I think I should probably retire

[Yomo Kimyata]

Out of curiosity I started checking the kiosk with some of my alts.  Maybe I should stop selling enhancements already.

 

 

 

I doubt either of these are HC records, but I suspect I have more than a few alts in this range.

[UltraAlt]

4 hours ago, Yomo Kimyata said:

Maybe I should stop selling enhancements already.

 

Maybe you should go into the inspiration market?

 

 

[Six-Six]

Then who will run Bartertown??? =(

[Andreah]

One of my marketeers works in the salvage market. Higher volume, but lower margins.

 

 

[Ukase]

 

Sadly (or not) this is my first farmer. De-slotted, retired once I realized I could just re-roll them for the emp merits. Vet level 2525. So, most of my farmer/marketers never get more than 1000 enhancement sales before they're put out to pasture. 

 

This one is just pvp IO sales since April 2020 when I stumbled on to the idea that I could focus on one niche with one character. 


But, I play the game, too - and usually characters don't JUST do marketing, so there's no telling what the actual stats are without a lot of logging in/out and tallying. 

[optimistic]

On 1/26/2022 at 11:05 AM, Ukase said:

Sadly (or not) this is my first farmer. De-slotted, retired once I realized I could just re-roll them for the emp merits.

How/what do you re-roll for Empyrean Merits?

[Without_Pause]

12 minutes ago, optimistic said:

How/what do you re-roll for Empyrean Merits?

Guessing converting them over to Transcendent Merits and giving them to the new build. 

[optimistic]

1 minute ago, Without_Pause said:

Guessing converting them over to Transcendent Merits and giving them to the new build. 

So earn Empyrean Merits on Farmer Toon, convert to Transcendent Merits, email (5 of them) to Alt Toon, and then convert them back to Empyrean Merits.  That's a hassle, but I get it.  Why would this preclude the poster from selling enhancements on the market though?  

 

 

[AboveTheChemist]

37 minutes ago, optimistic said:

How/what do you re-roll for Empyrean Merits?

Given the relative ease with which one can level a farmer (especially after the first), I assumed that what Ukase meant was that once his farmer hit vet level 99 and the emp merits stopped flowing, that farmer was retired in favor of a new farmer that could once again earn emp merits with their vet levels. If the new farmer is the same build (or close), then the old one could be stripped and their enhancements given to the new one. I could be way off, though.

[Yomo Kimyata]

I could be wrong, but I'd think it would be more time efficient to move to a new alt at either 24 or 48.

[wjrasmussen]

On 1/25/2022 at 6:26 PM, Yomo Kimyata said:

Out of curiosity I started checking the kiosk with some of my alts.  Maybe I should stop selling enhancements already.

 

 

 

I doubt either of these are HC records, but I suspect I have more than a few alts in this range.

The entire economy would collapse. 

[Troo]

On 1/26/2022 at 7:04 AM, Andreah said:

One of my marketeers works in the salvage market. Higher volume, but lower margins.

 

Wow

[Troo]

On 1/26/2022 at 8:05 AM, Ukase said:

I could just re-roll them for the emp merits

 

This would never have occurred to me.

[Yomo Kimyata]

3 hours ago, wjrasmussen said:

The entire economy would collapse. 

[Ukase]

14 hours ago, AboveTheChemist said:

Given the relative ease with which one can level a farmer (especially after the first), I assumed that what Ukase meant was that once his farmer hit vet level 99 and the emp merits stopped flowing, that farmer was retired in favor of a new farmer that could once again earn emp merits with their vet levels. If the new farmer is the same build (or close), then the old one could be stripped and their enhancements given to the new one. I could be way off, though.

Not quite. This is just anecdotal and my perception bias at work, but I notice it takes roughly the same amount of time to get from 1-50 as it takes to get 3 vet levels. 

Given that perception of mine, it doesn't make sense to me to keep working a farmer from vet level 48 to 51 when the emps drop from 15 to 10. So, I reroll at that point. 

A case can be made to reroll at 24, before the emp drops go from 20 to 15, but it can  be a bit tedious to re-roll. You have to respec twice to get all the IOs out. Then you have to transfer all the merits, salvage, catalysts, etc to another character and then to the new farmer. 

[Ukase]

15 hours ago, optimistic said:

Why would this preclude the poster from selling enhancements on the market though?  

In my case, it wouldn't - except the farmer that can no longer earn emp merits, and doesn't have any IOs slotted, as those were given to the new alt...there's no reason to log in this character any more, once all the threads have been used to purchase super insps. I can't see continuing to log it in and market when the new farmer can do anything this one can do. 

[UltraAlt]

10 hours ago, Yomo Kimyata said:

 

 

[Without_Pause]

On 1/29/2022 at 8:12 AM, Ukase said:

I notice it takes roughly the same amount of time to get from 1-50 as it takes to get 3 vet levels.

I went and did the numbers on this and it checks out to being level 48. The thing which trips me up is my personal experience of a dual boxer goes against this. I might have to do a test on a level 1 build at some point. A 50 won't get a Vet level on a Big Mobs map, but I can't imagine having a character sitting at 48 after the farmer got three Vet levels. I wonder if it is part of AE experience being played with.

[Sakai]

What are these called?  Went to the Wiki to find where one was and couldn't remember.

 

Disregard please...seems there is one right by Talos train station.

Edited February 1, 2022 by Sakai

[Ukase]

11 hours ago, Without_Pause said:

I went and did the numbers on this and it checks out to being level 48. The thing which trips me up is my personal experience of a dual boxer goes against this. I might have to do a test on a level 1 build at some point. A 50 won't get a Vet level on a Big Mobs map, but I can't imagine having a character sitting at 48 after the farmer got three Vet levels. I wonder if it is part of AE experience being played with.

So a few things: 
Not all AE maps are the same. At least, anecdotally, I've noticed some maps give more XP for a +4 boss than other maps. More XP for +4 minions than other maps, too. 

Another point of information: The goal (for me) is to get the emp merits. So, if I were to proceed beyond vet level 48 to vet level 51, I only get 10 emp merits. I have to proceed further to vet level 54 to get 20 emp merits. 

So, technically, I need to PL a character from 1 to 50 vet level 3 sooner than it takes to get 6 vet levels. 
Or, alternatively, go from 1 to 50 vet level 3 faster than 2/3 the time it takes to get from vet level 24 to vet level 30. (which would give 30 merits)

But, as I should have mentioned, I'm an afk farmer. So, not really sweating the time. It's more a question of the number of maps. And, I think the optimal solution or process to do this is likely going to be different for many of us. 

[Without_Pause]

9 hours ago, Ukase said:

Not all AE maps are the same. At least, anecdotally, I've noticed some maps give more XP for a +4 boss than other maps. More XP for +4 minions than other maps, too. 

This isn't a factor when dual boxing. There are easily other factors going on terms of XP gain that I might not be factoring as well. It is interesting to think about having a level 48 so quickly.

[Ukase]

27 minutes ago, Without_Pause said:

This isn't a factor when dual boxing. There are easily other factors going on terms of XP gain that I might not be factoring as well. It is interesting to think about having a level 48 so quickly.

I'm missing something...you say that the different maps that give different XP for the kill of the same level mob isn't a factor when dual boxing? 
Why not? The xp is still less for each defeat, isn't it? Or have I totally misunderstood what you're written? (Certainly wouldn't be the first time that's happened!)

Edited February 1, 2022 by Ukase

[Without_Pause]

The map giving out low or high XP doesn't matter. I had assumed the total XP being given out to each character should be the same. This explains why a a character going from level 1 to 48 can be done at the same time as a level 50 getting 3 Vet levels. What I have experienced is that when I dual box, a level 50 famer is getting 3 Vet levels faster than the level 1 gets to 48. I reminded myself those characters aren't getting the same XP.

[UltraAlt]

On 1/26/2022 at 1:34 AM, UltraAlt said:

Maybe you should go into the inspiration market?

 

Sounds funny, but someone seems to be getting involved with it.

 

An Ebil Marketer perhaps?