BrandX Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 Does this IO work in multiple powers now, or still just good in one power? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InvaderStych Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 It should work in multiples now. Briefly fiddled with it early on in the beta. You see a mousetrap? I see free cheese and a f$%^ing challenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandX Posted May 3, 2021 Author Share Posted May 3, 2021 1 hour ago, InvaderStych said: It should work in multiples now. Briefly fiddled with it early on in the beta. So, the next question would be, is it worthwhile to put multiple in a build? I was thinking it could just help Regeneration more with more healing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hew Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 (edited) I would put multiples in something like an elec assault/elec blast set or whatever the elec blast is for sentinels. edit: cause users of those powers tend to be squishy, and powertransfer has good 2 and 3 slot bonuses (+huge end), and gets acc, dam, rech, endmod, so you can shove it into something like ball lighting for 3 slot annil/3 slot pt... Edited May 3, 2021 by Hew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tidge Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 1 hour ago, BrandX said: So, the next question would be, is it worthwhile to put multiple in a build? I was thinking it could just help Regeneration more with more healing. The only build of mine (please consider that I don't have a full spectrum of ATs) for which I considered having multiples was with my Invulnerable Tank. I figured that for certain content, damage would be getting through and that the Max HP and the resistances might provide enough extra buffer during those periods where Dull Pain wasn't in play (because it hadn't recharged after previously clicking it, or BUTTON MASH MODE ENGAGED) or an Incarnate heal wasn't available. I ended up NOT moving a slot to where I could leverage a second instance, but I can understand similar math for high HP characters could motivate doubling up on the piece. I have the piece (singular) on some far squishier characters, and I am not adding more. As it is: it is just a random bit of healing that helps when I've taken some lumps and reconsidered my immediate play style (or skipping towards the next spawn). For me it's the final layer behind Panacea +HP/+End, Preventive Medicine %Absorb, and Scaling Damage Resistance. My (somewhat limited) roster of characters can typically find a better use for the slot. I like reading others' opinions however! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troo Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 1 hour ago, BrandX said: So, the next question would be, is it worthwhile to put multiple in a build? I was thinking it could just help Regeneration more with more healing. Yes to some extent. These can actually have a greater impact than some uniques. 1 1 "Homecoming is not perfect but it is still better than the alternative.. at least so far" - Unknown (Wise words Unknown!) Si vis pacem, para bellum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tidge Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 (edited) Thanks for the cross-link @Troo I should note that for me: I almost never chase +Regeneration, either because (mostly because it hits the point of diminishing returns too soon for my taste, a little because of my opinion that needing +Regeneration is a function of play style choices that come from 'spending' Health) so a semi-regular +HP bonus is always preferred. YMMV. Edited May 3, 2021 by tidge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bopper Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 7 minutes ago, tidge said: Thanks for the cross-link @Troo I should note that for me: I almost never chase +Regeneration, either because (mostly because it hits the point of diminishing returns too soon for my taste, a little because of my opinion that needing +Regeneration is a function of play style choices that come from 'spending' Health) so a semi-regular +HP bonus is always preferred. YMMV. There is no diminishing returns with regeneration. Adding X% regeneration always translates to adding Y hit points per second (HPS). It's completely linear. Many folks probably interpret the percent improvement as diminishing returns, which I could understand. If your base is 100% regen (which comes with Y HPS), and you add another 100%, your total HPS doubled. But now adding another 100% (go from 200% to 300%) will have your HPS 50% higher than what it was previously (300/200=1.50). But you're still triple the HPS you were at base. There is also a survivability component to this that mirrors Defense/Resistance as they approach their caps, where the closer you are to the cap, your survivability increases exponentially (not really, but people can picture an exponential graph better than an inverse graph where the denominator approaches 0). Anyways, as your HPS approaches the incoming DPS from attacks, your survivability will grow rapidly. For example, let's say you're taking 100 DPS from an attack and your HPS is 20, then your survival time will be dictated by that net 80 DPS you're taking. Now let's say your regen is 60 HPS, your survival time just doubled as your net is now halved to 40 DPS. Add another 20 HPS and it's doubled again. And as you approach 100 HPS your survival time will approach infinity. PPM Information Guide Survivability Tool Interface DoT Procs Guide Time Manipulation Guide Bopper Builds +HP/+Regen Proc Cheat Sheet Super Pack Drop Percentages Recharge Guide Base Empowerment: Temp Powers Bopper's Tools & Formulas Mids' Reborn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tidge Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 23 minutes ago, Bopper said: There is also a survivability component to this that mirrors Defense/Resistance as they approach their caps, where the closer you are to the cap, your survivability increases exponentially (not really, but people can picture an exponential graph better than an inverse graph where the denominator approaches 0). Yeah I get it, especially the "your taking 50% less damage by going from 90% resistance to 95% resistance" (for example)... but sometimes the amount of survavibility is already 'enough' such that a build can get better returns by investing the slot in something else. That is past my point of diminishing returns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenosone Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 Why is this a stackable but synapse shock extra run speed(its just almost 2mph) not? (Theres a possibility i have the name wrong but its an end mod set). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galaxy Brain Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 Hue hue hue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arcane Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 21 minutes ago, Galaxy Brain said: Hue hue hue Interested to try this 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmalltalkJava Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 Does this proc fire if it is place into a slot on Stamina? Baseline MM Henchmen Defenses and Resist Values MM - Beast Pets - Pet Attack usage and some quick proc testing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psyonico Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 yes, it will have a chance to fire once every 10 seconds. What this team needs is more Defenders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
America's Angel Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 Scrapper - 66.93 = 3.3465 HPS per PT Proc Brute - 74.96 = 3.748 HPS per PT Proc So if you have four of them on a regen brute, you're looking at an extra 14.992 HPS. My Stuff: Fightclub PvP Discord (Melee PvP tournaments, builds, and beta testing) Influence Farming Guide (General guide to farming, with maps and builds) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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