here's my version (Inv/SS), but I also tag along on fire farms, so it's a bit modified (I also live with the Arachnos blindness and take Pyre mastery (instead of Energy mastery), to slot the +absorb proc on Char...and to have a ST hold for Sappers, and the like). Data chunk is without the MoT AT and the stat snip that follows is completely incarnated. https://www.midsreborn.com/builds/download.php?uc=1621&c=775&a=1550&f=HEX&dc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dd 6.7% to each Resist below, x2 on many occasions: And keep in mind that Inv is a layered/complimentary set, so with 50% DDR, you rarely lose your defenses and, as you can see with 10 mobs around you, not much gets through...

Best of luck and the only SR I ever had was a really fun Claws/SR scrapper on Live (pre-IO/pre-Incarnate), that I did get to 50. My main (currently ~VL 400) is NUT, and you're right, he's much more fun ex'd down to mid 30s or above, where I have to actually use Dull Pain to survive. +4/*8 ITFs are a cakewalk. Having said that, there's not much more satisfying than Foot Stomp, every 7-10 seconds 🙂

I went the "as durable as possible" route, and in homage to Heraclea, but if you're interested in a (no ToF) Inv/DM build, here's mine: https://www.midsreborn.com/builds/download.php?uc=1460&c=728&a=1456&f=HEX&dc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ncarnated, the toon is virtually unkillable (especially with Dull Pain and Siphon Life).

Last night was a blast and thanks for leading the TinPex, WB....many nuts were cracked, for sure!

About spit my drink out, on this one 😆

...and to avoid the most-frustrating-thing-in-the-game blinding by Arachnos...

You remember correctly. Invuln's Invincibility is one of the best taunt auras (and a phenomenal defensive boost).

^--this When I rolled my Ice/Axe tank on Live it was before the IO (and long before the Incarnate system), and he was frustrating as hell, being used to maining a Stone tank. With no DDR, even low level CoT were a problem. I made it to 50 (because I'm a stubborn fool who tries to never give up), but then shelved him and never played him, again. I'm intrigued with ice melee, however, and may just roll a WP/Ice or Inv/Ice, instead.

DId you mean DB/Fire?

Absolutely, positively, THE aggro magnet. Nice work. Only Ice tank I ever made to 50 was an Ice/Battle Axe on main (FRZRBRN)...should have done Ice/Ice, in hindsight...

Four tank Posi (ex'ed to what, lvl 12) was interesting, but we were mighty!...even at /8, so we fought two each of our Sims... Pep's sim was the *worst* and got a couple of us...darned EM. 😆 Missed Hera, but I ran my Inv/DM tank (predominately their build), in their honor. Damn that build is durable!

Bad ass, as usual 🤑

My titular toon is Stone/SS and his Earth's Embrace replied to your post..."what am I, chopped liver"? 🤣

Haven't taken Rad to 50, and haven't done a spines tank....well, ever, but if you want the classic (unkillable) Invulnerabilty/Super Strength tank, with some Pyre mastery debuffs, this is your guy (props to Hyperstrike and Infinitum for the base): https://www.midsreborn.com/builds/download.php?uc=1621&c=775&a=1550&f=HEX&dc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f you want an unkillable Inv/Dark Melee (props and homage to Heraclea's original build), with more debuffs, I run (and will run him tonight, in their honor), you can try this one: https://www.midsreborn.com/builds/download.php?uc=1460&c=728&a=1456&f=HEX&dc=78DA5593494F535114C7EF6B5F292D05C40A652CB4944EC0A318170E31D1D8A2C810428D5B7CCA031A9AD2B485D0BD386CDDB871C0A51FC08D6EFD040E01940FE0849AA80C467D9EBEFFB9019AB4BFDEFFB9E7FCCFB9EFBEB1E5A4676666E89C503C17B27AB1387545CFCD1B05E7B85E5A2CE859411F6FF2FCE4C8782A9D9E4C0D5F1C4F772D9DD0124ED2FDD83A9534668C5CD1D086734B8BD99C51D0AF67B29952D9C7E131236B185A522FCCE3AFF04C2C2C64B55143CF6772B3B5D66228333B57A255BD0C4D1B85E25C26EFB6D6E9BC614C7B53F9CC0D2D45F567CB53637AB16414CACDD44588BEAF5CF4A3547A15A643FCB40B31A80ADB2FE636A8EE804776C1A618654454B16D255BD9A61023840E55BC76494D98AAC21555AE58C515ABB8622B577C434976AEE4B07F8058FD91F909747F667E013D5BE05B4A76C8191CECD8CC8E7E76F4B363173BB6F20C3B94ECC40998AAF33D829177E0C006185FE70358035FC484704947173B7AD8B18E1DEBD8B1991D037BE02E39D6F0AC6ACD499B251E3DC53C0D1E3BC33C0BFAE8DAD40A388ADA4D88BFA9523DF7EEA8BFAB62C03BCCDB60E016D8B702F6DF04D729B941B1FA30ED0D8D8A2576D781213738F8144E7BB4D92B9FB4B708718DC446F9A41BF914BAF914BAF914DAF914E2F2EED0203E4E527C6CDBFE03C10DAAD8C2415B0B0703DC53987BFA439BDA14C5694DDDF600D3841F82FE4760E431185BE5A99F80364AEB908374AC60103B899DD2B6F3387A0955BAA4FB1CE28BF2976C838A70589B824B02E5CBCC65F01F6DEAE1C764EF09A37C380246A2605F0C54C9362A6DA33CED004F9BE0691B6853AF3CE45EDED43F841EFB86F99E5E02B5113048499ABC2D5A6FA5379758A558428A890037AEEEBFFF66BB2AE4C7ACAC4D538C1E92AAD0F8842A734854DA5069CBBDFFDE0BA51FE2D7436214E2B703A2A25CC5F1365D06BF1F0ADE8761FC1EF832BEFF1698D7E8251C94AD3FF31E5854FB0E2C9E07692173FE031561DD5D Nothing, however (IMHO) is as satisfying as Foot Stomp, every 7-10 seconds (so go with NUTCRCKR). But I'm old school...

Don't feel bad, as I've experienced the same with WP. As a self-proclaimed Invulnerability fanboy, I was dismayed when I took my WP/Fiery Melee tank into ITF and got royally waxed (albeit at +4/8), at the dark ambush. Realized the difference between 50% DDR and 21.6% is *immense*. The regen of WP, which is more than enough for 99% of all PVE content, wasn't enough for ITF. Easily fixed with Barrier or Ageless (Radial version) Destiny Incarnate, but you've gotta plan for that, if being able to main tank everything. Having said that, I truly love the tank that I posted above, as he can tank almost everything at +4/8 (including ITF, now), including fire farming...and, as mentioned above, YES he takes the T9 (because, well, his name includes "Will", so "Strength of Will" is a must :-)).

😆