Ninjas

[Turric]

This may really belong in the Suggestions area, but I wanted to put it in General just to get a feel for the reaction. It is a suggestion of a suggestion. How would the rest of you feel about a ninja faction, similar to Foot Clan or the Hand. I understand that the Tsoo kind of cover this area, but my understanding is they are less Japanese and more Chinese (and south Chinese at that). It would be racist to clump them all under "East Asian". However, a break away faction of the Tsoo could be understandable. I think there is fertile ground for something that blends all the 1980 elements of ninja, perhaps even to the creation of robot ninjas, or even giant robots etc. There is a bunch of ground here for tropes and stereotypes, but they fit in with the theme of superheroes and comics. The art style would not even have to deviate much from some of the Tsoo models, that part would be pretty easy. Or, make more signature Tsoo enemies, named ones, that have a ninja feel to them. Even the interior design of their bases could be altered using some of the base building skins that are available.

 

Perhaps someone should make a new story arc that features a new enemy faction of ninjas.

 

TLDR: I want more ninjas to fight!

[Snarky]

[drbuzzard]

One ninja is badass. A bunch of ninjas are creampuffs. Fighting hordes or ninjas would be?

[TalonBlue]

https://www.flyingcoloursmaths.co.uk/the-law-of-inverse-ninjas/

[Chance Jackson]

I'm not opposed but i think they'd work better if they work as elite mercs literally hidden within the ranks of other groups especially to deal with high powered interlopers & always as EBs or higher perhaps make them part of the enhanced difficulty system

[GastlyGibus]

Don't the Knives of Artemis kind of fill in that role? Sure, they're not explicit, true ninjas from Japanese history, but they still fit the niche pretty well. Focus on stealth and subterfuge, throwing stars, caltrops, katanas, masks, the whole deal. I do wish they got more screentime and story arcs, though. Right now they're just "those assassins that Malta hires sometimes."

Edited August 4, 2023 by GastlyGibus

[UltraAlt]

On 8/2/2023 at 6:52 AM, Turric said:

Perhaps someone should make a new story arc that features a new enemy faction of ninjas.

 

Have you checked the AE to see if there are any ninja story arcs in there?

 

 

 

 

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Edited August 4, 2023 by UltraAlt

[biostem]

I kind of feel like "Ninjas" would better describe the various stealth/infiltration/assassination units that various factions have;  The Knives or Artemis do it through extensive training, Arachnos does it through psychic powers, and so on, rather than a faction on its own...

Edited August 4, 2023 by biostem

[Scarlet Shocker]

A thread about Ninjas? I never saw that coming

[Techwright]

On 8/2/2023 at 6:52 AM, Turric said:

TLDR: I want more ninjas to fight!

 

Wait your turn!  We've already got ninjas.  I'm still waiting for war elephants.  When are we finally going to get those, huh?

[Herotu]

1 hour ago, Techwright said:

 

We've already got ninjas.  

What? Where? 

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[KC4800]

Ninjas cramp my style. But, ok. As long as they don't eat the croissants.

[Mopery]

2 hours ago, KC4800 said:

Ninjas cramp my style. But, ok. As long as they don't eat the croissants.

Why do I picture your character yelling out: "SPORK!"?

[Turric]

On 8/4/2023 at 1:46 AM, UltraAlt said:

 

Have you checked the AE to see if there are any ninja story arcs in there?

 

 

 

 

Yes, there are some in the AE but I was hoping for something outside of it. A new story or faction or something.

 

And yes, Knives of Artemis kind of meet the criteria. I want that retro 80s Revenge of the Ninja feel, or American Ninja or any of that other bad 80s camp.

 

Or even the Ninja Gaiden / Shinobi feel. I want to fight Stormshadow and his Cobra students at the Arashikage Dojo! I want to fight Shredder and the Foot Clan!

[Saiyajinzoningen]

The inverse ninja rules seems legit, are ninja turtles exempt?

[Sanguinesun]

On 8/2/2023 at 7:52 PM, Turric said:

This may really belong in the Suggestions area, but I wanted to put it in General just to get a feel for the reaction. It is a suggestion of a suggestion. How would the rest of you feel about a ninja faction, similar to Foot Clan or the Hand. I understand that the Tsoo kind of cover this area, but my understanding is they are less Japanese and more Chinese (and south Chinese at that). It would be racist to clump them all under "East Asian". However, a break away faction of the Tsoo could be understandable. I think there is fertile ground for something that blends all the 1980 elements of ninja, perhaps even to the creation of robot ninjas, or even giant robots etc. There is a bunch of ground here for tropes and stereotypes, but they fit in with the theme of superheroes and comics. The art style would not even have to deviate much from some of the Tsoo models, that part would be pretty easy. Or, make more signature Tsoo enemies, named ones, that have a ninja feel to them. Even the interior design of their bases could be altered using some of the base building skins that are available.

 

Perhaps someone should make a new story arc that features a new enemy faction of ninjas.

 

TLDR: I want more ninjas to fight!

 

Go play the Summer Block Buster (SBB) in game. You'll get all sorts of ninja fun then.  And monkey shines too. 😛

[Black Talon]

Agreed with GastlyGibus the big one-ten.  The only thing that the KoA (and filling in the abbreviation with "Knives of Artemis" or "Killed on Arrival" fits the group about equally well) are missing is the cultural context.  In terms of the power-sets...well, with regard to your classic ninjitsu, there ain't nothin' missin'.  I can see any member of this group applying to become an acolyte of The Hand in Netflix's Daredevil series and getting a membership card before they're out the door (or risen from the pit, as the case may be).  However, they'd have to do a complete turnaround with regard to motivation: the KoA and their reactionary, rather reductionist militant feminist approach would have to go out the window in favour of Frank Miller's rules for The Hand - especially Order Number One: Leave Nothing Living - along with dispensing with Western culture, including science, presumably, and replaced with Eastern mysticism.  Yeah, the black hoods and gi, along with the ninja-to, shuriken and tetsu-bishi are all part of the in-your-face image, but it'd be nice to see a villain group that claims the same fanatical, death-worship that The Hand do and follow the same sort of millenarian-apocalypse vision, rather than engaging in the rather childish, "I'm more gooder at being a ninja assassin than you are," self-promoting proclamations the KoA are inclined to make.

[Turric]

2 hours ago, Black Talon said:

Agreed with GastlyGibus the big one-ten.  The only thing that the KoA (and filling in the abbreviation with "Knives of Artemis" or "Killed on Arrival" fits the group about equally well) are missing is the cultural context.  In terms of the power-sets...well, with regard to your classic ninjitsu, there ain't nothin' missin'.  I can see any member of this group applying to become an acolyte of The Hand in Netflix's Daredevil series and getting a membership card before they're out the door (or risen from the pit, as the case may be).  However, they'd have to do a complete turnaround with regard to motivation: the KoA and their reactionary, rather reductionist militant feminist approach would have to go out the window in favour of Frank Miller's rules for The Hand - especially Order Number One: Leave Nothing Living - along with dispensing with Western culture, including science, presumably, and replaced with Eastern mysticism.  Yeah, the black hoods and gi, along with the ninja-to, shuriken and tetsu-bishi are all part of the in-your-face image, but it'd be nice to see a villain group that claims the same fanatical, death-worship that The Hand do and follow the same sort of millenarian-apocalypse vision, rather than engaging in the rather childish, "I'm more gooder at being a ninja assassin than you are," self-promoting proclamations the KoA are inclined to make.

 

That was well thought out!

[UltraAlt]

On 8/6/2023 at 2:56 AM, Turric said:

Yes, there are some in the AE but I was hoping for something outside of it. A new story or faction or something.

 

My hope is that some day good arcs/stories in the AE are brought into the actual game.

 

Want a faction? Build one in the AE, write missions around it, and have some fun with the kind of content you want to see in the game.

 

How about checking out the ninja stuff that is already in the AE and telling us what you think about it?

Are any of the existing Ninja AE stuff any good?

What do you think would improve it?

[UltraAlt]

On 8/5/2023 at 3:17 AM, Techwright said:

I'm still waiting for war elephants.  When are we finally going to get those, huh?

[BjorJlen]

Ninja Vanish!!!

 

[Techwright]

8 hours ago, UltraAlt said:

 

Ha! But yes, no poaching.  Each will be selectively picked from already domesticated stock, humanely raise at special farms that feed them an organic, heirloom, non-GMO diet, and will be given the finest martial training currently available so that they'll be completely ready for maximum carnage.

[Raikao]

If there's a cool twist to the theme I'd love that for sure.

 

Like give all of them robot arms/legs/eyes and make them a tech-cult. 

 

Or maybe take inspiration from the Kamigawa set in Magic the Gathering. Make it a "Neon Dynasty" aesthetic.

[Sykar]

Ghost Runner had a tech Ninja protagonist.

 

Could be an inspiration for someone.

Edited August 9, 2023 by Sykar

[biostem]

58 minutes ago, Raikao said:

Like give all of them robot arms/legs/eyes and make them a tech-cult. 

I think it was in the RIFTS: Japan sourcebook, where they had various factions of Ninja - those that were simply highly trained, but otherwise normal, those that used mystical arts/magic/psionics, and those that utilized cybernetics, chemical augmentation, and powered armor, to all achieve similar results - gave each an interesting "flavor" and outlook...