Tutorials

[Wild Claw]

This was mentioned in a thread about regen:

 

26 minutes ago, America's Angel said:

Don't make changes to the game that can be fixed by a tutorial. lol

 

And that sparked a thought.

 

Outbreak, Breakout, and the Galaxy tutorials exist... that's about all I can say about them. The Twinshot and Graves tutorials are kinda pointless as any character high enough level to trigger them is already past the point of needing a tutorial on the things they cover. And then there's the AE 'tutorial' which is more a walking simulator as you don't actually *do* anything, and the Invention tutorial... which is fine, if boring the 1000th time through it.

 

What other things *need* tutorials? 

 

And the actual sparked thought: Are there any tutorials that the expert players here could put together themselves in AE and present to the Devs as fait accompli? I have no idea how you would do that for a powerset like Regen, but I'm not as creative as others. 🙂

[Snarky]

1 hour ago, Wild Claw said:

This was mentioned in a thread about regen:

 

 

And that sparked a thought.

 

Outbreak, Breakout, and the Galaxy tutorials exist... that's about all I can say about them. The Twinshot and Graves tutorials are kinda pointless as any character high enough level to trigger them is already past the point of needing a tutorial on the things they cover. And then there's the AE 'tutorial' which is more a walking simulator as you don't actually *do* anything, and the Invention tutorial... which is fine, if boring the 1000th time through it.

 

What other things *need* tutorials? 

 

And the actual sparked thought: Are there any tutorials that the expert players here could put together themselves in AE and present to the Devs as fait accompli? I have no idea how you would do that for a powerset like Regen, but I'm not as creative as others. 🙂

need a tutorial on how to use a lot of the "big" powers effectively.  Do not immobilize mobs before the tank gathers them.  Do not Fold Space Mobs away from DoT patches

 

[Clave Dark 5]

Incarnates need a tutorial. 

 

I should spell that out in big red flashing letters or something, too.  That was like handing us the keys to a Tardis without a users' manual.  Hell, I still have questions.  And I also still lose interest with equipping a toon in that system pas a few branches up the trees partly because of that.

[Techwright]

I'm not sure enhancements have a starter tutorial.  You get a bit of one with the crafted enhancements at the Steel Canyon university down the line, but a shiny new user will be offered dual and now single origin enhancements at the starter vendors almost immediately, and it might help that they understand both of them as well as the origin variables, so that they don't buy mutant origins and pass them by mail to their tech alt, or to their equally shiny new buddy in a tech avatar.

 

I'd also think a tutorial laying out exactly what items a new character should acquire from a P2W vendor would help.  While the P2W vendor makes a few comments, their more along the lines of a sales pitch to use the service, rather than a good introduction as to what would benefit a new player, and seeing as the vendor has quite a list of goods, I can see it as confusing or overwhelming.

[Saikochoro]

A market + converter tutorial would be good to add to the game. 

[Greycat]

The twinshot "tutorial" is just ... annoying.  I don't normally complain about having to run around for missions, but for some reason this one just *irks* me.

 

Honestly, I'm an altaholic. It'd be nice if she were just as optional (go up to her and click if you want to run it) as the old starter missions if there's any other characters on an account.

[wjrasmussen]

11 minutes ago, Greycat said:

The twinshot "tutorial" is just ... annoying.  I don't normally complain about having to run around for missions, but for some reason this one just *irks* me.

 

Honestly, I'm an altaholic. It'd be nice if she were just as optional (go up to her and click if you want to run it) as the old starter missions if there's any other characters on an account.

Same here

[merrypessimist]

1 hour ago, Greycat said:

The twinshot "tutorial" is just ... annoying.  I don't normally complain about having to run around for missions, but for some reason this one just *irks* me.

 

 

I expect for most of us who feel this way it's because her arc and Graves' redside are written assuming both the character and the player are complete and total idiots.

[Rishidian]

20 hours ago, merrypessimist said:

 

I expect for most of us who feel this way it's because her arc and Graves' redside are written assuming both the character and the player are complete and total idiots.

Some are Complete Idiots.

Some are Total Idiots.

Complete AND total Idiots?  Now that's a rare find and should be cherished.

--We are a rare breed.

[Shred Monkey]

On 4/4/2021 at 2:03 AM, Clave Dark 5 said:

Incarnates need a tutorial. 

 

I should spell that out in big red flashing letters or something, too.  That was like handing us the keys to a Tardis without a users' manual.  Hell, I still have questions.  And I also still lose interest with equipping a toon in that system pas a few branches up the trees partly because of that.

 

Actually, once you understand it, the incarnate system is actually pretty simple (ignore shards and shard-side components).  The problem is that you'd never know it's simple from looking at the game interface.   

 

[Nemu]

Player x joins a team

 

"Hi where to?"

 

That needs a tutorial. Too many people have no clue how to use the team window.

[Snarky]

On 4/14/2021 at 6:04 PM, Nemu said:

Player x joins a team

 

"Hi where to?"

 

That needs a tutorial. Too many people have no clue how to use the team window.

What is a team window?

[Clave Dark 5]

On 4/14/2021 at 2:39 PM, Shred Monkey said:

 

Actually, once you understand it, the incarnate system is actually pretty simple (ignore shards and shard-side components).  The problem is that you'd never know it's simple from looking at the game interface.   

 

I think I've identified the problem here.  😀

[Shred Monkey]

1 hour ago, Clave Dark 5 said:

I think I've identified the problem here.  😀

 

Here's the 2 things that, once I understood them, opened up my eyes to everything else.  I'm intentionally leaving out information for simplification, but this will get you everything you need.  I hope this helps you or anyone else who finds the interface confusing.

 

#1 - All the recipes follow this pattern:

 

#2 - These 4 options are where you go to create the salvage you're missing.

 

For common salvage: 20 Threads

 

For uncommon salvage: 60 Threads

 

For rare salvage: 8 Empyrean Merits

 

For very rare salvage: 30 Empyrean Merits

 

Threads are random drops from level 50+ enemies, so just play the game killing things over level 50.  To get Empyrean Merits, level up.  You get 20 Emp merits every 3rd veteran level. The rewards decrease as you level up but you'll have everything built before that happens.

 

 

Edited April 18, 2021 by Shred Monkey

[Clave Dark 5]

That's a good start towards a tutorial, yes. 

 

Why does it also tell me when I need to make a tier 2 3 or 4  that I also need the lower stages below the one?  Is it lying?

[Shred Monkey]

1 hour ago, Clave Dark 5 said:

That's a good start towards a tutorial, yes. 

 

Why does it also tell me when I need to make a tier 2 3 or 4  that I also need the lower stages below the one?  Is it lying?

Making the tier 2 slot consumes the tier 1 slot as part of the recipe.   Making the tier 3 slot consumes the tier 2.   Making a tier 4 slot consumes two tier 3 slots.

 

 

[Col. Kernel]

On 4/3/2021 at 3:17 PM, Wild Claw said:

This was mentioned in a thread about regen:

 

 

And that sparked a thought.

 

Outbreak, Breakout, and the Galaxy tutorials exist... that's about all I can say about them. The Twinshot and Graves tutorials are kinda pointless as any character high enough level to trigger them is already past the point of needing a tutorial on the things they cover. And then there's the AE 'tutorial' which is more a walking simulator as you don't actually *do* anything, and the Invention tutorial... which is fine, if boring the 1000th time through it.

 

What other things *need* tutorials? 

 

And the actual sparked thought: Are there any tutorials that the expert players here could put together themselves in AE and present to the Devs as fait accompli? I have no idea how you would do that for a powerset like Regen, but I'm not as creative as others. 🙂

I recall most of the Incarnate stuff, but that could probably use a tutorial for late comers and complete newbies to our beloved City.

 

Edit:  And I see that someone has put up text and graphics describing a simplified version of the process.  I don't know if something like that could be created in AE or not (which is what was asked and I was replying to initially.

Edited April 18, 2021 by Col. Kernel
Belated update

[Clave Dark 5]

10 hours ago, Shred Monkey said:

Making the tier 2 slot consumes the tier 1 slot as part of the recipe.   Making the tier 3 slot consumes the tier 2.   Making a tier 4 slot consumes two tier 3 slots.

"So yes, you'll have to expend resources to rebuild these for the next one."

 

Nice that that's explained fully to me now.  Not that the game ever gave that to me.  The few times I've done this I kept thinking "is this right?  Maybe I don't understand this right and I'm wasting resources?  Because this really seems wasteful."

Edited April 19, 2021 by Clave Dark 5

[Darmian]

On 4/4/2021 at 10:50 PM, Greycat said:

The twinshot "tutorial" is just ... annoying.  I don't normally complain about having to run around for missions, but for some reason this one just *irks* me.

If it could be scaled lower perhaps?  It and Graves? So that you do it when you would actually be learning this stuff?  OR....Both have the "tutorial" bits cut out of them and have them as just arcs at that level.

[Darmian]

I won't have a WORD said against the Galaxy Tutorial.  Blue Spectrum is a true hero, damn it!  (Also, Shivan shards causing time fractures because there's Sister Psyche and yet...said this before...when I get of the chopper I find she's been dead for AGES.  Penny who now?)

 

Hmm.  Shivan shards causing time fractures could be meta'd to hand wave away the "gap".

[Take One]

23 hours ago, Shred Monkey said:

 

Here's the 2 things that, once I understood them, opened up my eyes to everything else.  I'm intentionally leaving out information for simplification, but this will get you everything you need.  I hope this helps you or anyone else who finds the interface confusing.

 

 

I wish there were recipes added so we could just pay threads and empyrean merits straight up without having to convert them, because that's a completely unnecessary step nowadays.