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Possibly. (though I don't think of myself as a marketeer. I just convert and sell my drops. I don't flip anything.) But also keep in mind that using the auction house only moves existing money around, and someone who might be hoarding money is taking it out of play and deflating the economy. Plus the tax, which is more money gone. Inflation, and the large prices that come with it, happen when new money is poured in.

It did impact marketeers. Pretty directly. With less inf generation, the market prices reduced. With reduced market prices, marketeers make less. Before the nerf I considered 2mil a good average sell when I'm converting drops. Now I consider 1.5mil a good average sell. But it's fine because everything is a bit cheaper.

I really appreciate the empathy with which you're making the case, and you're always good to talk with. But I do want to argue this point. The move was one to prevent the markets getting to the same place that the Live market got to. Those were a nightmare. While Homecoming have done a lot of different things to prevent that from happening (converters and merit changes being freakin' amazing), it wouldn't solve the eventual inequality that Live got to of severe haves and have-nots. There was a colossal amount of influence in play, so each unit was worth so, so much less than on Homecoming (I wonder what the exchange rate of Live inf to HC inf is? Do we have enough data to estimate that?). It bounced around in giant chunks and farming really was the only feasible way to sustainably keep up. The market and farming (or any best way to generate money, whatever form that might be) are related in this way - inf generation impacts market prices. Even with the change, it might still eventually, gradually creep that way. But much slower. Maybe half as slow*? There are two reliable ways that I know of right now to generate income: farming and selling on the market. The other ways, like earnings from regular content, seems to belong to a pre-IO and pre-auction house economy. I personally think the game could do with more diverse ways of getting income, or a pass of regular content rewards to bring it beyond, like, issue 8. It would help those who want to stick with SOs or IOs and avoid the market. But this change means that the disparity between those who play that way and those who have a big income is much, much lower. Imagine playing like that on Live and then wanting to break into set IOs - it just wasn't possible. *Has anyone actually calculated what percentage inf generation from farming optimally has changed by? Is it as much as half?

Yes, it's a nerf to farming. Sorry?

Better for farmers wasn't the goal. Levelling the playing field and keeping inflation rates down for all players was. Which has been successful. That required farming to take a hit, but even after that it's still the most effective way in the game to generate inf.

That sounds more like unrealistic expectations? All my characters fund and kit out themselves, and I can do so with barely having to think, let alone farm. Totalled over their whole 1-50 progression I maybe spend like... 30-50 minutes crafting, converting and using the AH to do so.

Yeah, stuff is crazy cheap. You don't need much inf right now.

Yeah, I was literally just thinking how many missions they joined for. You're right, most other metrics would be impossibly unfair. Joining for 5 of 10 missions of an arc would award half the merits at the end of it, but how on earth you'd track this I wouldn't know. Especially if someone joined for like missions 1, 2, 6, 7 and 8. You're right, participation is a better word. But I'd already used the word 'participant' and it felt wobbly to say both in quick succession. This is through the lens of the OP's suggestion. I'm not sure I'd back the corner of recruiting people mid-TF, as it kinda goes against the grain of what they are. But if that were the case, I'm just considering how it could be fair.

It would be good to find a way for the game to dosh out merits on all arcs for all participants based on their individual contribution. Taskforces could share this system. Would arcs and taskforces then become almost indistinct? Is that a bad thing?

Is there any lore reason Koago from the Cavern trial couldn't haunt the Hollows? Maybe even a little upscaled?

A mod would only be a local change. The devs would need to add it to the manifest that your computer installs in an update if they wanted everyone to see the new parts.

#8 is called bone zone or I'm out.

There sure is. If you use the email function on the chat window and send an email to your own global name (the one that starts with @), then you can attach some inf. It will appear in your email straight away. Switch characters and the email will then be there with the inf attached.

A few I was really happy about: Hawkmoth Ego Grasshopper Kadabra Quetzalcoatl Thunderbird (High Five, Enormotron, I'm your Reunion counterpart!) Soothsayer Python Warsuit Sonar Acid Bluebottle Man o' War

This thing of beauty? https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1BFWfOT1ds4J1OJFuAqRX_2B43Cq9rJEF90xFkXyeDsk/edit#gid=0

Furthermore, we can all agree that "Can you hand me a fruit?/What Kind?/Tomato" is somehow incorrect. Things don't have to make sense to make sense.

I think it's possible, but complicated, to imagine the game with the best of both worlds. It's a mistake to think that bringing back some of the challenge, or creating new challenges with those same feelings of adventure and danger, must also mean bringing back some of the grind.

Awesome stuff! It's amazing to see people execute ideas like this. I think it's the future of CoH.

Someone's compass must have been proper broken.

This thread is making me tear up. Oh hang on. That's just someone chopping Onions. Love, Defiant

Then do you consider The South The North?

Actually, I think that was someone making a straw man argument at some point and it got out of hand.

I think you're a bit lost, friend.

You'll never be allowed in secret underground Britain.

I like this thread more than the last thread. Our collective pet peeve seems to be that we're a bit hungry.