Shenanigunner Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 Just now, arcane said: You just deleted the surrounding context that acknowledges the issues with that statement. Bit obvious don’t you think. It seems to neatly sum up the entire faction's attitude that unlimited builds at no cost should be the whole of the law. But maybe I misunderstood. UPDATED: v4.15 Technical Guide (post 27p7)... 154 pages of comprehensive and validated info on on the nuts and bolts!ALSO: GABS Bindfile · WindowScaler · Teleport Guide · and City of Zeroes all at www.Shenanigunner.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arcane Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, Shenanigunner said: It seems to neatly sum up the entire faction's attitude that unlimited builds at no cost should be the whole of the law. But maybe I misunderstood. I thought you were pointing out the irony in my statement (implying this game has any notable obstacles left to begin with). But now it sounds like you’re just agreeing with me? Clarity, brotato Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shenanigunner Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 I meant it should be framed and hung on the wall with a sticky. 🙂 UPDATED: v4.15 Technical Guide (post 27p7)... 154 pages of comprehensive and validated info on on the nuts and bolts!ALSO: GABS Bindfile · WindowScaler · Teleport Guide · and City of Zeroes all at www.Shenanigunner.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troo Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 1 hour ago, Aurora_Girl said: The community and the devs and the GMs have gone. Over. This. Before. As Oklahoman wisely and succinctly showed you. It's a non-suggestion for insta-50s for a myriad of reasons. Just to be clear, you don't speak for me or for homecoming or for a lot of people. Sure I don't agree with a free level 50 token. But do I think there could be something, maybe. I'm not gonna stifle ideas or try to shout folks down. You get your o p i n i o n. I get mine, other folks get theirs. Let em toss ideas around. It would be great if you'd stop trying to bully people who don't agree with you. ( especially if we are stoopid and maybe not as well informed ) just a sincere request. "Homecoming is not perfect but it is still better than the alternative.. at least so far" - Unknown (Wise words Unknown!) Si vis pacem, para bellum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arcane Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 4 minutes ago, Troo said: It would be great if you'd stop trying to bully people who don't agree with you. ( especially if we are stoopid and maybe not as well informed ) just a sincere request. Oh please. She’s brash but incendiary accusations of ill intent/motive/etc like this are the wrong direction and no less aimed at stifling people than anything else. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeregrineFalcon Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 40 minutes ago, arcane said: Oh please. She’s brash but incendiary accusations of ill intent/motive/etc like this are the wrong direction and no less aimed at stifling people than anything else. True. But since reporting people to the mods hasn't gone their way lately they have no choice but to try to shame people by accusing them of "gatekeeping" and "white knighting" and "speaking for everyone" and etc etc etc. They can't just argue their argument on the merits and leave it at that. They have to bully and/or shame people into agreeing with them, or else. Mostly because they haven't realized yet that this isn't Twitter. 1 Being constantly offended doesn't mean you're right, it means you're too narcissistic to tolerate opinions different than your own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parabola Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 Why is this thread still alive? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurora_Girl Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 1 hour ago, PeregrineFalcon said: True. But since reporting people to the mods hasn't gone their way lately they have no choice but to try to shame people by accusing them of "gatekeeping" and "white knighting" and "speaking for everyone" and etc etc etc. They can't just argue their argument on the merits and leave it at that. They have to bully and/or shame people into agreeing with them, or else. Mostly because they haven't realized yet that this isn't Twitter. Who are you talking about here? All the indefinite pronouns are confusing as all hell. Oh and for the record for those who don't know or are painting your responses differently because you assume I'm a woman...I'm not. So there's that. 😒 @Aurora Girl - Excelsior - BSOD Aurora Girl (Blaster)- Energy/Atomic, Queen of Faceplants and former Mayor of Pinnacle Server Straye (Brute)- Savage/SR, Survivor of +4 ITF Nictus Crystals and Bobcat's Bane Aurora Snow (Corruptor) - Ice/Cold, AV Humiliator Terraflux (Controller) - Earth/Rad, Bass Exploder Spynerette (Arachnos Soldier) - Night Widow, Super Spy of Sneakiness and Stabbing Snowberrie (Tank) - Ice/Spines, Disco Ball and Lady of Winter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greycat Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 28 minutes ago, Parabola said: Why is this thread still alive? Someone keeps shocking it with the electrodes. 1 Kheldian Lore and Backstory Guide 2.0: HC edition Out to EAT : A look at Epic ATs - what is, could have been, and never was Want 20 merits? Got a couple of minutes? Mini guide to the Combat Attributes window Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shenanigunner Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 7 minutes ago, Greycat said: Someone keeps shocking it with the electrodes. ZomBcare? UPDATED: v4.15 Technical Guide (post 27p7)... 154 pages of comprehensive and validated info on on the nuts and bolts!ALSO: GABS Bindfile · WindowScaler · Teleport Guide · and City of Zeroes all at www.Shenanigunner.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troo Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 3 hours ago, arcane said: Oh please. She’s brash but incendiary accusations of ill intent/motive/etc I'll agree to disagree. ( and I am being as polite as I can on the subject ) 1 hour ago, Parabola said: Why is this thread still alive? Likely, some folks are new and haven't participated in previous discussions. Some folks would really like something, and some folks wanna bash on those folks.. "Homecoming is not perfect but it is still better than the alternative.. at least so far" - Unknown (Wise words Unknown!) Si vis pacem, para bellum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excraft Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 7 hours ago, Aurora_Girl said: Are you just actively turning off reading comprehension or something? The community and the devs and the GMs have gone. Over. This. Before. As Oklahoman wisely and succinctly showed you. It's a non-suggestion for insta-50s for a myriad of reasons. To my knowledge, there is no Dev post saying this topic is closed or is forbidden to discuss. It's a non-suggestion for you and there's nothing wrong with that, just don't try and say it's that for everyone because it definitely isn't. 5 hours ago, Troo said: Just to be clear, you don't speak for me or for homecoming or for a lot of people. ^ What @Troo said. Definitely isn't speaking for me neither. 5 hours ago, Troo said: Sure I don't agree with a free level 50 token. But do I think there could be something, maybe. I don't think it's really needed either, but I do agree there are a couple of ideas about it being some kind of an unlock instead of a straight inf cost are interesting and worth discussion. 5 hours ago, Troo said: I'm not gonna stifle ideas or try to shout folks down. You get your o p i n i o n. I get mine, other folks get theirs. Let em toss ideas around. It would be great if you'd stop trying to bully people who don't agree with you. ( especially if we are stoopid and maybe not as well informed ) just a sincere request. Sadly, more and more this is what's happening on these forums and the forum mods here really don't seem to care or want to do anything about it. There's a select few forumites (yes they do whiteknight and gatekeep regularly) who've taken it upon themselves to speak for everyone and/or for the Devs. Anyone who disagrees with their point of view has to be shouted down and bullied. It's a sad thing to see really. It doesn't foster any sense of community at all. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruin Mage Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 I mean, I don't believe I've seen anything get a dev response in here in general. The Suggestions & Feedback forum is the red-headed stepchild. On the hand of 'speak for everyone and/or the devs', it's really down to wording and how one comes off. I'm sure (I could be wrong!) it's not intended, but it happens. Anyway, /jranger? /jranger. 1 2 alright buddy, it's time to shit yourselfcasts earthquake, activates dispersion bubble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parabola Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 8 hours ago, Troo said: Likely, some folks are new and haven't participated in previous discussions. Some folks would really like something, and some folks wanna bash on those folks.. Oh I totally agree that these discussions should be encouraged regardless of whether they've been had before. They seem to quickly reach a point where side arguments and semi personal (or overtly personal) attacks replace any useful conversation directly related to the op though. My comment really was that this thread seems to have reached that point and I was surprised it was still going. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excraft Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 11 hours ago, Shadeknight said: I mean, I don't believe I've seen anything get a dev response in here in general. There's a Dev response in this very thread - one that makes perfect sense btw... 11 hours ago, Shadeknight said: On the hand of 'speak for everyone and/or the devs', it's really down to wording and how one comes off. I'm sure (I could be wrong!) it's not intended, but it happens. Sure that can happen, however the same handful of people keep doing it despite being called out and questioned on it repeatedly. Maybe it's just me, but that speaks to intent other than honest mistakes. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parabola Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 12 hours ago, Shadeknight said: I mean, I don't believe I've seen anything get a dev response in here in general. The Suggestions & Feedback forum is the red-headed stepchild. The devs not posting here doesn't mean they don't read the suggestions though, and I can understand why they might be reluctant to comment. Any 'I like this idea' comment would be taken by some as a promise that everything else would be dropped while they worked on this new idea, and negative comments have to be handled carefully to avoid unnecessary drama. I'm sure the devs would love to shoot the breeze on here and kick ideas around but they are speaking from the position of authority and that means they can't really do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruin Mage Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 Cool, I stand corrected. Thanks, Ex. alright buddy, it's time to shit yourselfcasts earthquake, activates dispersion bubble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightningDrone Posted December 6, 2021 Author Share Posted December 6, 2021 (edited) Level 50 Boost Token... Isn't available to brand new players. Maybe its like a T3/T4 incarnate recipe that involves threads/shards/purple incarnate salvage/merits/influence? Problem is how would that be transferrable when incarnate components are soulbound and not account bound? Trade some incarnate materials to Luna in Ouroboros to unlock a Lvl 50 Boost Token? Full Reroll Retcon... Is available to everyone. At almost any level. Let players play the character they want to play. Edited December 7, 2021 by LightningDrone 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golstat2003 Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 (edited) Sooooo the bottom line is some one with authority already said this is likely to NOT happen on Homecoming. But folks are still arguing about it. Not convicting the ones in charge or anyone else. So a typcial Thursday. good to know. Edited December 9, 2021 by golstat2003 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wavicle Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 On 12/1/2021 at 11:21 AM, LightningDrone said: P2W Vendor: Level 50 Ticket (Cost: 20 Million Influence) Go from level 1 to 50 rather instantly at the Pay To Win Vendor for 20 million influence. Would it help substantially cut back on the number of new and veteran players begging for AFK door sitting spots on AE Farms? Thanks, Lightning Drone Raise to 2 Billion and then MAYBE...I'll think about it for a few more seconds before saying No. 2 Wavicle's Guide To What Really Matters: What Needs To Be Done On Every Toon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wavicle Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 On 12/1/2021 at 5:06 PM, LightningDrone said: The real game starts at lvl 50. This is just flat out wrong. 2 Wavicle's Guide To What Really Matters: What Needs To Be Done On Every Toon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ukase Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 On 12/1/2021 at 2:06 PM, Shenanigunner said: endless clamoring to raise the Inf cap. I'd personally like the inf cap raised to 1 trillion. But I have never, ever clamored for such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shenanigunner Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 1 minute ago, Ukase said: I'd personally like the inf cap raised to 1 trillion. But I have never, ever clamored for such. Well, you know, pretty soon you'd be talking about real money. 😄 UPDATED: v4.15 Technical Guide (post 27p7)... 154 pages of comprehensive and validated info on on the nuts and bolts!ALSO: GABS Bindfile · WindowScaler · Teleport Guide · and City of Zeroes all at www.Shenanigunner.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZacKing Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 18 hours ago, Wavicle said: This is just flat out wrong. I don't necessarily disagree since pretty much all the story content is pre-50. That doesn't mean people can't have building up a 50 to exemplar down their preference for the end game. It's just an opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wavicle Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 12 hours ago, ZacKing said: I don't necessarily disagree since pretty much all the story content is pre-50. That doesn't mean people can't have building up a 50 to exemplar down their preference for the end game. It's just an opinion. Of course. If people want to PL to 50 and then play that's their choice. It's not what I like to do, and I certainly don't recommend it for new players, but for long time players they should play how they like. However, asking for a level 50 button is ridiculous and trying to justify that absurdity by claiming the real game is at 50 is also ridiculous. 1 1 1 Wavicle's Guide To What Really Matters: What Needs To Be Done On Every Toon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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