Developer Cobalt Arachne Posted October 4, 2021 Developer Share Posted October 4, 2021 On 10/3/2021 at 11:16 AM, GM Impervium said: Though there might end up being an exception... Before anyone worries about this, what's being referred to is a new badge that's being added in Page 3 for completing the original un-nerfed version of Lord Recluse's Strike Force that's being added to Ouroboros with Incarnates disabled for the 'old school challenge'. 4 5 1 3 Love this game and its community? Want to give back? Volunteer as a Game Master! Help make Homecoming the best it can be! Writer of the Patch Notes Red side, best side! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linea Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 On 9/30/2021 at 2:18 PM, Cobalt Arachne said: It's a little different than the difficulty options we have currently... We're re-writing the entire challenge settings code to accommodate our future plans. I have to say I think this is the way to handle things, even if it is a bit more difficult to implement. 👍 2 AE 801 (link) is a variety of missions for fun and challenge, and is designed for a team of 5+ Incarnates. Just search '801' in AE. 801 Difficulty Varies: 801.0 Easy, ..., 801.2 Standard*, ..., 801.5 Moderate**, ..., 801.6 Hard***, ..., 801.7 Four Star****, ... 801.F Death. I may be AFK IRL, But CoH is my Forever Home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apparition Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 29 minutes ago, Cobalt Arachne said: Before anyone worries about this, what's being referred to is a new badge that's being added in Page 3 for completing the original un-nerfed version of Lord Recluse's Strike Force that's being added to Ouroboros with Incarnates disabled for the 'old school challenge'. Wee! Statesman! Massacring the big lug was the one thing I really missed from live. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0th Power Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 (edited) Excited for Page 3! Edited October 4, 2021 by 0th Power 1 I am Pro-Human I invented Combat Teleport I invented K'ong (More proof here too) Battle Rifle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreadShinobi Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 2 hours ago, Cobalt Arachne said: Before anyone worries about this, what's being referred to is a new badge that's being added in Page 3 for completing the original un-nerfed version of Lord Recluse's Strike Force that's being added to Ouroboros with Incarnates disabled for the 'old school challenge'. YAAAASSS. All is finally right in the world. 1 Currently on fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skoryy Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 7 hours ago, Cobalt Arachne said: Before anyone worries about this, what's being referred to is a new badge that's being added in Page 3 for completing the original un-nerfed version of Lord Recluse's Strike Force that's being added to Ouroboros with Incarnates disabled for the 'old school challenge'. Will there also be an option for this in Statesman's Task Force? Everlasting's Actionette Also Wolfhound, Starwave, Blue Gale, Relativity Rabbit, and many more! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Developer Cobalt Arachne Posted October 4, 2021 Developer Share Posted October 4, 2021 42 minutes ago, skoryy said: Will there also be an option for this in Statesman's Task Force? Hmmm, possible, but there would be less reason to do it there. Between Statesman and Miss Liberty I don't think the mission content actually changed at all? The old version of the Lord Recluse Strike Force is quite different from the version currently offered in-game. The LRSF had numerous nerfs over time, the Hero AV's levels were dropped several times, some Hero AV's were removed, and some were not replaced. The final map is also different between the two. 2 1 3 Love this game and its community? Want to give back? Volunteer as a Game Master! Help make Homecoming the best it can be! Writer of the Patch Notes Red side, best side! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apparition Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Cobalt Arachne said: Hmmm, possible, but there would be less reason to do it there. Between Statesman and Miss Liberty I don't think the mission content actually changed at all? The old version of the Lord Recluse Strike Force is quite different from the version currently offered in-game. The LRSF had numerous nerfs over time, the Hero AV's levels were dropped several times, some Hero AV's were removed, and some were not replaced. The final map is also different between the two. Yeah, the only changes the MLTF had was in name and starting contact. Everything else is the same. LRSF on the other hand had numerous nerfs. Edited October 4, 2021 by Apparition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheZag Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 (edited) Hard mode - call it 'Challenge Mode' instead. Edit : or 'Incarnate Challenge Mode' as i realize a setting called challenge mode under challenge settings might be slightly confusing as to what it does. Edited October 5, 2021 by TheZag 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreadShinobi Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 38 minutes ago, TheZag said: Hard mode - call it 'Challenge Mode' instead. Edit : or 'Incarnate Challenge Mode' as i realize a setting called challenge mode under challenge settings might be slightly confusing as to what it does. I like 'prepare to kiss the dirt mode' 1 Currently on fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsuko Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 5 1 Vous souhaitez rejoindre un canal de discussion 100% Français ? Vous souhaitez faire des TF Chill ou 4 étoiles avec des Francophones de tout pays ? Vous souhaitez avoir accès à la meilleure base de données avec les meilleurs builds et ressources en Français ? "La lune Bleue" est le canal de discussion qu'il vous faut ! N'attendez plus ! Contactez nous en jeu, ou notre Discord https://discord.gg/GwTeNMrz6z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mezmera Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 (edited) 13 hours ago, Cobalt Arachne said: Before anyone worries about this, what's being referred to is a new badge that's being added in Page 3 for completing the original un-nerfed version of Lord Recluse's Strike Force that's being added to Ouroboros with Incarnates disabled for the 'old school challenge'. Well if it were to truly be considered worthy of a badge called 'old school challenge' shouldn't you be limiting it to villain AT only runs? You had to have a really sturdy built brute to make it through that, having a proper tank is cheating the experience. Edited October 5, 2021 by Mezmera 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wavicle Posted October 5, 2021 Author Share Posted October 5, 2021 On 10/3/2021 at 8:16 AM, GM Impervium said: As an aside, the current plan is, generally, to make Incarnate buffs meaningful in content going forward, not roll stuff back or take anything away. Though there might end up being an exception... Does this mean that the Incarnate Shifts (from Lore and Destiny) will apply in the Hard Mode content? Wavicle's Guide To What Really Matters: What Needs To Be Done On Every Toon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruin Mage Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 Lore/Destiny might be needed, even, to survive/handle "Hard Mode" content. Though we'll see how true that is when it is ready. alright buddy, it's time to shit yourselfcasts earthquake, activates dispersion bubble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nihilii Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 On 10/1/2021 at 7:13 AM, macskull said: I think some other examples of "things getting tweaked or rolled back" include some Dark Melee and Martial Arts changes *cries in Armageddon+Fury procced AoE Eagle's Claw* The pain was almost gone, WHY'D YOU HAVE TO REMIND ME 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lead Game Master GM Impervium Posted October 5, 2021 Lead Game Master Share Posted October 5, 2021 4 hours ago, Wavicle said: Does this mean that the Incarnate Shifts (from Lore and Destiny) will apply in the Hard Mode content? I don't believe so, as there's both lore and mechanical distinctions between Incarnate content and Hard Mode content. 1 3 2 GM ImperviumHomecoming FAQ; Need a hand? File a Support Ticket! Want to lend a hand? Apply to be a GM! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Industrious1 Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 Hopefully hard mode will allow 8 person mobs to have a bit of juice left after a Fire/Em blaster drops their full rotation on them. In many instances it seems like the rest of the team is relegated to clean up duty after a half-decent blaster joins the squad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsuko Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 2 hours ago, Industrious1 said: Hopefully hard mode will allow 8 person mobs to have a bit of juice left after a Fire/Em blaster drops their full rotation on them. In many instances it seems like the rest of the team is relegated to clean up duty after a half-decent blaster joins the squad. 1 1 3 Vous souhaitez rejoindre un canal de discussion 100% Français ? Vous souhaitez faire des TF Chill ou 4 étoiles avec des Francophones de tout pays ? Vous souhaitez avoir accès à la meilleure base de données avec les meilleurs builds et ressources en Français ? "La lune Bleue" est le canal de discussion qu'il vous faut ! N'attendez plus ! Contactez nous en jeu, ou notre Discord https://discord.gg/GwTeNMrz6z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wavicle Posted October 5, 2021 Author Share Posted October 5, 2021 6 hours ago, Industrious1 said: Hopefully hard mode will allow 8 person mobs to have a bit of juice left after a Fire/Em blaster drops their full rotation on them. In many instances it seems like the rest of the team is relegated to clean up duty after a half-decent blaster joins the squad. I mean, I ALSO think Blast set t9s should be nerfed (for Blasters especially, but possibly also for Defenders and Corruptors), probably leave the damage as is but increase the cooldown to be similar to Controller AoE Holds. But I figured one thread at a time. 2 4 Wavicle's Guide To What Really Matters: What Needs To Be Done On Every Toon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arcane Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 35 minutes ago, Wavicle said: I mean, I ALSO think Blast set t9s should be nerfed (for Blasters especially, but possibly also for Defenders and Corruptors), probably leave the damage as is but increase the cooldown to be similar to Controller AoE Holds. But I figured one thread at a time. That would be far too reasonable for some of the folks on this subforum 🙂 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsuko Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 1 hour ago, Wavicle said: I mean, I ALSO think Blast set t9s should be nerfed (for Blasters especially, but possibly also for Defenders and Corruptors), probably leave the damage as is but increase the cooldown to be similar to Controller AoE Holds. But I figured one thread at a time. How about giving them some very very big targets to blast, so they will be most welcomed in teams and not see as a game breaker. Nerf should be the last thing to do to solve an issue. Nerfing is like violence, it is the best proof of incompetence. 1 1 1 3 Vous souhaitez rejoindre un canal de discussion 100% Français ? Vous souhaitez faire des TF Chill ou 4 étoiles avec des Francophones de tout pays ? Vous souhaitez avoir accès à la meilleure base de données avec les meilleurs builds et ressources en Français ? "La lune Bleue" est le canal de discussion qu'il vous faut ! N'attendez plus ! Contactez nous en jeu, ou notre Discord https://discord.gg/GwTeNMrz6z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wavicle Posted October 5, 2021 Author Share Posted October 5, 2021 The i24 Blaster buffs were never on Live. Development ceased while they were still in Beta. It was too much. This belief that nerfs are never called for is simply false. 1 Wavicle's Guide To What Really Matters: What Needs To Be Done On Every Toon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsuko Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 4 minutes ago, Wavicle said: The i24 Blaster buffs were never on Live. Development ceased while they were still in Beta. It was too much. This belief that nerfs are never called for is simply false. Great for them, we dont play whatever "live". "Live" is the past, they destroyed our home for profit, they formated our home as a mobile game for profit. It's time for people to accept we have 2 major updates (soon 3) and 2 years of developement away from "live". This is Homecoming. Let's move on. 1 2 Vous souhaitez rejoindre un canal de discussion 100% Français ? Vous souhaitez faire des TF Chill ou 4 étoiles avec des Francophones de tout pays ? Vous souhaitez avoir accès à la meilleure base de données avec les meilleurs builds et ressources en Français ? "La lune Bleue" est le canal de discussion qu'il vous faut ! N'attendez plus ! Contactez nous en jeu, ou notre Discord https://discord.gg/GwTeNMrz6z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wavicle Posted October 5, 2021 Author Share Posted October 5, 2021 Literally all of my suggestions stem from the idea that the old devs messed up and the HC devs know better. You don't have to tell me. None of my suggestions are "make it like it was on Live". 1 1 Wavicle's Guide To What Really Matters: What Needs To Be Done On Every Toon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arcane Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 14 minutes ago, Tsuko said: Nerfing is like violence, it is the best proof of incompetence. Lolwut. A game with zero nerfs would innately be out of control broken. That’s why nerfs exist, not because designers are fun nazis and you’re the one true genius. 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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