Chalkarts Posted Monday at 02:20 AM Posted Monday at 02:20 AM I play mostly solo. I decided to make a terrible toon for shiggles. I want to make the worst possible character. The worst AT and worst set for it. Consider it a challenge run of a sad hero who was dealt the worst possible powers by fate and is just trying to get by. What would be the worst character when played as intended?
biostem Posted Monday at 02:25 AM Posted Monday at 02:25 AM Hmm... Maybe a kinetic melee/dark armor brute, or an earth/empathy controller? 1
Neiska Posted Monday at 02:30 AM Posted Monday at 02:30 AM Beast/Radiation MM? Both pretty low as far as MMs go. I've heard Wind Control is pretty blah too but never played that one.
MonteCarla Posted Monday at 02:49 AM Posted Monday at 02:49 AM Archery/Sonic Defender. Your ability to protect yourself will be terrible: - 24% resistance from Sonic Dispersion - Single target stun in Stunning Shot - Liquefy on a long recharge. Your only other secondary power you can us is Sonic Siphon, although... you could use Sonic Cage here. You could still make this work, but it'll be an uphill battle! 1 The Badass Empath Guide Modern Force Fields Guide The Rich Alt's Guide to Perma-Dom Resistances for Brutes Proc Bombing for Defenders
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Psyonico Posted Monday at 03:17 AM Posted Monday at 03:17 AM I think an Empathy defender would be way up there, and that's coming from someone who used to regularly solo his Empathy/Energy on Invincible (remember when that was the max difficulty?) Sonic Resonance would be pretty high too, but at least it has the advantage of giving hold and stun protection to you. 1 What this team needs is more Defenders
TygerDarkstorm Posted Monday at 03:33 AM Posted Monday at 03:33 AM 1 hour ago, Neiska said: Beast/Radiation MM? Both pretty low as far as MMs go. I've heard Wind Control is pretty blah too but never played that one. This really is kind of an awful combo. I'm not sure if it's the worst, but I have one at 50 and it was a rough ride there, and that was with teaming and not much soloing. 1 Global: @Valnara1; Discord Handle: @Valnara#0620 I primarily play on Everlasting, but you may occasionally find me on Indom. 🙂 Notable Characters: Apocolyptica - Demons/Storm MM; Lurking Monster - Human-Form WS; Environmentabot - Bots/Nature MM; Miss Fade - Ill/Traps Controller; Sister Apocalypse - Beast/Dark MM; Dr. Elaina Wrath - Plant/Rad Controller (Join the House of Wrath, and spread the word of science!); Ruff Ruff Boom - AR/Devices Blaster
Major_Decoy Posted Monday at 03:51 AM Posted Monday at 03:51 AM 1 hour ago, biostem said: Hmm... Maybe a kinetic melee/dark armor brute, I have a Dark Armour/Kinetic Melee tank that's a blast to play, though with the recent changes I'm thinking of dropping Whirlwind and picking up Oppressive Gloom and Cloak of Fear. 1
twozerofoxtrot Posted Monday at 04:18 AM Posted Monday at 04:18 AM I tried to do this once with a FF/Elec Def and they buffed both sets and now she's kinda good... 😆 Um... Willpower on Stalkers is godawful. MA/WP Stalker? Very single target and you have terrible regen and recovery. We love that. 1
MoonSheep Posted Monday at 07:42 AM Posted Monday at 07:42 AM 4 hours ago, MonteCarla said: Archery/Sonic Defender. Your ability to protect yourself will be terrible: - 24% resistance from Sonic Dispersion - Single target stun in Stunning Shot - Liquefy on a long recharge. Your only other secondary power you can us is Sonic Siphon, although... you could use Sonic Cage here. You could still make this work, but it'll be an uphill battle! i had this alt on live haha, a sonic resonance/archery defender. it was rather average but not truly awful, +res buffs still had a use back then. nowdays it would be definitely mediocre i have a low view of MMs, so picking the underperforming combo recommended in this thread will likely give you the amusement you’re after minion mastermind pets die after someone gives them a menacing look, the second rank pets live long enough to show the enemy where you’re standing and the third tier pets cast long winded animations over in the corner at an underling whilst your alt is having its skull caved in by the rest of the mob If you're not dying you're not living
cranebump Posted Monday at 10:27 AM Posted Monday at 10:27 AM Would any petless MM fit the bill here? 2 1 I have done a TON of AE work, both long form and single arc. Just search the AE mish list for my sig @cranebump. For more information on my stories, head to the AE forum sub-heading and look for “Crane’s World.” Support your AE authors! We ARE the new content.
Ukase Posted Monday at 10:45 AM Posted Monday at 10:45 AM 8 hours ago, Chalkarts said: What would be the worst character when played as intended? This is a complex question. Define "as intended". I say that, because the Paragon Devs when led by Jack were of the mindset that the only reason to log in was to team up. So, they were never intended to be solo. But if I take your question with a broad range, I think the worst with me as the player would have to be a mind dom. I made a mind/psionic assault dom once. It basically had me swearing off Dominators forever. (I later revisited..3 years later) For one, when you're a solo dominator, it takes a LOT longer to reach domination. No idea why, but it does. Now, I know a number of folks that play Mind doms flawlessly; or at least very well. But me...this would be the worst. I'm sure something like Mind/Sonic would have me logging off for good. Two horrible sets for ME. Others may shine with these sets. I don't see how..but they might.
cranebump Posted Monday at 11:50 AM Posted Monday at 11:50 AM (edited) 1 hour ago, cranebump said: Would any petless MM fit the bill here? D'oh...the request says "play as intended." That makes it hard. Most people intend to not die (my playstyle to the contrary).:-) Hmmm...I probably agree with the Emp DEF as being poor/slow to solo. Of course, if you really want to go "as intended," then it's such things as not seeding the character with any Inf, using drops, etc. The default style, in and of itself, makes things inherently tougher. Then you stack the more challenging AT/Powersets on top of that, you got yourself some nice, slow pain. Speaking of powersets: Beast/Rad is really that bad? Man, I thought Rad anything was pretty good, thanks to debuffs. Edited Monday at 11:51 AM by cranebump I have done a TON of AE work, both long form and single arc. Just search the AE mish list for my sig @cranebump. For more information on my stories, head to the AE forum sub-heading and look for “Crane’s World.” Support your AE authors! We ARE the new content.
Uun Posted Monday at 02:22 PM Posted Monday at 02:22 PM I had a Ninjas/Poison MM on live that was really awful. I know Ninjas was buffed recently, but there's very little synergy between the sets. 1 Uuniverse
TygerDarkstorm Posted Monday at 03:08 PM Posted Monday at 03:08 PM 3 hours ago, FupDup said: Empathy/Archery Defender This was my main on live. xD And I fell to the noob trap of focusing primarily on healing (though I don't think I took the medicine pool). I did eventually learn to respec her into something better, but yeah, this is a pretty painful combo and I think would be rough to solo. 3 hours ago, cranebump said: D'oh...the request says "play as intended." That makes it hard. Most people intend to not die (my playstyle to the contrary).:-) Hmmm...I probably agree with the Emp DEF as being poor/slow to solo. Of course, if you really want to go "as intended," then it's such things as not seeding the character with any Inf, using drops, etc. The default style, in and of itself, makes things inherently tougher. Then you stack the more challenging AT/Powersets on top of that, you got yourself some nice, slow pain. Speaking of powersets: Beast/Rad is really that bad? Man, I thought Rad anything was pretty good, thanks to debuffs. Rad is considered a bad secondary for MMs since some of its key powers don't work on henchmen, MM buff/debuff values aren't fantastic in the first place, toggles are expensive to run on MMs, and Beasts are bottom of the totem pole at the moment. It's not hoooorrible, but it was my least favorite MM experience so far, though I kinda want to try Rad with Demons or Zombies lol. Global: @Valnara1; Discord Handle: @Valnara#0620 I primarily play on Everlasting, but you may occasionally find me on Indom. 🙂 Notable Characters: Apocolyptica - Demons/Storm MM; Lurking Monster - Human-Form WS; Environmentabot - Bots/Nature MM; Miss Fade - Ill/Traps Controller; Sister Apocalypse - Beast/Dark MM; Dr. Elaina Wrath - Plant/Rad Controller (Join the House of Wrath, and spread the word of science!); Ruff Ruff Boom - AR/Devices Blaster
MTeague Posted Monday at 03:17 PM Posted Monday at 03:17 PM Sonic Blast/Sonic Resonance corruptor, on Goldside specifically, had me rethinking all of my life choices until I deleted the character. Secondary was entirely pointless and little-to-no mitigation in primary. Only that cone knockback. That was when I decided never to roll a Sonic Resonance who wasn't an MM. .
Uun Posted Monday at 04:48 PM Posted Monday at 04:48 PM 1 hour ago, MTeague said: Sonic Blast/Sonic Resonance corruptor, on Goldside specifically, had me rethinking all of my life choices until I deleted the character. Secondary was entirely pointless and little-to-no mitigation in primary. Only that cone knockback. That was when I decided never to roll a Sonic Resonance who wasn't an MM. I had one of these as a defender on live back when both sets were first released (i5). It was top of the heap for resist buffing/debuffing blue side for quite a while (until red side sets got ported over). Used it primarily for team play since Disruption Field could only be cast on an ally. Uuniverse
ZeeHero Posted Monday at 05:03 PM Posted Monday at 05:03 PM 13 hours ago, Psyonico said: I think an Empathy defender would be way up there, and that's coming from someone who used to regularly solo his Empathy/Energy on Invincible (remember when that was the max difficulty?) Sonic Resonance would be pretty high too, but at least it has the advantage of giving hold and stun protection to you. Emp is pretty decent in groups, not the best but rather good, especially at lower levels. It's just bad solo. Sonic is hardly bad at all.
Psyonico Posted Monday at 08:04 PM Posted Monday at 08:04 PM 3 hours ago, ZeeHero said: Emp is pretty decent in groups, not the best but rather good, especially at lower levels. It's just bad solo. Sonic is hardly bad at all. Since the OP said they mostly solo, I stand by my statement. What this team needs is more Defenders
MTeague Posted Monday at 08:42 PM Posted Monday at 08:42 PM 3 hours ago, Uun said: I had one of these as a defender on live back when both sets were first released (i5). It was top of the heap for resist buffing/debuffing blue side for quite a while (until red side sets got ported over). Used it primarily for team play since Disruption Field could only be cast on an ally. Which is why I said "on Goldside specfically". Goldside teams do happen, but they're rare. I go into it assuming I will probably end up soloing the entire 1-20. .
PartyKake Posted yesterday at 12:15 AM Posted yesterday at 12:15 AM (edited) dual pistols/dark miasma defender. challenge mode: no enhancements. even harder: don't use ninja run, it makes the animations cooler. Edited yesterday at 12:22 AM by PartyKake
Doomguide2005 Posted yesterday at 01:53 AM Posted yesterday at 01:53 AM My personal vote would be Ice Control/Sonic Resonance. Though I've yet to play it since both received buffs, maybe now it could fight its way out of wet paper bag. Empaths, of which I have 5 at 50, would be a breeze by comparison. The secondary is a blast set if at defender values (with vigilance buff). Slow yes, worst not long shot.
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