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☝️ - this. Not that respeccing at 50, to be a "true and only" Incarnate is a bad thing, my pre-I1 experience trained my brain that even, in those instances I power-leveled a toon to 50, the builds have been and will always be leveling builds, with incarnates as bonus. You can see it in my tank builds, as they are all primary heavy early, because a tank's job isn't necessarily to kill things, it's to keep your teammates from being killed...while they kill things....err, "arrest".

Why I humble myself in Linea's AE801-s and anxiously await the next update, with even higher difficulty settings. Having said that, it's because I loved the game where teaming was king, because every AT was needed. I'm an old school herding tank and, in not much other than a +4/8 ITF - if then, Incarnate teams steamroll everything...without the need for herding.

Fully kitted-out Inv/SS (this is NUTCRCKR's build), within a crowd (10 mobs for Invincibility) with Resilient and Melee Incarnates: Just silly, but definitely not "cheating"...

I see what you did there...😊

/cough/ Invuln /cough/

Same with my Inv/SS tanks. Not DPS monsters but indestructible aggro mongers who put most of the mob on its back, every 9 seconds 🙂

So sorry I missed it. Unfortunately, still having ISP issues, two months after Hurricane Ida... Good news is the infrastructure is no longer temporary and a permanent fix was applied, last night. Kudos to the Cox linesmen, who worked from about 9AM yesterday to 2:46AM, this morning....straight. PLV is on Indom, so it's my "favorite" TT of the month... Anyone who's interested, I'll probably run a Yin, tonight on Indom. See you on Exc, next week, for sure!

I see what you did there...

I'm old, from the classic pre-I1 and love the Superman/Hulk powersets, so it's Super Strength, for me. Foot Stomp? THE most satisfying attack, in the entire game. Hand Clap? The Hulk would be proud. Knockout Blow? Bolo wind up, hits like a freight train and watch them fly.

I only use the hero creator, so it's Spines/Fire/Fire, rather than the classic Spines/Fire/Electric, but no less effective, in my book. Many more variations and levels of expense (this one ain't cheap), in the "Farm Fresh Builds" thread. https://www.midsreborn.com/builds/download.php?uc=1507&c=712&a=1424&f=HEX&dc=78DA6594CB4F135114C6EFB4532BD04A4B5BCA9B52A440B1434BD1C4578888450C1802892E49C52B4ED214D216A4EE5CB857C018131FA0A03B57F2F091A83B83465D1AFF071F0B372ECC7898EFA46DD2499ADFDC6FCEFBDEDBB1C521C7F3E11B0342A93A9D4A66B3538399F99CB44F4EEB323D2D053DCEC4C4D8C4E0C4C5F38185B816B5935263DA4C8DC99494DAE49C9E96D93A4843F28A4C67A596D065263F756A3E93148EF1D9D994362A936437E33417097DE66A8E5695E66A724ECACB6EF37524BDA067F54B7A4ACFE5DD67E6F4696D3C9FA144C96C8EE2D551EA30FD3E84043F864DDC528588A9A2FD36787089B9C25C064377C0CD3D37C5F4B58A7EC5D40E44997130E02736AB6237C4A6C250951316F39BE528F318A81E07F79D04B7C9DA0A1F8BF52C7977D2B761D03102D6D20C6DA841D87CC8F98972D939975D43ACFDBDCC28581961C6403F3954C087C8759156C5B1AB6E42B392E6E49E9D7D56537371CF2E9E81977B57C9B61AB66A35D7D6E2023BFF09732EDD7FC1B017FA162DDDF0B1B95711BF668DF918AC7D02D6AD3337C057E4E531A76C583C2BA8D7BB04762F8341AAC987F88AAF47201EF333CDCDCFB9FD0BD0DAF2CCEBCC6B60FB22181E40EE2FE45BCF33AF67DF06B66DE018218E1162DFD784463E7B8DF771A69A1E301F822D8F98AB60780DFC48F99AE1AB3473FDDDCC1D422BFAB0B4F2DE04786F0231F00D7D0DB27F90FD3A99DFA8A50E3E771DCFF8DB06D8FB14FCE310A28B6DBADED36C3DAA88BC03636FC1EF14A787FBEB7981BA0F6D32B798DB606487F912FC4AFD693C4FAD1F7BD77B981907637DCC23A093F636CA6738CAE72DA116EEA8D1A416EEFADED230C468A9124167E36AE1A60AA511DA8F4AD2F826286CF7B354EB82F6ABA859940B7C0BDA7042DACFE1C6FE2EDA28CA5D54EEE0531A2EAB305AA6C4CA947899D25FA654B80AFF25C6B08792F14CD683C5F7DD12DDE72DBEDF2BD1FF03C3D8E1E8

That looks hella-fun! Like the taunt duration in AAO and made me wonder. Would the PZ +chance for Psi proc in the AOE? Would it even slot?

<----unashamed Invulnerability fanboy Agree with everything said about "layering". Why Inv and Shield are so good, if you're looking at just survivability. I will say, however, when the Def numbers go in the red, even at 90% resist, when being hit by 10, 15, 20 enemies at at time (I'm looking at you Romanesque Cimerorans), that 10% can add up to feel like a sort of cascading failure...

And also referencing Krimson and BZB, there is already another way to pay, what, 200,000,000 INF to "craft" Rare incarnate components (25,000,000 each for Uncommon x4 and another 100,000,000 for the Rare)....

It's a "combo" based attack set, like Street Justice. Does make you work to get the combos in order, but not really challenging, once you get the rhythm down. I've never used it on a tank, but had a wonderful DB/WP scrapper on Live. Lots of animations, lots of damage.

Welcome to the "club" and glad you're enjoying it!

Oh, and if you slot the Gaussian's chance for +Build Up in Invincibility, it constantly goes off, while surrounded...

So this is Inv/SS, but has a more balanced Res/Def. Nearly unkillable (thanks Infinitum and Hyperstrike for build examples). I also put the tank ATOs in faster recharging attacks, and even though they aren't AOEs, they proc consistently (especially MoT in Haymaker). https://www.midsreborn.com/builds/download.php?uc=1567&c=765&a=1530&f=HEX&dc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

Exactly why I use this guy (for target cap and foot stomp on autocast): https://www.midsreborn.com/builds/download.php?uc=1567&c=765&a=1530&f=HEX&dc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o follow this guy: https://www.midsreborn.com/builds/download.php?uc=1507&c=712&a=1424&f=HEX&dc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efinitely not two spines/fire brutes, damage wise, but neither one is ever in danger in a +4/8 farm. NUT is constantly knocking them down, and when they're on their back, they can't hit you... Also, not true afk/follow-farming, because I do keep activating Hasten, Rage and Mighty Judgement, on the tank, along with using every inspiration that drops, as soon as it drops. I have also found that the Big Mobs Tunnel farm has very few "hang up" spots and goes very quickly.

I liken AE to the "holodeck", first introduced in the Star Trek animated series in 1974, but made "famous" in ST-TNG, circa 1996.

Your Mid's link is broken, so I can't comment on the build. I can say, if you want an "influence is no object" fire farmer, you can't beat a brute. I have borrowed (ingraciously stolen, actually) ideas for my farmer and he is everything you'd want: https://www.midsreborn.com/builds/download.php?uc=1507&c=712&a=1424&f=HEX&dc=78DA6594CB4F135114C6EFB4532BD04A4B5BCA9B52A440B1434BD1C4578888450C1802892E49C52B4ED214D216A4EE5CB857C018131FA0A03B57F2F091A83B83465D1AFF071F0B372ECC7898EFA46DD2499ADFDC6FCEFBDEDBB1C521C7F3E11B0342A93A9D4A66B3538399F99CB44F4EEB323D2D053DCEC4C4D8C4E0C4C5F38185B816B5935263DA4C8DC99494DAE49C9E96D93A4843F28A4C67A596D065263F756A3E93148EF1D9D994362A936437E33417097DE66A8E5695E66A724ECACB6EF37524BDA067F54B7A4ACFE5DD67E6F4696D3C9FA144C96C8EE2D551EA30FD3E84043F864DDC528588A9A2FD36787089B9C25C064377C0CD3D37C5F4B58A7EC5D40E44997130E02736AB6237C4A6C250951316F39BE528F318A81E07F79D04B7C9DA0A1F8BF52C7977D2B761D03102D6D20C6DA841D87CC8F98972D939975D43ACFDBDCC28581961C6403F3954C087C8759156C5B1AB6E42B392E6E49E9D7D56537371CF2E9E81977B57C9B61AB66A35D7D6E2023BFF09732EDD7FC1B017FA162DDDF0B1B95711BF668DF918AC7D02D6AD3337C057E4E531A76C583C2BA8D7BB04762F8341AAC987F88AAF47201EF333CDCDCFB9FD0BD0DAF2CCEBCC6B60FB22181E40EE2FE45BCF33AF67DF06B66DE018218E1162DFD784463E7B8DF771A69A1E301F822D8F98AB60780DFC48F99AE1AB3473FDDDCC1D422BFAB0B4F2DE04786F0231F00D7D0DB27F90FD3A99DFA8A50E3E771DCFF8DB06D8FB14FCE310A28B6DBADED36C3DAA88BC03636FC1EF14A787FBEB7981BA0F6D32B798DB606487F912FC4AFD693C4FAD1F7BD77B981907637DCC23A093F636CA6738CAE72DA116EEA8D1A416EEFADED230C468A9124167E36AE1A60AA511DA8F4AD2F826286CF7B354EB82F6ABA859940B7C0BDA7042DACFE1C6FE2EDA28CA5D54EEE0531A2EAB305AA6C4CA947899D25FA654B80AFF25C6B08792F14CD683C5F7DD12DDE72DBEDF2BD1FF03C3D8E1E8 If you want a tank, who can survive *any* farming, as well as run all content, I run Inv/SS. He doesn't have nearly the DPS as the broot, but running two accounts, with the tank on follow and foot stomp on auto-cast, I can run the "Big Mobs Tunnel" at +4/8, in about 10-12 minutes...not even really paying attention. https://www.midsreborn.com/builds/download.php?uc=1567&c=764&a=1528&f=HEX&dc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

So many possibilities....but I'll just leave it with "you tell us" 🙂

But, but, we're only unkillable until we're not... I do, however, look forward to the new challenge settings to make things more difficult. As my (internet-only) friend Cassie Knight (vet level 1,400+) always says... she wants to team with NUT, especially on the ITF, because he is, well, virtually unkillable 🙂

Wait, I *still* love tanking on my Inv/SS tank(s) and Inv/SJ and.....

Simply. The. Best. You're the bomb.com, Hyper. Couldn't have said it better.

Not sure what "Beta" was, but I was on the first retail distribution (remember when 40 was the top level and there were only four tank primaries?) and played almost entirely on Champion server. After my very first toon...NRG/NRG Blaster...I just wanna fly, man!...I made one of my favorite toons of all time: Kin/Dark Defender (Nosfera-too). Kin absolutely ruled the day and I made 50 in a heartbeat boosting tanks on the Chimera ninja map...well before farms and such.