Razor Cure

Would DA or FA have T9s added? FA is one of the most squishy sets, out of the box. DA has lotsa tools, but end issues galore. If every other set is getting these toggle tier9s..seems a bit unfair. The end cost would have to be a totally stupid increase after that 60 secs grace period. With all the +recovery out there, with IOs, end red procs and Incarnates, people could really extend their use beyond what is intended. Just copying what you said in the OP.. 'Trying to break it. Trying to get their recovery to a point where they can sustain this new T9 power for far longer than is usually possible. ' IS that a good thing? Is it needed? ED came along and got rid of perma everything, then IOs came and let us re-perma some of those. I am not sure its really fair that someone with every recovery IO, a end red alpha, ageless AND maybe an sb buff bot can basically run their t9 far far longer than anyone else. Also, while I rarely take t9 powers (MoG if any), I for one LIKE the theme of a panic button. Especially in MoGs case, it totally feels right and fits the theme. Would MoG suddenly become a toggle? I'd much prefer the various T9s were looked at, 1 by 1, in view of teh REST of the set. In the same way MoG is utterly amazing in regen, or Icy Bastion is a great tier9 for Ice Armour. Similar to Rad and Bio (with unique mechanics). Making every set have a toggle with identical behaviour (but different stats obviously) just seems as boring as they are currently, but if a different way. Also, just cause I can't resist bringing it up, weren't you recently bemoaning a LACK of diversity in sets? Lets give them all something unique.

Still takes a lot longer than getting epic access. Since that just gets handed out. Make epic access require an unlock.

Yeah those are correct, but you somehow forgot that ALL those sets, aside from Elec, provide a 1000% resistance to kb/ku. So yeah, Grounded is the strongest (aside from stone) kb protection, but the weakest kb resistance. Also there are SO few things in the game that are over mag8 kb, that for all the crowing about having the 2nd highest numbers, it basically is NEVER going to come up. Very few teams below 50 and incarnates will be fighting +4 hero or av classes, and they pretty much have to be, to have any chance of actually kbing a melee. I remember back on RSF, a lvl 50 stone brute COULD get knocked back..but it was so rare, and the magnitude so low, you basically just fell over. At the very least, Grounded should have resistance to kb, when on the grond. Oh you could well be right...but the odds of that 'mistake' being fixed? Since scrappers are a far more popular AT. It would be like if Dark Armour sentinels got KB prot in their powers. All those DA scrappers (at least I know I would) would be totally pissed that a less tanky version of the same powerset suddenly has a pretty important gap covered.

Since you apparently cant read..I will quote myself. You ready? Hmm. Not seeing the bit where I said they have no diversity or change in mechanics. They ARE however quite similar, in that, as I already said..heal, resist, absorb. If me saying they share 3 stats (which they clearly do), is somehow the same as saying thay have no diversity at all, or no difference in mechanics..well..not a lot I can say to that. Other than try to read what I am actually saying, not what you think I am. To bring it up AGAIN..the new sets half that KB prot, and I realllllllllllllllly cant see any new sets coming out, having a kb hole. Cause it sucks. And yes, yes, i know KB IOs exist. It STILL SUCKS. In the MM change threads, people were talking about the MM ato's being a 'tax', because you basically have to have em, to be a good MM. Paraphrasing a bit there. Now, I dont believe the ato's are a tax for MMs, but if they ARE, then fire/dark/nin and to some extent elec armour all have a tax in at least one kb IOs to slot. That's 1 taxxed slot no other armour set has! Just to bring it up again, since the point is just as valid...Stalker Nin vs Other Nin. Oh lookee, it gets kb prot (not resist, but still far better than jack shit). Why? Hmm, is it suddenly the 'theme' of a ninja scrappa/senty (cause you keep banging on about how theme is so important, given the name of grounded) to have kb prot? Go on, I will wait while you try to answer that. Or could it be the new devs went 'oh hang on, we could get rid of the worst aspect of the set?' Back to theme again, how MANY other powers do stuff that makes no sense at all? I mean, stone armour has 2 lots of anti mez and kb, but consider an earthquake or avalanche. They both move and shift earth. So surely even as a huge walking boulder, you should get knocked back at least sometime right? Right? What about SR? Super quick, like the flash. Now I could be wrong, but at least in the TV series, sure, he can dodge basically anything. But when he gets hit..he quite often falls over. Well damn, we better go ahead and change SR to, for theme reasons. Also, if similar set mechanics were SO bad, and varied ones so great..again, why have we only got 3 basic Armour types..Def/Red/Hybrid? Why do only 4 of however many NOT have knockback protection? In case you missed it Nano, the above contains sarcasm.

Sarcasm is hard. I thought it was pretty obvious sarcasm. Just because you CAN fix something, doesnt mean the lack of it in the first place was a great idea (stalker nin vs scrappa/senty nin, anyone?). Awesome point. Lets KEEP adding new sets and mechanics, but not bother with changing OLD sets at all. Again, see time/nature/bio/rad/titanweaps/elec aff all having new mechanics or a huge variety of tools for almost every situation.

Big difference between equalizing sets and just wanting to fix some design relics. If you are gonna cry about diversity, better go ahead and propose some changes to Axe/WM/BS/Kat, which are basically carbon copies of one another. We cant have that! Back to diversity, I find it really funny that the 2 newest armour sets (rad and bio) are quite similar, with heal/absorb/resists AND full kb prot. How much would you like to bet that no new armour sets will come out that dont have kb protection/resistance, even IF it fit the theme?

ET was awful. I actually dont mind the animation..as itself. Just after the change, I was playing my Bane Spider, and doing the special veat story arc. Came up against BaB's (who uses energy melee) and he used that on me. I saw it coming 5 days early, of course, but it was SO cool I jsut stood there. ANd died. lol. It felt totally RIGHT that this super powerful sig hero should have a super fancy attack, that really got across just HOW strong he was. Then..I logged my Em brute (at the time, my fav toon) and after using ET once, I never played it again.

That is still 'stealth' and enough to bug em out. Even so, ALL npc's should have a +perception power, to counter any played stealth.

Interesting idea. Makes me think of Riven mods in Warframe..and how totally damn stupid they are. Getting a good one is a matter of luck, and getting a great one is even more luck, or a huge stack of rerolling (think something similar to enhancement converting). I can totally see custom IOs, converted a huge number of times to get the best stats, going for insane amounts on the MP.

Good ideas. The data backs it all up. I dont really like the one ATO becoming a damage proc though. MM attacks suck (which your ideas kinda redress, but still) and I have NEVER been tempted by any, besides perhaps whip ones, cause they look awesome. But the MM themself should NOT be about doing (much) damage..so a damage proc? I dont know. Love the change for kb prot one, but something else in place of damage.

Yeah. I did an all emp ITF back on Live. Not +4, but WITH everyone IOd. And it totally wasnt 'havoc.' At all. Sure, we were speeding, but havoc? Lol, no. ANd being on a Green Machine team is hardly a measure of how good the set is solo, or on SOs.

I'd argue that for squishy Ats (who are NOT building for uber range def), Clarion is utterly, stupidly awesome. it may not make you unkillable, but never getting mezzed is amazing.

What about more power interactions? Like...you use Absorb Pain on someone, 'empathize' with them as it were, and if they have CM applied to them already, that CM gets shared through the empathic link? That would encourgae people to actually use CM, and with the risk of AP, for the benefit of self mez prot. Granted, that wouldn't do much solo (unless you AP a wisp pet, which would be as annoyign as the elec heal).

And the giant Warhulk!

Let's be honest. 'Havoc' on SOs? I'd LOVE to see an SO, non incarnate emp solo the itf. At +4.

Boost Range does NOT work on aoes. Agreed. I get they tried to make them different, but some sets like time, ice and fire have stupidly awesome powers that are recovery, +heal or absorb, +rech (maybe in another power).

I think that's how Lady Jayne functions in the mission from Monty (in steel). She's an npc, a pet class, and basically sucks..but she also is basically (might be killable) unkillable. I had to afk and 3 ambushes got to her, and her hp didnt move.

Ooh. I thought you meant like the tag, Helper?help me..to let people know you have a good idea about stuffs.

Really? So HOW did people manage it back when it was brand new? I think IOs were also brand new back then, so no way was anywhere near as tricked out as they are now. Oh that's right..you planned a team for it, since it was one of the toughest things in game. Yes. A 'hard' modes that still lets you glitch out one of the toughest baddies in the game. Or totally render him useless, in the case of the crafting station thing. Maybe if it was worth way way less rewards. A hami for doing it solo, with EBs? That would be a joke.

So RSF and STF are meant to be two of the most difficult task forces in the game. Obviously, with incarnates and IOs that difficulty is a lot less, but some teams still struggle (there was a thread about it recently). However..the difficulty of the two is far and away skewed, with STF never fighting more than 4 Avs at once (which are easily seperated) and a final fight of just one AV, Lord Recluse. And he sucks. He sucks because he is EASILY gimped by simply flying over him, or, as I saw tonight, spawning a Crafting Station in front of his tower doors. This KEPT his attention the entire time, and just makes a complete mockery of the battle. Make Lord Reculse great again. Give him a Webgrenade power with a HUGE range, easily spammable on silly melees who think 'tanking' means to hover over him. Remove whatever AI block makes him really really HATE those crafting stations. It is meant to be one of the toughest fights in the game.

I do. If you are respec to literally change two powers, and slot placement, and get a tray FULL of temp powers, wtf is that? Maybe a way to save tray configs, and after a respec, it tries to repeat that as accurately as possible?

You NEED a taunt. An auto hit one. Honestly, this whole thread does make me laugh. I mean, it is one thing for an unprepared team to be doing it and wipe, but now, the chances of having EIGHT people who have zero idea about teh task force all being on the one team? Pretty low. And considering how easy it all is, compared to RSF (still, even with IOs and incarnates)...oh no..4 AVs at once. Oh no..1 AV at once. Oh bigger no, one AV at once that you can FLY over and spaz out. Also, empowerment buffs are your friends. End drain, energy res, and recovery. ALl will help.

True. As soon as it happened, I opened my map and combat log, to see who it was. Then I called em out in league and heal and LFG chat.

The worst I have seen is some complete tool on Torchbearer. Doing a BAF, and right at the end, with Siege and NS down to about 2% health each. Then I get a tp prompt request. I take it, assuming (naturally) that its someone using Incandescence. Instead, it this this fool, trying to tp the entire league 200 foot in the air, outside the BAF itself.

This power really NEEDS to be able to slot the Gaussians Proc. The fact every other version of aim/bu can slot that proc, and have like a 95% chance of it going off is just unfair.