Snarky

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I ran Invulnerability for well over a year when I first started. Knockback was one of the many reasons. It serves very well. -10KB. Man was I surprised the first time I encountered Back alley Brawler and he launched me across the map?!? My main now, A dark Dark Brute, has one 4 pt KB prot in Mystic Flight. And flies most of the time. Rarely an issue. Although in a +4 ITF with a lowbie team (complete nigtmare, I was not team lead) I was getting pinballed in fight at comp terminal very bad. Over, and over, and over, and then one more time. Survived, but lost a lot of time getting into position....as KB will do. I have heard, but am unsure, that 5 , 6, 7, 8 pts KB prot are effectively the same as 4 pts, due to the way the game scales KB. What arte the actual "breakpoints" in KB prot? (building a Dark / Dark Sentinel. decidedly untanky but definitely no room to get mezzed /KB.

i think peeps continue on through the wards and call that Goldside

Okay. Lot of good feedback in the Tank vs. Brute topic. A little spirited too lol But can someone explain to me simply (besides a wee bit more range) The Damage potential difference between Brutes and Sentinels? Basic damage modifiers, target caps if applicable (I know Sentinels got truncated compared to Blasters...how do they stand vs Brutes?)

at some point the only AT left will be tank and "Guy McNormal" 23 will have a chance lol

I know it defeats the purpose....but i offer up the plotline from Supernatural. The guy never knows he dies. Some "power" changes his timeline so he did not die. Just a tought, the project sounds difficult as is lol. Can only imagine being level 30something and walk into a zone under Rikti Assault and get slammed. Be like....Noooooooooo

I have a live build that (while trying to make it better...?!?) I have a full set of Superior Avalanche in Footstomp. chance for KD. and FS has a chance for KD. Long story short...sometimes they squirt like a stomped ketchup packet.

but can you aim with that? you can play pool with force bolt

There are a few things in the game I always have bounce through my head as things I would really enjoy. Taking the time to learn Masterminds (and I would do it if we had a pure zombie horde! - err, probably) Or taking a Assault Rifle Traps Blaster all the way through the game solo. Learning how to build intricate death traps into every map and pulling the mobs to destruction. Share your great "Never really got around to it" ideas with me. And all of us. That way we can all think. "Hey, you know what I should do..." Before heading into Character Gen for our thousandth variation of the same toon...

Here is my tentative revision. I know this is a better version that the above. Losing Gloom hurts a little. But it was not maximizing my damage in many ways. I need to be right up on enemies. Gloom lets me 'pretend' to be a Blaster, which the build is crappy at. the other two soul mastery powers are very enhanced and clean AoE right on me. Gloom was not good. Mystic Bolt, while even crappier, can pull/ghetto mez and will be something I use tactically (very low damage and long activation) Touch of Fear was not needed for an AoE attack chain and was situationally helpful at best. Giving up those I got Rune of protection (which is up 50% time) and a damage proc in Cloak of Fear. (and a two set bonus there giving Energy Res) When i respec I will change order of the powers slightly. This was a "Hot Swap" in MiDs to see if it would work. It does! This Villain build was built using Mids Reborn 3.0.4.7 https://github.com/Reborn-Team/MidsReborn Click this DataLink to open the build! Snarky 2.2: Level 50 Magic Brute Primary Power Set: Dark Melee Secondary Power Set: Dark Armor Power Pool: Sorcery Power Pool: Fighting Power Pool: Speed Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery Villain Profile: Level 1: Smite -- Hct-Dmg(A), Hct-Dmg/Rchg(3), Hct-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(3), Hct-Acc/Rchg(5), Hct-Dmg/EndRdx(5), Hct-Dam%(7) Level 1: Dark Embrace -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(7), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(9), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(9), GldArm-3defTpProc(11) Level 2: Death Shroud -- SprUnrFur-Acc/Dmg(A), SprUnrFur-Dmg/Rchg(11), SprUnrFur-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(13), SprUnrFur-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(13), SprUnrFur-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(15), SprUnrFur-Rchg/+Regen/+End(15) Level 4: Murky Cloud -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(19), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(19), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(21) Level 6: Shadow Maul -- Arm-Dmg(A), Arm-Dmg/Rchg(21), Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(23), Arm-Acc/Rchg(23), Arm-Dmg/EndRdx(25), Arm-Dam%(25) Level 8: Mystic Flight -- BlsoftheZ-ResKB(A) Level 10: Obsidian Shield -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(27), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(27), UnbGrd-Max HP%(29) Level 12: Siphon Life -- SprBrtFur-Acc/Dmg(A), SprBrtFur-Dmg/Rchg(29), SprBrtFur-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(31), SprBrtFur-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(31), SprBrtFur-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(31), SprBrtFur-Rech/Fury%(33) Level 14: Arcane Bolt -- SprWntBit-Rchg/SlowProc(A) Level 16: Dark Regeneration -- Obl-Dmg(A), Obl-Acc/Rchg(33), Obl-Dmg/Rchg(33), Obl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(34), Obl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(34) Level 18: Dark Consumption -- Obl-Dmg(A), Obl-Acc/Rchg(34), Obl-Dmg/Rchg(36), Obl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(36), Obl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(36) Level 20: Cloak of Darkness -- Ksm-ToHit+(A), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(37), Rct-ResDam%(37), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(37) Level 22: Kick -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A) Level 24: Tough -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(39), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(39), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(40) Level 26: Soul Drain -- SprAvl-Acc/Dmg(A), SprAvl-Dmg/EndRdx(40), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(40), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(42), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(42), SprAvl-Rchg/KDProc(42) Level 28: Cloak of Fear -- CldSns-%Dam(A), CldSns-Acc/ToHitDeb(39) Level 30: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A) Level 32: Midnight Grasp -- SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg(A), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx(43), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(43), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43), SprBlsCol-Rchg/HoldProc(45) Level 35: Oppressive Gloom -- HO:Endo(A) Level 38: Soul Tentacles -- Bmbdmt-Dam(A), Bmbdmt-Acc/Rech/End(45), Bmbdmt-Dam/Rech(45), Bmbdmt-Acc/Dam/Rech(46), Bmbdmt-Acc/Dam/Rech/End(46), Bmbdmt-+FireDmg(46) Level 41: Dark Obliteration -- Rgn-Dmg(A), Rgn-Dmg/Rchg(48), Rgn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(48), Rgn-Acc/Rchg(48), Rgn-Dmg/EndRdx(50), Rgn-Knock%(50) Level 44: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(50) Level 47: Rune of Protection -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A) Level 49: Soul Transfer -- RechRdx-I(A) Level 1: Fury Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A) Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A) Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A) Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A) Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A) Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), Mrc-Rcvry+(17), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(17) Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A) Level 4: Ninja Run ------------ | Copy & Paste this data into Mids Reborn : Hero Designer to view the build | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| |MxDz;1440;654;1308;HEX;| |78DA6594CB4F136114C5BFE94CAD2D2D2DEF67E5DD02D50A05F11D8322266A13922| |66E9BA68CD85829692191A50BF70A5113E5AD2EF52F72E9C285888A468DC27867CE| |1135D3A4F9F59E7BCFDCFBDD9969FAEE44F0F5957B17945675A998AB54B217CB0BF| |3A6379D9B29E475A55420339B2BDF5EEC4C25533E091B9D74366D164D33392119FC| |6C863C61DE34672B4C8C97EF94CA2A38552A15939952396F9617434E305998B9355| |F989DF93F0AA070CE34A79B2ECF15F2495C32535A2866D3B9CABCD89B65803EF9BE| |577F3E9657C53C4A0DFB95274EF683C60039081E4A804F6D9BE6780DF54547EE2B7| |8F81BF91D0CA4C067B6051EAF1634900B81C16A320C5647C81A70455C3ABCBACE7E| |B5EC57CB7EF5ECB72D555E9ECB7B0AF3D69F061BCF9067C1E673E479705916E3835| |7F9DE405B95C8CFDE7EF66E65EF56F66EFF01EE485515CF58B5C1DC2678648B7C4E| |BE003B5F824BD23B04AF0ABDB2CF6DA83589C2CEA22D23FC13F374FE22F7C0AE7DD| |2023F49750D3D35F474D1D3434F0F3D3DF4AC4B751DCF58B72788FA556F83E6E47A| |77315FEF359B3EE591053570CE86FBF0EBA235D1DFC41DC5B8A3187714E7FDF92C5| |52D98CFDBB282FB1B5F25D7C081757283DC0437C4D5863E5ADB3BE91D3554EC2D68| |C80C51CE15E5ECBB1275E07E1A1D0F708DC187E412B90C1E7D046E4A75379F81EE3| |1814F57D33ADE197BE6BE3DD6EF931678CC7EEA6C6AA40734C5DB4F6F7F0AFB3A3E| |428E9227C0E131F224D82D674AF0BC8984428E7C2C03253967D25EBEEC604BA221E| |C560DB16ED2387857AD76E3E09DB743CB52D75DCA94C172513447D90E1CBCB9543E| |B8949DBF8A47EBD29DA737725584B8F086E6C41FFF753DF138DAA0ABFF904B19762| |9232E65D4A5F823F29F01C5FA0D171DF251| |-------------------------------------------------------------------|

Do not slot / proc Dark Regen for damage. In my opinion. I was in a very stupid TF last night cranked 4/8 with really just two of us working. Dark Regen (normally ignored) saved my bacon a lot. It does shit damage and needs to be slotted for some recharge and accuracy. i use a 5 slot obliteration that caps its damage but the set was chosen for set bonuses, not damage. if there was a heal set that had better bonuses i would switch it right now.

As long as this got booted up the time chain I have been running a revised version of the build for months. Which I need to revise (again) to get more slots in Gloom and maybe tighten a few things up. But this is a beast (with mystic flight) This Villain build was built using Mids Reborn 3.0.4.7 https://github.com/Reborn-Team/MidsReborn Click this DataLink to open the build! Snarky 2.2: Level 50 Magic Brute Primary Power Set: Dark Melee Secondary Power Set: Dark Armor Power Pool: Sorcery Power Pool: Fighting Power Pool: Speed Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery Villain Profile: Level 1: Smite -- Hct-Dmg(A), Hct-Dmg/Rchg(3), Hct-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(3), Hct-Acc/Rchg(5), Hct-Dmg/EndRdx(5), Hct-Dam%(25) Level 1: Dark Embrace -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(7), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(7), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(9), GldArm-3defTpProc(9) Level 2: Death Shroud -- SprUnrFur-Acc/Dmg(A), SprUnrFur-Dmg/Rchg(11), SprUnrFur-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(11), SprUnrFur-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(13), SprUnrFur-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(13), SprUnrFur-Rchg/+Regen/+End(15) Level 4: Murky Cloud -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(21), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(21), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(23), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(23) Level 6: Shadow Maul -- Arm-Dmg(A), Arm-Dmg/Rchg(15), Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(17), Arm-Acc/Rchg(17), Arm-Dmg/EndRdx(19), Arm-Dam%(19) Level 8: Mystic Flight -- BlsoftheZ-ResKB(A) Level 10: Obsidian Shield -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(25), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(27), UnbGrd-Max HP%(27) Level 12: Siphon Life -- SprBrtFur-Acc/Dmg(A), SprBrtFur-Dmg/Rchg(29), SprBrtFur-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(31), SprBrtFur-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(31), SprBrtFur-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(31), SprBrtFur-Rech/Fury%(33) Level 14: Touch of Fear -- CldSns-%Dam(A) Level 16: Dark Regeneration -- Obl-Dmg(A), Obl-Acc/Rchg(33), Obl-Dmg/Rchg(33), Obl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(34), Obl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(34) Level 18: Dark Consumption -- Obl-Dmg(A), Obl-Acc/Rchg(34), Obl-Dmg/Rchg(36), Obl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(36), Obl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(36) Level 20: Cloak of Darkness -- Ksm-ToHit+(A), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(29), Rct-ResDam%(42), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(50) Level 22: Kick -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A) Level 24: Tough -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(37), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(37), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(37) Level 26: Soul Drain -- SprAvl-Acc/Dmg(A), SprAvl-Dmg/EndRdx(39), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(39), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(39), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(40), SprAvl-Rchg/KDProc(40) Level 28: Cloak of Fear -- HO:Endo(A) Level 30: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A) Level 32: Midnight Grasp -- SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg(A), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx(40), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(42), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(42), SprBlsCol-Rchg/HoldProc(45) Level 35: Oppressive Gloom -- HO:Endo(A) Level 38: Soul Tentacles -- Bmbdmt-Dam(A), Bmbdmt-Acc/Rech/End(43), Bmbdmt-Dam/Rech(45), Bmbdmt-Acc/Dam/Rech(46), Bmbdmt-Acc/Dam/Rech/End(46), Bmbdmt-+FireDmg(46) Level 41: Dark Obliteration -- Rgn-Dmg(A), Rgn-Dmg/Rchg(48), Rgn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(48), Rgn-Acc/Rchg(48), Rgn-Dmg/EndRdx(50), Rgn-Knock%(50) Level 44: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(45) Level 47: Gloom -- Apc-Dam%(A) Level 49: Soul Transfer -- RechRdx-I(A) Level 1: Fury Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A) Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A) Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A) Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A) Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A) Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), Mrc-Rcvry+(43), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(43) Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A) Level 4: Ninja Run ------------ | Copy & Paste this data into Mids Reborn : Hero Designer to view the build | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| |MxDz;1440;653;1306;HEX;| |78DA6594594F53511485CF1D6A6D6929C8D032C93C562B2D88730C8A98A84D48487| |C250D5CB1B152D242228F3EF8AE1263A2CCEAABBFC81FE083808A468DC275DFB396| |A8B94D6EBEEE75F73A7B9F7D7A9A7D3016797BFDE16565545C2DE4CAE5A92BA5C50| |52790CDCDE6A72DA55478722E57BAB7D49649658212D6EBD75359A7E038A9317983| |AF09C863CE1D67AECC17A3A5FBC5928A4C148B85D464B134ED9496A23A18CFCFDE5| |DC8CFCDFE1F859138EF3833F16BF3F9E914969C2C2E16A6B2B9F282D813D240B73C| |1FD49F8F1B503DA652E990327BC93ED0EE2707C044127CE1D90CEDB5D5174B6B47B| |E92DFC0A3DFC90CF8D2B3C0133022B6D6C251B2128CC4C82AB0B21A5C1197C57A16| |EBD5B25E2DEBD5B35E7D5C125B426A5BB203DC5FE02CFAAE3C07569D272F80C72E9| |297C0651950105E157C076D55A2107AB042EC21C11E1AD943E30F7057B22AB8D78A| |0D68CD9BE0F12DF215F91A6C7B03EE882BCADAD1F7A6DECB9A44313D70D78EFD443| |F6DBFC87DB0FD8074C14F925D4D4F353DEDF474D2D3494F273DEB925DC33DD6EC2B| |5DBBB9CED0EFFAF7D05FFAA6C7A032654075C855758FE0B7448BD31FE78CBA38A32| |ECEA88BE7F459B21AD05FA06105E7DCB34AAE91EB60EF06B9096E88AB89336A1A51| |FAB06C795AD84F0B7BDE93A8157976EB63AEF104EC7F4A2E83279E819B92DDC1B53| |BF4DA969AB17067BC5EBBF7913770409F0B9EF47E6D1E0DD2041DF1F6D1DB97C19C| |4E0D91C3E469303D429E013B644F49ECC9482615EA91DE1F4B8A7DA6D2C8DF92681| |0335583CC1BB70FEFAADB6C1FDE792F745D75CBA74CD84C17C5D0CA76F8F0E652D9| |F129BB7F15D368F74ED856033744E815DE3674FCF15FD7731339BEFA833E25ED538| |67CCAB04F0955C97F0614F737EEE5F0F8| |-------------------------------------------------------------------|

I drop into 1st person (rarely) when I am solo stealthing complicated maps for glowies and hard to find stuff. caves can be a nightmare, as we all know, because of forced camera angle shifts. 1st person avoids that. it helps me zip through tunnels (i use non boosted flight or mystic flight) because i can better judge projections and terrain features. However in combat I find it impossible. I need to know how many enemies, position, abilities, etc. 1st person robs me of everything useful and gives me a close up view of a Freakshow Tank's grill instead. Hard Pass.

Certain powersets like Energy with low damage high knockback powers would have too great an advantage. I think the Devs need to look at nerfing that.

Here it is. I need to change a few things based on my playstyle. Touch of fear is useful. In really oddball situations. I used it to keep RoMs healing nictus off balance and killed it. Don't ask it was a horribly stupid ITF. But the power does stack with cloak of fear and hits 5 under the new rules. I need to figure a way to Enhance Gloom. I use it A LOT. Even if that means using Smites slots to do it. Then of course, any brilliant optimizations would be great too lol. it looks like I should try to softcap S/L Not a big worry for me. While not the Tankiest build the Stealth + Fear Aura +Stun Aura +tohit debuffs on everything does a decent job of damage mitigation even in....well, remarkably stupid ITFs and Farms. If anything I would like to increase resistance while keeping/enhancing global recharge. Thinking all night. Under pressure I would have loved Rune of Protection last night. I could drop gloom and pick up clunky Arcane bolt. (sniping surgeons is my favorite use for the power. trying to be ranged is not effective so it might improve my playstyle to drop Gloom. Arcane Bolt has KD and a Sup Winter with -speed / Rech would harass better ) Since a one slotted gloom on a Brute is meh at best this is a possible trade out that doesnt give up much. Then, drop Touch of Fear and Grab Rune of Protection. I rarely use Touch of Fear. In tough fights I would love Rune. I would not need to slot Rune for Recharge. The build is a Recharge monster. In effect I could drop in one of the resist Procs and GAIN a slot somewhere else on the build... I am thinking adding an enhancer to Cloak of Fear. Get a proc for damage and the two set gives a 2.25% energy/Neg Resistance.... Both small improvements, yet it all adds. And the rolling added Resistance which would be up 50% time.... This Villain build was built using Mids Reborn 3.0.4.7 https://github.com/Reborn-Team/MidsReborn Click this DataLink to open the build! Snarky 2.2: Level 50 Magic Brute Primary Power Set: Dark Melee Secondary Power Set: Dark Armor Power Pool: Sorcery Power Pool: Fighting Power Pool: Speed Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery Villain Profile: Level 1: Smite -- Hct-Dmg(A), Hct-Dmg/Rchg(3), Hct-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(3), Hct-Acc/Rchg(5), Hct-Dmg/EndRdx(5), Hct-Dam%(25) Level 1: Dark Embrace -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(7), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(7), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(9), GldArm-3defTpProc(9) Level 2: Death Shroud -- SprUnrFur-Acc/Dmg(A), SprUnrFur-Dmg/Rchg(11), SprUnrFur-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(11), SprUnrFur-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(13), SprUnrFur-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(13), SprUnrFur-Rchg/+Regen/+End(15) Level 4: Murky Cloud -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(21), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(21), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(23), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(23) Level 6: Shadow Maul -- Arm-Dmg(A), Arm-Dmg/Rchg(15), Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(17), Arm-Acc/Rchg(17), Arm-Dmg/EndRdx(19), Arm-Dam%(19) Level 8: Mystic Flight -- BlsoftheZ-ResKB(A) Level 10: Obsidian Shield -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(25), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(27), UnbGrd-Max HP%(27) Level 12: Siphon Life -- SprBrtFur-Acc/Dmg(A), SprBrtFur-Dmg/Rchg(29), SprBrtFur-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(31), SprBrtFur-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(31), SprBrtFur-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(31), SprBrtFur-Rech/Fury%(33) Level 14: Touch of Fear -- CldSns-%Dam(A) Level 16: Dark Regeneration -- Obl-Dmg(A), Obl-Acc/Rchg(33), Obl-Dmg/Rchg(33), Obl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(34), Obl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(34) Level 18: Dark Consumption -- Obl-Dmg(A), Obl-Acc/Rchg(34), Obl-Dmg/Rchg(36), Obl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(36), Obl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(36) Level 20: Cloak of Darkness -- Ksm-ToHit+(A), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(29), Rct-ResDam%(42), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(50) Level 22: Kick -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A) Level 24: Tough -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(37), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(37), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(37) Level 26: Soul Drain -- SprAvl-Acc/Dmg(A), SprAvl-Dmg/EndRdx(39), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(39), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(39), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(40), SprAvl-Rchg/KDProc(40) Level 28: Cloak of Fear -- HO:Endo(A) Level 30: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A) Level 32: Midnight Grasp -- SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg(A), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx(40), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(42), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(42), SprBlsCol-Rchg/HoldProc(45) Level 35: Oppressive Gloom -- HO:Endo(A) Level 38: Soul Tentacles -- Bmbdmt-Dam(A), Bmbdmt-Acc/Rech/End(43), Bmbdmt-Dam/Rech(45), Bmbdmt-Acc/Dam/Rech(46), Bmbdmt-Acc/Dam/Rech/End(46), Bmbdmt-+FireDmg(46) Level 41: Dark Obliteration -- Rgn-Dmg(A), Rgn-Dmg/Rchg(48), Rgn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(48), Rgn-Acc/Rchg(48), Rgn-Dmg/EndRdx(50), Rgn-Knock%(50) Level 44: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(45) Level 47: Gloom -- Apc-Dam%(A) Level 49: Soul Transfer -- RechRdx-I(A) Level 1: Fury Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A) Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A) Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A) Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A) Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A) Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), Mrc-Rcvry+(43), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(43) Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A) Level 4: Ninja Run ------------ | Copy & Paste this data into Mids Reborn : Hero Designer to view the build | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| |MxDz;1440;653;1306;HEX;| |78DA6594594F53511485CF1D6A6D6929C8D032C93C562B2D88730C8A98A84D48487| |C250D5CB1B152D242228F3EF8AE1263A2CCEAABBFC81FE083808A468DC275DFB396| |A8B94D6EBEEE75F73A7B9F7D7A9A7D3016797BFDE16565545C2DE4CAE5A92BA5C50| |52790CDCDE6A72DA55478722E57BAB7D49649658212D6EBD75359A7E038A9317983| |AF09C863CE1D67AECC17A3A5FBC5928A4C148B85D464B134ED9496A23A18CFCFDE5| |DC8CFCDFE1F859138EF3833F16BF3F9E914969C2C2E16A6B2B9F282D813D240B73C| |1FD49F8F1B503DA652E990327BC93ED0EE2707C044127CE1D90CEDB5D5174B6B47B| |E92DFC0A3DFC90CF8D2B3C0133022B6D6C251B2128CC4C82AB0B21A5C1197C57A16| |EBD5B25E2DEBD5B35E7D5C125B426A5BB203DC5FE02CFAAE3C07569D272F80C72E9| |297C0651950105E157C076D55A2107AB042EC21C11E1AD943E30F7057B22AB8D78A| |0D68CD9BE0F12DF215F91A6C7B03EE882BCADAD1F7A6DECB9A44313D70D78EFD443| |F6DBFC87DB0FD8074C14F925D4D4F353DEDF474D2D3494F273DEB925DC33DD6EC2B| |5DBBB9CED0EFFAF7D05FFAA6C7A032654075C855758FE0B7448BD31FE78CBA38A32| |ECEA88BE7F459B21AD05FA06105E7DCB34AAE91EB60EF06B9096E88AB89336A1A51| |FAB06C795AD84F0B7BDE93A8157976EB63AEF104EC7F4A2E83279E819B92DDC1B53| |BF4DA969AB17067BC5EBBF7913770409F0B9EF47E6D1E0DD2041DF1F6D1DB97C19C| |4E0D91C3E469303D429E013B644F49ECC9482615EA91DE1F4B8A7DA6D2C8DF92681| |0335583CC1BB70FEFAADB6C1FDE792F745D75CBA74CD84C17C5D0CA76F8F0E652D9| |F129BB7F15D368F74ED856033744E815DE3674FCF15FD7731339BEFA833E25ED538| |67CCAB04F0955C97F0614F737EEE5F0F8| |-------------------------------------------------------------------|

which is why i street hunt Atlas incarnated. you take your time and pick your fights that way.

Come the war Come the avarice Come the war Come hell Come attrition Come the reek of bones Come attrition Come hell And this is why Why we fight Why we lie awake This is why This is why we fight And when we die We will die With our arms unbound This is why This is why we fight Come hell Bride of quiet Bride of all unquiet things Bride of quiet Bride of hell Come the archers Come the infantry Come the archers Of hell And this is why Why we fight Why we lie awake This is why This is why we fight And when we die We will die With our arms unbound This is why This is why we fight Come hell So come to me Come to me now Lay your arms around me This is why This is why we fight Come hell

I would love to see it. My main is a dark dark Brute. 800 badges in and probably time for a review of ideas on changing the build up (and/or adding a second build)

thanks at least now i know to eyeball it. i can carry the 1+% in my head as i build. the 15% i had no idea was there really threw me. if i built tanks more instead of brutes i might have noticed. i was already in awe of the armor differences. I tried recreating this build on a Brute, inverted. Not even close. So on the Brute I moved to Purple sets and a high recharge build with Hasten Perma. Which gives Soul Drain perma. I am thinking the Brute will be way more powerful than the +8% damage I have heard bandied around. Although the Tank is insanely more armored.

This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.0.4.7 https://github.com/Reborn-Team/MidsReborn Click this DataLink to open the build! Tank Mage: Level 50 Magic Tanker Primary Power Set: Invulnerability Secondary Power Set: Dark Melee Power Pool: Fighting Power Pool: Leaping Power Pool: Sorcery Power Pool: Speed Ancillary Pool: Energy Mastery Hero Profile: Level 1: Resist Physical Damage -- ImpArm-ResPsi(A), Ags-Psi/Status(3), GldArm-3defTpProc(3) Level 1: Shadow Punch -- SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg(A), SprMghoft-Dmg/Rchg(5), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(5), SprMghoft-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(7), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(7), SprMghoft-Rchg/Res%(9) Level 2: Temp Invulnerability -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(9), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(11), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(11), UnbGrd-Max HP%(13) Level 4: Shadow Maul -- Arm-Dmg(A), Arm-Dmg/Rchg(15), Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(17), Arm-Acc/Rchg(17), Arm-Dmg/EndRdx(19), Arm-Dam%(19) Level 6: Dull Pain -- DctWnd-Heal/Rchg(A), NmnCnv-Heal/Rchg(21), Pnc-Heal/Rchg(21) Level 8: Resist Elements -- RctArm-ResDam(A), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx(23), RctArm-ResDam/Rchg(23), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(25) Level 10: Taunt -- PrfZng-Dam%(A) Level 12: Unyielding -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(25), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(27), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(27) Level 14: Resist Energies -- RctArm-ResDam(A), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx(29), RctArm-ResDam/Rchg(29), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(31) Level 16: Kick -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A) Level 18: Invincibility -- ShlWal-Def(A), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(31), ShlWal-Def/Rchg(31), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(33), Rct-ResDam%(33) Level 20: Siphon Life -- SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg(A), SprGntFis-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(33), SprGntFis-Rchg/+Absorb(34), TchofDth-Dam%(34), TchofDth-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(34), TchofDth-Dmg/Rchg(36) Level 22: Tough -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), ImpArm-ResPsi(36) Level 24: Weave -- ShlWal-Def(A), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(36), ShlWal-Def/Rchg(37), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(37) Level 26: Tough Hide -- ShlWal-Def(A), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(37), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(39), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(39) Level 28: Soul Drain -- SprAvl-Acc/Dmg(A), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(39), SprAvl-Rchg/KDProc(40), SprGntFis-Dmg/Rchg(40), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(40), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(42) Level 30: Combat Jumping -- ShlWal-Def(A), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(42), ShlWal-Def/Rchg(42), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(43) Level 32: Mystic Flight -- WntGif-ResSlow(A) Level 35: Dark Consumption -- Erd-Acc/Rchg(A), Erd-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43), Erd-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(43), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(45), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(45), SprAvl-Dmg/EndRdx(45) Level 38: Midnight Grasp -- SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg(A), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx(46), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(46), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(46), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(48), SprBlsCol-Rchg/HoldProc(48) Level 41: Arcane Bolt -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A) Level 44: Rune of Protection -- UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(A), GldArm-RechRes(50), Ags-ResDam/Rchg(50), TtnCtn-ResDam/Rchg(50) Level 47: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(48) Level 49: Conserve Power -- RechRdx-I(A) Level 1: Gauntlet Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A) Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A) Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A) Level 2: Swift -- Flight-I(A) 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*facepalm. grrr. I could not understand why Defense walked itself home all across the board. Sigh. How the F you change that again? (found it) Thankfully the solution is easy. Swap out a Superior Blistering cold for Hecatomb in Midnight Grasp.

Here is a comparison I worked on tonight. Given what you folks have told me. There is NO comparison. Invul / Dark Tank, Money no object...versus Dark / Invul Brute...Money no object. The Tank is unkillable. Maybe if you dropped a few buildings, simultaneously on it. Tim,e it right though or it will hit Dull Pain and you are in for a long fight. The Brute is TOUGH. But a lot of places where it can be harmed. The Tank can now be incarnated for PURE Damage. Because it is unkillable. The Brute can settle for very very good survivability and get damage. Or use Incarnate powers to get the survivability the Tank already has. This Villain build was built using Mids Reborn 3.0.4.7 https://github.com/Reborn-Team/MidsReborn Click this DataLink to open the build! Brute Mage: Level 50 Magic Brute Primary Power Set: Dark Melee Secondary Power Set: Invulnerability Power Pool: Fighting Power Pool: Sorcery Power Pool: Speed Power Pool: Leaping Ancillary Pool: Energy Mastery Villain Profile: Level 1: Shadow Punch -- SprBrtFur-Acc/Dmg(A), SprBrtFur-Dmg/Rchg(43), SprBrtFur-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43), SprBrtFur-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(43), SprBrtFur-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(45), SprBrtFur-Rech/Fury%(45) Level 1: Resist Physical Damage -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(7), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(9), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(9) Level 2: Temp Invulnerability -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(3), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(3), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(5) Level 4: Dull Pain -- DctWnd-Heal/Rchg(A), NmnCnv-Heal/Rchg(5), Pnc-Heal/Rchg(7) Level 6: Shadow Maul -- Arm-Dmg(A), Arm-Dmg/Rchg(13), Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(15), Arm-Acc/Rchg(15), Arm-Dmg/EndRdx(19), Arm-Dam%(21) Level 8: Siphon Life -- SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg(A), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx(40), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(40), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(40), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(42) Level 10: Resist Elements -- RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctArm-ResDam/Rchg(11), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(11), RctArm-ResDam(13) Level 12: Kick -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A) Level 14: Tough -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(45), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(46), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(46) Level 16: Unyielding -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(17), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(17), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(19) Level 18: Dark Consumption -- SprAvl-Acc/Dmg(A), SprAvl-Dmg/EndRdx(21), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(25), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(27), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(27), SprAvl-Rchg/KDProc(31) Level 20: Resist Energies -- ImpArm-ResPsi(A), GldArm-3defTpProc(46), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(48) Level 22: Weave -- ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(A), ShlWal-Def/Rchg(23), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(23), ShlWal-Def(25), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(48) Level 24: Mystic Flight -- WntGif-ResSlow(A) Level 26: Soul Drain -- SprUnrFur-Acc/Dmg(A), SprUnrFur-Dmg/Rchg(31), SprUnrFur-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(34), SprUnrFur-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(37), SprUnrFur-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(37), SprUnrFur-Rchg/+Regen/+End(37) Level 28: Invincibility -- ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(A), ShlWal-Def/Rchg(29), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(29), ShlWal-Def(31), Rct-ResDam%(42) Level 30: Arcane Bolt -- Apc-Dmg(A), Apc-Dmg/Rchg(48), Apc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(50), Apc-Dmg/EndRdx(50), Apc-Dam%(50) Level 32: Midnight Grasp -- Hct-Dmg(A), Hct-Dmg/Rchg(33), Hct-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), Hct-Acc/Rchg(33), Hct-Dmg/EndRdx(34), Hct-Dam%(34) Level 35: Tough Hide -- ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(A), ShlWal-Def/Rchg(36), ShlWal-Def(36), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(36) Level 38: Rune of Protection -- UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(A), GldArm-RechRes(39), Ags-ResDam/Rchg(39), TtnCtn-ResDam/Rchg(39) Level 41: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(42) Level 44: Superior Conditioning -- PrfShf-End%(A) Level 47: Physical Perfection -- NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(A) Level 49: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A) Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A) Level 1: Fury Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A) Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A) Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A) Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A) Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A) Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A) ------------ | Copy & Paste this data into Mids Reborn : Hero Designer to view the build | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| |MxDz;1344;637;1274;HEX;| |78DA6593CB4F135118C5EFB45390D202E5514068A1C5BE281DA871E133265A20284| |D4848DC36B55E6B63D392B618BB74E15EC1E8C607F8D8FA27F8F6AF31880A4677F5| |EB9C1324A1E9F4D7EFDCF3DD39F7DE99ECDD8CE7EDE2BD8BCAE8BE5CCED7EBB94BB| |5F5867665F3C552C1A99472DBF5A4D4BA534ABF5DE6B2BAACB595C9D76EE36F0072| |46DFD495BAB6962A77D6CB155DCB5F2F954B8DA6F2AE54AB656BA154BCD528558A1| |EBB5AADD60ABAD674A358D3FA06F4659D5F13D3E8FC5AA960CDCB24C5662E9BAF37| |C48B6C23126342AE6F7229A3FDD372A92DC99A36D5F436F9927C05CEBC26DF80EFF| |EF73AD5BE68315375FCC6D8B13FE45FF07DDB4AAFB10FCD41AF835E93DE0FE26AEF| |9A781DCEAC81B155B02308CF8E8CBA98DB75DA616B9E3360CF59F21CD87F1E1CBC0| |0EE4A5727E6373B1F98B6167B486E909B60E211F851DC5DCCDF1534ECB5BA27C810| |E809830E99BC1B5ED57D1FF7748AE665BF97EB9FE1FA535C7F8AEBFF24AE5E7A7BE| |9EDA3B78FDE7E7A7F8ACB676F6CCBE57B8AAC83CFC091E7E0F117E41618DC063F4B| |D700EEE31848207BEA24E69D1D963A20FB2EB987E031871630E65F2497C0912BEC1| |9C2196D46941AC6FEAAE1318CFD926A9439473DCCE105433DE0895EB28FF4815FA4| |6B0CBDE618338C33C33833049921B1076E4886007307667006B329306D9173641AD| |C6BBF137CA626A2D02663649C4C80A16932097E95AE30CF2CCC8C53CC38C56C5357| |C1C7922D82FD7146789ED153641A7B184D8261D9FF38E635E2498535925D3EA5927| |CCE924FF80E886651B3AE610EBFCC31476D8E67346E2A7E5AF2958F5A300FDEE6D6| |F291D1159383A218B6B2E33E78A3A9EC1E564258CFF723AE1F8715A6FE07A97FCC9| |0| |-------------------------------------------------------------------| This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.0.4.7 https://github.com/Reborn-Team/MidsReborn Click this DataLink to open the build! Tank Mage: Level 50 Magic Tanker Primary Power Set: Invulnerability Secondary Power Set: Dark Melee Power Pool: Fighting Power Pool: Leaping Power Pool: Sorcery Power Pool: Speed Ancillary Pool: Energy Mastery Hero Profile: Level 1: Resist Physical Damage -- ImpArm-ResPsi(A), Ags-Psi/Status(3), GldArm-3defTpProc(3) Level 1: Shadow Punch -- SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg(A), SprMghoft-Dmg/Rchg(5), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(5), SprMghoft-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(7), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(7), SprMghoft-Rchg/Res%(9) Level 2: Temp Invulnerability -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(9), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(11), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(11), UnbGrd-Max HP%(13) Level 4: Shadow Maul -- Arm-Dmg(A), Arm-Dmg/Rchg(15), Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(17), Arm-Acc/Rchg(17), Arm-Dmg/EndRdx(19), Arm-Dam%(19) Level 6: Dull Pain -- DctWnd-Heal/Rchg(A), NmnCnv-Heal/Rchg(21), Pnc-Heal/Rchg(21) Level 8: Resist Elements -- RctArm-ResDam(A), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx(23), RctArm-ResDam/Rchg(23), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(25) Level 10: Taunt -- PrfZng-Dam%(A) Level 12: Unyielding -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(25), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(27), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(27) Level 14: Resist Energies -- RctArm-ResDam(A), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx(29), RctArm-ResDam/Rchg(29), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(31) Level 16: Kick -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A) Level 18: Invincibility -- ShlWal-Def(A), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(31), ShlWal-Def/Rchg(31), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(33), Rct-ResDam%(33) Level 20: Siphon Life -- SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg(A), SprGntFis-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(33), SprGntFis-Rchg/+Absorb(34), TchofDth-Dam%(34), TchofDth-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(34), TchofDth-Dmg/Rchg(36) Level 22: Tough -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), ImpArm-ResPsi(36) Level 24: Weave -- ShlWal-Def(A), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(36), ShlWal-Def/Rchg(37), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(37) Level 26: Tough Hide -- ShlWal-Def(A), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(37), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(39), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(39) Level 28: Soul Drain -- SprAvl-Acc/Dmg(A), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(39), SprAvl-Rchg/KDProc(40), SprGntFis-Dmg/Rchg(40), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(40), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(42) Level 30: Combat Jumping -- ShlWal-Def(A), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(42), ShlWal-Def/Rchg(42), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(43) Level 32: Mystic Flight -- WntGif-ResSlow(A) Level 35: Dark Consumption -- Erd-Acc/Rchg(A), Erd-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43), Erd-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(43), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(45), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(45), SprAvl-Dmg/EndRdx(45) Level 38: Midnight Grasp -- Hct-Dmg(A), Hct-Dmg/Rchg(46), Hct-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(46), Hct-Acc/Rchg(46), Hct-Dmg/EndRdx(48), Hct-Dam%(48) Level 41: Arcane Bolt -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A) Level 44: Rune of Protection -- UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(A), GldArm-RechRes(50), Ags-ResDam/Rchg(50), TtnCtn-ResDam/Rchg(50) Level 47: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(48) Level 49: Conserve Power -- RechRdx-I(A) Level 1: Gauntlet Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A) Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A) Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A) Level 2: Swift -- Flight-I(A) Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A) Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), 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Whatever one i am currently on...

Okay, I re-worked this onto a Invulnerable / Dark Melee. I do believe it is tougher than the Invul / SS and I would hazard meaner as well. This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.0.4.7 https://github.com/Reborn-Team/MidsReborn Click this DataLink to open the build! Tank Mage: Level 50 Magic Tanker Primary Power Set: Invulnerability Secondary Power Set: Dark Melee Power Pool: Fighting Power Pool: Leaping Power Pool: Sorcery Power Pool: Speed Ancillary Pool: Energy Mastery Hero Profile: Level 1: Resist Physical Damage -- ImpArm-ResPsi(A), Ags-Psi/Status(3), GldArm-3defTpProc(3) Level 1: Shadow Punch -- SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg(A), SprMghoft-Dmg/Rchg(5), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(5), SprMghoft-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(7), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(7), SprMghoft-Rchg/Res%(9) Level 2: Temp Invulnerability -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(9), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(11), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(11), UnbGrd-Max HP%(13) Level 4: Shadow Maul -- Arm-Dmg(A), Arm-Dmg/Rchg(15), Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(17), Arm-Acc/Rchg(17), Arm-Dmg/EndRdx(19), Arm-Dam%(19) Level 6: Dull Pain -- DctWnd-Heal/Rchg(A), NmnCnv-Heal/Rchg(21), Pnc-Heal/Rchg(21) Level 8: Resist Elements -- RctArm-ResDam(A), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx(23), RctArm-ResDam/Rchg(23), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(25) Level 10: Taunt -- PrfZng-Dam%(A) Level 12: Unyielding -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(25), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(27), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(27) Level 14: Resist Energies -- RctArm-ResDam(A), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx(29), RctArm-ResDam/Rchg(29), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(31) Level 16: Kick -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A) Level 18: Invincibility -- ShlWal-Def(A), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(31), ShlWal-Def/Rchg(31), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(33), Rct-ResDam%(33) Level 20: Siphon Life -- SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg(A), SprGntFis-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(33), SprGntFis-Rchg/+Absorb(34), TchofDth-Dam%(34), TchofDth-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(34), TchofDth-Dmg/Rchg(36) Level 22: Tough -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), ImpArm-ResPsi(36) Level 24: Weave -- ShlWal-Def(A), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(36), ShlWal-Def/Rchg(37), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(37) Level 26: Tough Hide -- ShlWal-Def(A), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(37), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(39), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(39) Level 28: Soul Drain -- SprAvl-Acc/Dmg(A), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(39), SprAvl-Rchg/KDProc(40), SprGntFis-Dmg/Rchg(40), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(40), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(42) Level 30: Combat Jumping -- ShlWal-Def(A), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(42), ShlWal-Def/Rchg(42), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(43) Level 32: Mystic Flight -- WntGif-ResSlow(A) Level 35: Dark Consumption -- Erd-Acc/Rchg(A), Erd-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43), Erd-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(43), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(45), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(45), SprAvl-Dmg/EndRdx(45) Level 38: Midnight Grasp -- Hct-Dmg(A), Hct-Dmg/Rchg(46), Hct-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(46), Hct-Acc/Rchg(46), Hct-Dmg/EndRdx(48), Hct-Dam%(48) Level 41: Arcane Bolt -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A) Level 44: Rune of Protection -- UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(A), GldArm-RechRes(50), Ags-ResDam/Rchg(50), TtnCtn-ResDam/Rchg(50) Level 47: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(48) Level 49: Conserve Power -- RechRdx-I(A) Level 1: Gauntlet Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A) Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A) Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A) Level 2: Swift -- Flight-I(A) Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A) Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), 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okay, i just realized i quoted you from the general discussion before realizing this was your thread. now that is funny. also seems you already have seen many of these answers...