Coyote Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 Earth/Storm for controlled storming. Illusion/Storm for uncontrolled storming. Water/Storm for a real bad time for property values. And two AoEs with FF proc help bring out Moar Storm, and we know everyone loves more storm 😄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Myshkin Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 How is now one talking about a Storm/Energy Defender? Are all of you MAD?! It is truly the king of Storm builds! 1 1 Pylon Test Run Submission Proc Monsters (Controller Edition) Proc Monsters (Defender Edition) Pylon Test Run Results Proc Monsters (Tanker Edition) "Mad King Special" "Ceterum autem censeo Iram esse delendam" Mad King Special - Force Edition (NEW!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fitzsimmons Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Sir Myshkin said: How is now one talking about a Storm/Energy Defender? Are all of you MAD?! It is truly the king of Storm builds! I made your mad king storm/nrg defender and it's super fun. Got used to managing end using conserve power, victory rush and unleash potential. Usually I'll change things in a build but I went with this straight up. So if it hasn't been said before, thanks for the time you put into it. This guy appreciates it. Next up is your ss/rad armor brute. Even though I already have 2 other super strength toons... I'm gonna do it. Edited June 21, 2020 by fitzsimmons 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainLupis Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, MTeague said: I don't often do crazy-high recharge builds. I know, I know, I'm a heretic. (My Dom's are an exception to this) But I have a workable attack chain without it, and powers like Freezing Rain / Tornado / Lightning Storm are coming back fast enough already, I'm content. Neither do I, I've only ever bothered to get perma hasten on one build, my StJ/SR stalker, but usually you are having to sacrifice some set bonus or other to squeeze something like the FF in, where with gale for the sake of 2 additional slots (for the KB to KD and the FF) you have turned a power that most people hate (but have to take anyway depending on AT) into a wonderful utility power with minimal effort and investment. Edited June 21, 2020 by CaptainLupis Bopper: "resistance resists resistible resistance debuffs" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrome Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 13 hours ago, BrandX said: Elec/Storm/Ice Troller here. I don't keep Hurricane on all the time, I use it when I feel I can keep them locked down with it. Awesome on Posi 1 City Hall. 🙂 Go in draining end and forcing them back is nice! does elec control prevent the kb/repel from hurricane? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coyote Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 6 minutes ago, Chrome said: does elec control prevent the kb/repel from hurricane? None of the Immobs will prevent a Repel effect. While some will convert knockback to knockdown, I think that Electric and Gravity's AoE Immobs don't do this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyghtmaire Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 Seconding @Lazarillo for the demon/storm mastermind (will add Mu patron set for -KB immobilize). Absolutely a joy to play (at least it was on Live). Generic mystic themes = low hanging fruit, which is not a bad thing by any stretch. The Splintered Soul Project: (Nyght****) 21 and counting (18 max). DSorrow: “Give a man a build export and you feed him for a day, teach him to build and he's fed for a lifetime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandX Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 27 minutes ago, Chrome said: does elec control prevent the kb/repel from hurricane? No, but I did put a KB->KD IO in Hurricane. So the repel still happened, and I was pretty good about knowing when to use it and when not to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Substaticman Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 (edited) 11 hours ago, Sir Myshkin said: How is now one talking about a Storm/Energy Defender? Are all of you MAD?! It is truly the king of Storm builds! Better than storm/water? As I heard someone get pretty good ST dps on that while also having the awesome AOE. And it's pretty fun so far. Edited June 21, 2020 by Substaticman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Myshkin Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 9 hours ago, Substaticman said: Better than storm/water? As I heard someone get pretty good ST dps on that while also having the awesome AOE. And it's pretty fun so far. Fun aside, there's not going to be a realistic difference when Storm is involved. The downtime between keeping up FR, LS, and Tornado is so limited/tight that the best anyone can hope for is just "get a hit in while I can." Given the effect of tidal counts I could actually see Water having a slightly harder time managing itself depending on how things line up. The FF+Rech laced around the build(s) can shave seconds in odd places, so it really is a game of click-the-best-power-now! I remember much earlier on testing an Illusion/Storm long before doing any of the Proc Monster stuff that someone else had taken a Pylon down with just around 60/s. I wanted to see it for myself and the conditions to get there were just intense, and the time to do anything between anything else was a bare-luck minimum of cycling just two attacks a couple of times before being spammed into the next Storm ability. It shows just how strong Storm Summoning actually is on its own, and that anything else a player does is just a shy attempt to keep up with it. The illusion of it was pretty easily shattered when any one piece of the puzzle fell out of place. Storm/Energy is a much more free and (I know this sounds weird) relaxed high-intensity Storm build because it is incredibly forgiving of its own performance and I designed it to function with multiple safety nets, and absolutely void of Incarnate abilities. The beauty of it is that Water Blast, Dual Pistols, and Assault Rifle can all be subbed in under the (nearly identical) slotting method giving considerable variety to one design as any one of the four sets will all shine equally. Pylon Test Run Submission Proc Monsters (Controller Edition) Proc Monsters (Defender Edition) Pylon Test Run Results Proc Monsters (Tanker Edition) "Mad King Special" "Ceterum autem censeo Iram esse delendam" Mad King Special - Force Edition (NEW!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0th Power Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 On 6/21/2020 at 12:33 AM, Sir Myshkin said: How is now one talking about a Storm/Energy Defender? Are all of you MAD?! It is truly the king of Storm builds! Embrace the knockback! 1 I am Pro-Human I invented Combat Teleport I invented K'ong (More proof here too) Battle Rifle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coyote Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 2 hours ago, 0th Power said: Embrace the knockback! I tried to, but it pushed me away. 😞 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0th Power Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, Coyote said: I tried to, but it pushed me away. 😞 Lol. You forgot the blessing of the zephyr I am Pro-Human I invented Combat Teleport I invented K'ong (More proof here too) Battle Rifle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coyote Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 41 minutes ago, 0th Power said: Lol. You forgot the blessing of the zephyr I got the blessing of the Gale 😉 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zep Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 I like my Fire/Storm/Leviathan Controller and my Fire/Storm Corrupter both of which operate on an elemental/magic theme. ** Asus TUF x670E Gaming, Ryzen 7950x, AIO Corsair H150i Elite, TridentZ 192GB DDR5 6400, Sapphire 7900XTX, 48" 4K Samsung 3d & 56" 4k UHD, NVME Sabrent Rocket 2TB, MP600 Pro 8tb, MP700 2 TB. HDD Seagate 12TB ** ** Corsair Voyager a1600 ** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merrypessimist Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 On 6/22/2020 at 11:31 AM, Coyote said: I got the blessing of the Gale 😉 You'll sure have a Ga-ole time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZorkNemesis Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 I have an Elec/Storm/Levi Troller. Double down on Tornadoes, chain knockdowns, rain, and lightning. Nothing is ever able to stand up long enough to fight me. It's actually pretty stupid but so much fun. Currently playing on Indomitable as @Zork Nemesis; was a Protector native on live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roleki Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 On 6/20/2020 at 6:31 PM, Seigmoraig said: I like Storm best on a Controller. What happens with the Tornado is that it wanders around and chases enemies and enemies try to run away from it resulting in a lot playing tag and not a lot of damage. Secondly with Lightning Storm since it is in a static location the enemies that are running away from your Tornado with get out of range of it. I agree, Storm feels more effective on a Controller because you usually have multiple patches/immobs that can keep things in one place fairly easily; slap a KB:KD in Gale/Tornado/Lightning Storm and you're basically an A-10: lots of firepower brought to bear on a small area for an extended amount of time. I've got 5 /Storm controllers rolled up: Ice/Storm is a fun combo thematically... Storm shores up Ice's relatively weak damage, and the slows/patch out of Ice keep the Tornado/Lightning Storm doing their thing. Arctic Air/Thunderclap pretty much eliminates all incoming damage from anything less than a boss. Dark/Storm can be awkward (due to your AoE immob being a cone) but the -ToHit and numerous pets/pseudopets make it very survivable. Having 2x PBAoE stuns comes in handy as well. Ill/Storm is chaotic (even with KB:KD) but it's a very easy build to get perma PA out of; start off a mob with PA -> Freezing Rain -> Spectral Terror and you can practically AFK. Grav/Storm is a classic that only got better with the KB:KD enhancement; Wormhole and Hurricane mean things happen where you want them to happen, and TO whomever you want them to happen to, and a good sprinkling of FF+Rech means those things happen more often than they should. But my favorite so far has been Fire/Storm; Gale, Bonfire and Freezing Rain keep things flopping around, and whatever manages to stand up through that finds itself swarmed by Imps, Tornadoes and Lightning Storm. Fire/Storm melts mobs quick - sometimes too quick; there have been many times I've swept out one area of PI and moved on, only to have an angry mob come running after me because they spawned on top of a Bonfire or Lightning Storm I fired off three mobs ago. 1 He doesn't HAVE an ass. That's one of the things we're transplanting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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