plainguy Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 Being straight I can work with builds in MIDS But just being lazy at what secondaries can go defense cap, Typed or Positional. I don't mind the chance of cascading defense failure. Not looking for a build just which secondaries I should be looking at. Going Claws primary btw. Thanks in Advance. Why Softcap is important: https://dechskaison.blogspot.com/2011/01/why-is-softcap-so-important.html Limits: https://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Limits Attack Mechanics: https://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Attack_Mechanics Semi & Petless Mastermind Builds: https://forums.homecomingservers.com/topic/10994-petless-and-semi-petless-masterminds/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bopper Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 Many can. I have a Bio Scrapper softcapped to all types (other than psy). The defense based sets certainly can (shield, SR). If you're willing to spend anything on a build, many sets probably can hit softcap. PPM Information Guide Survivability Tool Interface DoT Procs Guide Time Manipulation Guide Bopper Builds +HP/+Regen Proc Cheat Sheet Super Pack Drop Percentages Recharge Guide Base Empowerment: Temp Powers Bopper's Tools & Formulas Mids' Reborn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saikochoro Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 (edited) I actually also have a ma/bio scrapper that is softcapped to all types except Psionic. It is fairly pricey though. By far the most expensive of all my builds coming in at about 400m since I used some winter IOs. I also have dark melee/shield and war mace/shield scrappers that are over soft cap for each position and have 80% global recharge before hasten. These came in at about 250 - 300m. It’s easier to start building in recharge with shield than bio. However, Bio has much better layered defenses with resists and especially absorb/healing. Both have nice +damage boosts. I honestly haven’t used any other secondary for scrappers besides those two. Edited April 2, 2020 by Saikochoro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haijinx Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 easiest to soft-cap is SR Then probably EA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redlynne Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 19 hours ago, plainguy said: Going Claws primary Try Claws/Ninjitsu. Verbogeny is one of many pleasurettes afforded a creatific thinkerizer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crysis Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 My DB/Ninja was very easy to softcap for melee. It is basically a slightly weaker form of SR with a few different tricks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plainguy Posted April 2, 2020 Author Share Posted April 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Crysis said: My DB/Ninja was very easy to softcap for melee. It is basically a slightly weaker form of SR with a few different tricks. went with ninja.. 1 Why Softcap is important: https://dechskaison.blogspot.com/2011/01/why-is-softcap-so-important.html Limits: https://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Limits Attack Mechanics: https://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Attack_Mechanics Semi & Petless Mastermind Builds: https://forums.homecomingservers.com/topic/10994-petless-and-semi-petless-masterminds/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crysis Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 Just now, plainguy said: went with ninja.. I really enjoyed it as an alternative to SR. Your Defense Debuff resists aren’t as good but I had good results with layering my secondary DEF with high (softcapped) S/L/E resists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plainguy Posted April 2, 2020 Author Share Posted April 2, 2020 7 minutes ago, Crysis said: I really enjoyed it as an alternative to SR. Your Defense Debuff resists aren’t as good but I had good results with layering my secondary DEF with high (softcapped) S/L/E resists. Might have to rework my build as didn't get that high in resistance numbers Why Softcap is important: https://dechskaison.blogspot.com/2011/01/why-is-softcap-so-important.html Limits: https://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Limits Attack Mechanics: https://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Attack_Mechanics Semi & Petless Mastermind Builds: https://forums.homecomingservers.com/topic/10994-petless-and-semi-petless-masterminds/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamingLove Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 On 4/1/2020 at 11:06 PM, Bopper said: Many can. I have a Bio Scrapper softcapped to all types (other than psy). The defense based sets certainly can (shield, SR). If you're willing to spend anything on a build, many sets probably can hit softcap. You have a bioscrapper who is soft capped on defense? You mean resistance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkir Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, DreamingLove said: You have a bioscrapper who is soft capped on defense? You mean resistance? He means defense. Softcapping all resists except psionic is impossible on a bioscrapper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamingLove Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, Darkir said: He means defense. Softcapping all resists except psionic is impossible on a bioscrapper. Oh okay, I thought Bio Armor was a Res set? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkir Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 18 minutes ago, DreamingLove said: Oh okay, I thought Bio Armor was a Res set? It's more a mixture of both. You get decent defense for all types but psionic, smashing, and lethal. Then you get pretty good resistances to most things. You can also use defense stance to help these numbers out if you need them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bopper Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 1 hour ago, DreamingLove said: You have a bioscrapper who is soft capped on defense? You mean resistance? Defense. I have over 45%+ defense in S/L/E/N/F/C in offensive mode. I believe it reaches 51%+ in defensive mode. 1 PPM Information Guide Survivability Tool Interface DoT Procs Guide Time Manipulation Guide Bopper Builds +HP/+Regen Proc Cheat Sheet Super Pack Drop Percentages Recharge Guide Base Empowerment: Temp Powers Bopper's Tools & Formulas Mids' Reborn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call Me Awesome Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 You can soft cap defense to at least one category, for example S/L or Melee, with literally ANY AT and powerset in the game whether your powers provide any defense or not. I have a Fire/EM blaster with soft capped Ranged defense from mostly IO bonuses. I have a Fire/Regen stalker with soft capped S/L defense from pools and IO bonuses. Now if your sets don't provide any defense at all you'll have a lot of trouble getting to the soft cap in more than one category. I haven't made a real study of it but absent a set providing defense if it's possible at all to soft cap everything it'll be extremely gimped in other areas and likely highly expensive. Now Claws as your primary will leave out Shield as a secondary but SR, EA, WP, Inv and undoubtedly several others are doable to hit the soft cap for most everything. However, the defense soft cap isn't the holy grail of durability; with the exception of SR you'll find quite a few mobs capable of stripping your defense from you with debuffs so having a second line of defense is a good idea. High defenses layered on top of high resistances and/or regeneration/healing will work better than defense alone. Guardian Survivor, occasional tanker and player of most AT's. Guides: Invulnerability Tankers, The first 20 levels. Invulnerability Tankers Soft Cap defense Spoiler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murcielago Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 On 4/2/2020 at 6:14 PM, Saikochoro said: It is fairly pricey though. "Laughs in Live Server prices" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Z Bubba Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 Capped defense means fark-all without proper defense debuff resistance. Claws/SR for the win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saikochoro Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 On 4/9/2020 at 3:41 AM, Murcielago said: "Laughs in Live Server prices" Pricey compared to what I’m used to spending on a toon. Coming from someone who never used IOs at all in live and have used SOs/common IOs for most of my time on homecoming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murcielago Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 11 hours ago, Saikochoro said: Pricey compared to what I’m used to spending on a toon. Coming from someone who never used IOs at all in live and have used SOs/common IOs for most of my time on homecoming. Hit me up if you need some INF. I've got more than I know what to do with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saikochoro Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 On 4/11/2020 at 5:08 AM, Murcielago said: Hit me up if you need some INF. I've got more than I know what to do with. Well I wouldn’t say no, but I’ve finally been able to fund a few builds using converter magic. I just have so many alts that it dries up quickly unless I use budget version builds. Not that I’m complaining. Still better than SO builds 😉. Maybe one day I’ll be at the point of have more than I know what to do with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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