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Officially Unofficial Weekly Discussion #8: Pets
Greycat replied to SeraphimKensai's topic in General Discussion
Mm. Looks like one I was planning on answering but never did. I kinda-sorta like most pets. (Mind you, I'm keeping the "Pet vs Minion" divide here - Minions or henchmen are the commandable MM ones, and have their own issues.) I'm not fond of the one in Symphonic. It's not visually distinct, has a weird effect and just has not clicked with either of my Symphonic control characters (one Controller, one Dom.) I'm probably most annoyed by pets, in the form of Phantom Army, on Illusion. I don't try to build for all the recharge, but - at least controller-side - it always felt to me like you were forced to for Illusion because of PA. Not spectacular hard control - but whee, you got two invisibilities for whatever reason, and were leaning hard on PA. Which - unless I was making an emp in early days and was using the invis to keep a power pool free - was part of what made Illusion my least favourite control set. In short (and to the relevance,) pets should not force the rest of my build a certain way. (As far as other pet changes that have been made... I *still* hate having my blaster's Voltaic Sentinel as a toggle. I hate it. I've tried to play it, but I just solidly *hate* it now. I *really* do.) Lore pets - I don't care about numbers, I pick whatever seems best matching the character. If I can't find one, it's usually polar lights or robotic drones. I want more options, frankly - I have a character, for instance, that has ties to the Family. I'd love to have Family as a Lore option. Or Mastermind's Robotics minions as Lore pets. (Or, really, any of the MM minions as pets.) And... that goes to masterminds. I get the level shift thing - and it works (kind of) up to 50, then gets broken because Incarnate shifts aren't "real" levels. That aside, the shifts (to me) hurt *worse* in the 18-25 levels, when you get your last tier 1 minion - so they're *all* down -2 - and you only have one T2 that might hit... and, when MMs were only redside, you'd hit a fair number of AOE-heavy enemies, or so it seemed (frigging Demolitionists) so the T1s were just getting slaughtered - and there wasn't a heck of a lot you could do to offset it with slotting. It really felt like you were getting punished for playing a MM, or playing redside. (MSRs can be a bit like this, too, though I often will just not summon my T1s.) I don't know if getting rid of the level shift would help - I think it'd be a bit *too* much, really - but it could use some help, or Incarnate-shift-awareness. -
Adding the second quote because it kind of touches on the problem of the first - We have the codebase we have *now* because someone essentially smuggled the code that was going to be the next issue out of Paragon. (Technically, we *already* have a split because we have the "Paragon code" and "SCoRE modified" code, that has tweaks and things like the Sentinel in it with all the changes made there.) We *don't* have allllll the backups going back to (*pick issue here*) to pick and choose from. I don't believe it'd be possible (or reasonable) to actually MAKE an "Issue 3" server, for instance. Yes, you can rip out stuff like P2W, make the market non functional (just don't stock it, I guess) and start getting "Not quite current issue" functionality, but ... well, just the laundry list of things you'd have to figure out (how do you replace the Atlas shard with Echo:Atlas? How do you make Echo:Galaxy active as a starting zone? How do you reopen the gates to it? How do you stop bases from being created? - remember, we had SGs, but not base building, at the time. You'd have to remove all Villain ATs and zones, remove the Kheld story arcs and do a *lot* of power tweaking. You'd have to backtrack *all* the changes made to power values to what they were then... ... I mean, depending on just how accurate of an "issue 3" you want.
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Congrats. You've now forked the codebase Homecoming has to deal with. Which makes all future work harder. And as far as "just move the people there already?" Hell no. People go to the (let's use shard instead of server for clarity) they want to go to. They've built up bases, they have their characters, names, maybe they like it JUST where they are. Why should they be forced to move? There are other servers that already do this. If that's the gameplay desired, people can visit there - or even spin up their own. (Getting it started, honestly, is quite easy. Modding, I don't know.)
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The ones who care about feel and lore vs "GIMMEMERITSTENMINUTESORLESS," yes. If a threat is supposed to be city wide, if the infighting is supposed to be across multiple groups, then yes, sticking everything into one neighborhood (zone) diminishes that feel. The point about the council made earlier? That's something that could be looked at, sure. (Especially when you rush to get there and find the Council you've targeted has just been smashed by the 5th column that don't count.) But isolating everything (or even most things) to "just that zone" just makes things feel choppy and isolated. Maybe if you're looking at mission arcs, sure, but task forces should feel more epic than just another arc and involve more than just "The bad guys have bothered these five city blocks."
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Little thing I realized: For all the blueside I've played, my elec/elec blaster I made in i3 is the only one who's ever had Virginia Hoffman as a contact. Only real *arc* she gives is the Tsoo Shenanigans one, which a few others give, so I'm not missing *content,* but with literal hundreds of characters from then to now... I'm fairly sure she's the only one who's ever gotten Hoffman. (And they get raced past even without double XPs, DFBs - which I don't think i've been on in months - and the like.) Just something that, for whatever reason, has stuck out for me..
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Character max level is usually 26 to 30 now (for me)
Greycat replied to Diantane's topic in General Discussion
OK, so what's the "fun" of the character to you? Is it just powers? Are yours not *characters* you play with others - or solo - to get their own story, reactions, etc? Is this lower-level "finished-ness" a problem to you? Or are you just musing? Just for a different perspective - Those of mine that get to 50 are the ones that "happen" to, basically. I enjoy them as *characters,* not powersets or numbers of slots or whatnot. Some stall out because they sort of belong in an area, or aren't just brought out as much. (More "guest stars" to the main storylines I have going. Or remakes of older characters that I already "know" and am redoing mostly for nostalgia, but since not everyone they were tied to are here, they level much more slowly.) Basically, for mine, 50's just a number they'll eventually reach. It's rare I have any sort of drive to get there (one was getting concentrated on *specifically* to do the incarnate mission arc in Cim, because who and what's fought there just fit her.) -
Honestly, let's just go for "Big selection screen revamp." There are so many ideas with so many things people want to see (and customize) - more filters, sorting, having actual "pages" (which the current screen, to my understanding, doesn't really understand,) various sorts of data on the character and more. (And maybe the *option* to share character data or export it.)
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Suggestion: Reduction in complexity for the Invention system.
Greycat replied to ZaranBlack's topic in Suggestions & Feedback
... complex? It's as complex as a simple recipe. There's no guesswork. Get this recipe, get these pieces, pay this much, and it's all spelled out in the recipe itself. There's no element of chance in what'll come out, if you have X pieces, you'll get Y result. As far as explaining crafting to a newbie? That's what the tutorial in the university is for. Walks them through it, even gives them the salvage, and they end up with a common IO at the end, too. Frankly, I'd hate to see the various salvage go away for generic "Common, uncommon, rare." How utterly bland. The salvage often has some flavor to it, as well as progression of what it is. It'd be like going from story arcs to mission collections, where instead of investigating this, then that leads to a rescue, you just get nondescript "Defeat everyone. Rescue generic hostage," with no flavor at all. -
Well, hold on now. Do you know what the original setting was? It's quite possible he had room to lower it from the setting it was at - down to -1, after all. (Also, you should be able to tell, IIRC, by looking at the mission menu what the difficulty's set at so there's no surprises, even on a TF.)
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They've been tweaked, as I recall - but mostly to deal with the long pauses between ambushes. Other than that? The game's much different with IOs (and just *familiarity*) versus doing this with, say, DOs and a few SOs being all that was available. As well as issues upon issues of tweaks. (Inherent fitness = 3 more power picks by 20 for many if not most people, for instance.)
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Propel not throwing presents during Winter Event
Greycat replied to thunderforce's topic in Bug Reports
Me. Because I don't care for how it looks. Either from players or NPCs. -
I'll run the Kheldian arcs on pretty much every one I roll. I just wish there were a bit more separation later on between Peacebringer and Warshade, to get different views of what's happening. (Also, honestly I like the fact the world reacts to "Hey, a Kheldian" when playing them, spawning specific enemies for them. I wish VEATs had something similar going on.) Croatoa, I'll run on every magic character. And anyone else it fits. I love the little challenges in it (like the "Prevent 30 fir Bolg from escaping" - I try to keep on my 0 escapes run) - though I think the last mission could use some tweaking. On several characters it's "trap one NPC, go for a light lunch, come back 15 minutes later." Similarly, the Keith Nance/Jenny Adair pair I find fun. Redside... they keep saying "has better writing." But way too often, it's a selection of being railroaded along a line of things you wouldn't actually do, being a lackey, being pants-on-head stupid, or suddenly finding yourself slammed far over into the psychopath zone without really knowing ahead of time (unless you've done them before) which you're going to get. Granted, villains are typically *pro*active, not *re*active, and so much harder to write, but it makes me enjoy redside far less unless I'm with a group and we're writing our own AEs and plots and such. And I'm not in that sort of group here. And I've run the VEAT storyline once. And, frankly, hated it after the first few arcs. (Maybe level 15-20?) Might have changed, but I vaguely remember in the 30s or so getting one which was *very* short and basically going "Ha-ha, you're being suckered into thinking you're getting away with something but we've been watching the whole time, idiot. What a loser. XOXO, Recluse." Forced myself to finish the rest of them, haven't had the slightest interest in playing them again... *since they were introduced.* They felt rushed, they were annoying... and as mentioned, haven't touched them (past the level 10 costume mission) since.
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AE Tickets or Reward Merit buy crafted Purples
Greycat replied to Troo's topic in Suggestions & Feedback
Well, if you're using AE already, you can use that to get rares at a "regular price" as it is. Eh. I think if this were put in, it'd have to be at a somewhat higher price than the recipes, to make up for the lack of crafting involved. Either that or recipes would have to stop dropping all together in favor of crafted, and I don't see that happening. -
Coup de grace vs held/knocked down underlings, minions, and LTs
Greycat replied to biostem's topic in Suggestions & Feedback
Except the powers I mentioned - and the IOs - can achieve continual knockdowns for a time period. So you're getting free shots on several enemies - which could otherwise take some time, thanks to resists, etc. to kill. Besides... running up? There are numerous point-blank (well, melee range) holds. (Gravity well comes to mind, given how much I Warshade.) Points for an interesting idea, but I just don't think it's one I'd get behind. -
Coup de grace vs held/knocked down underlings, minions, and LTs
Greycat replied to biostem's topic in Suggestions & Feedback
Do the enemies get this sort of option as well? And "knocked down," especially, seems *seriously* overpowered, espeically with things like bonfire+KB-KD IO, Ice Patch and the like. Or multiple damage auras with "Chance for KD" in them. Or even "New meta = everyone take Air Superiority." Dunno. This sounds like a mix of gimmicky and overpowered. -
Propel not throwing presents during Winter Event
Greycat replied to thunderforce's topic in Bug Reports
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fixed Impassioned Serenade bugged, not confusing
Greycat replied to WindDemon21's topic in Bug Reports
Ran both asymphonic controller (mid-30s, ended up burning the secondary build on this, so no acc) and a dom (mid-20s.) Unless the attack missed, everything that I tried to confuse on either one confused reliably, bosses (of course) taking multiple applications to stack required mag. -
It does not affect SG names at all. Edit: Also, tried with two different accounts, multiple characters, and couldn't reproduce this.
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AE Tickets or Reward Merit buy crafted Purples
Greycat replied to Troo's topic in Suggestions & Feedback
You can already get the recipes for reward merits, though. Not sure what makes it hard to craft one... looking at last-5 sales (granted, it's the AH interface...) there's no weirdness in the prices, and it's not like salvage has stopped dropping. -
*tags them with my "useless" sleep, shutting down the FF.* Stuff like this is why I always thought people just *weren't paying attention* when complaining about sleep... "Oh, no, damage wakes them!" Yeah, and they don't have that armor/bubble/other power now, do they... you're welcome for making killing them so much easier. As for worst boss? Yeah, going with the Carnies Master Illusionist, primarily for one annoyance *regardless* of AT - summoning a Phantasm which can summon a decoy Phantasm. Everything else any boss summons is killable. If you're rescuing/kidnapping someone, though, that decoy just sits and wastes time.
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Auto Logout when AFK for more than 20 minutes in a mission.
Greycat replied to Wavicle's topic in Suggestions & Feedback
Possibly so that people who are pulled away for whatever reason don't have to start the entire mission over? Life happens. I don't see a reason why this should be changed. -
... well if you're paying attention to your buff bar in the PVP zones, they do also affect your side and the other side. Run the missions to work off the debuffs the other side might put on you (and push to damage and resist buffs.) 🙂
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I'd have to double check, but I *think* it considers the environment PVE inside of those missions, since you're not actually in the zone. (And there are so few PVPers, and even fewer in the zones, that PVEers can typically wander in, grab badges, get a heavy, etc. without worrying about it.)
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Right, but you had to be *in* the zone to pick those up. As I said, no PVE contact sent you there. If you're talking about *those* missions (which I also specifically mentioned,) you were in a PVP zone doing PVP missions, so ... complaining about people engaging in PVP while in a PVP zone is kind of like complaining about people speeding on a racetrack.