Solarverse Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 I keep hearing players talk about another DFB XP nerf. However, I can't find anything about it in the patch notes. Have people lost their minds or was there another DFB XP nerf? SFX and Music Mods by Solarverse (Consolidated) WP/EM God Mode Tank Guide and Build Help Support the Return of Missing Code for Sound Files! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troo Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 Three people in a DFB last night were saying the same. I didn't notice (I also was not using 2xp). "Homecoming is not perfect but it is still better than the alternative.. at least so far" - Unknown (Wise words Unknown!) Si vis pacem, para bellum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lead Game Master GM Korvin Posted January 30, 2020 Lead Game Master Share Posted January 30, 2020 I imagine they're referring to the changes back last year in May, found here. To my knowledge, the trial has not been modified further. Interested in supporting Homecoming? Consider applying to become a Game Master! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solarverse Posted January 30, 2020 Author Share Posted January 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, GM Korvin said: I imagine they're referring to the changes back last year in May, found here. To my knowledge, the trial has not been modified further. That's what I thought, but I didn't want to tell them otherwise without knowing for sure. I'll be sure to pass this info along in game to prevent silly rumors. Thanks for the reply. SFX and Music Mods by Solarverse (Consolidated) WP/EM God Mode Tank Guide and Build Help Support the Return of Missing Code for Sound Files! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEDarkTyger Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 Perceptional bias and the power of suggestion. Many people assume something or other is going to be "stealth nerfed" every patch and will convince themselves their favorite thing got nerfed even if the numbers don't parse out to support the perception. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clave Dark 5 Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 8 hours ago, THEDarkTyger said: Perceptional bias and the power of suggestion. Many people assume something or other is going to be "stealth nerfed" every patch and will convince themselves their favorite thing got nerfed even if the numbers don't parse out to support the perception. The "secret persecution" fallacy is a weird attribute of the age. Tim "Black Scorpion" Sweeney: Matt (Posi) used to say that players would find the shortest path to the rewards even if it was a completely terrible play experience that would push them away from the game... ╔═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════╗ Clave's Sure-Fire Secrets to Enjoying City Of Heroes Ignore those farming chores, skip your market homework, play any power sets that you want, and ignore anyone who says otherwise. This game isn't hard work, it's easy! Go have fun! ╚═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════╝ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarahTheM1 Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 (edited) Huh. Y'know, I did some DFBs the other day and it did seem like the XP wasn't as extravagant as it usually was. Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if the patch caused XP boosters and the in-built DFB bonus XP effect to conflict again. That was a problem back when they were sorting things out with DFB originally. Edited January 30, 2020 by SarahTheM1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0th Power Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 1 hour ago, SarahTheM1 said: Huh. Y'know, I did some DFBs the other day and it did seem like the XP wasn't as extravagant as it usually was. Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if the patch caused XP boosters and the in-built DFB bonus XP effect to conflict again. That was a problem back when they were sorting things out with DFB originally. I did one the other day and it seemed as if i didn't level as much as i normally do. But i shook it off and kept playing I am Pro-Human I invented Combat Teleport I invented K'ong (More proof here too) Battle Rifle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HelBlaiz Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 (edited) Before the patch, double xp on a dfb run would net you level eight. Now it barely achieves level seven. A full four runs would manage I believe level 16 to 18 (can't remember for certain). Four runs now only get level 14, I think. If there WAS a stealth nerf, all they've done is made players need one more dfb run to qualify for a dib or blockbuster event. Not the result I'd imagine anyone would want. Edited January 30, 2020 by HelBlaiz autocorrect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City Council Jimmy Posted January 30, 2020 City Council Share Posted January 30, 2020 There's not been any intentional change to DFB, however... 3 hours ago, SarahTheM1 said: Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if the patch caused XP boosters and the in-built DFB bonus XP effect to conflict again. That was a problem back when they were sorting things out with DFB originally. This is certainly possible as the patch touched every single power in the game. If someone puts up a bug report thread we'll look into it at some point Got time to spare? Want to see Homecoming thrive? Consider volunteering as a Game Master! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brutal Justice Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 I ran a quick dfb last night and came out lower level than I am used to. I had to afk for a couple minutes so I was a couple mobs behind during the vahz phase. Is it possible to be out of range for xp? I never run with a booster. Normally I go in at lvl 1 and come out at lvl 6. A second run gets me to lvl 8. Last night I went in at lvl 2.5 and came out at lvl 5. I’ll run some more tonight without going afk just to make sure. But that’s what I saw last night. I normally run 2 dfbs to get to lvl 8 then start a positron tf. That’s pretty much my toon progression for all new alts so I’m fairly familiar with how much xp I normally net. 1 Guardian survivor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarahTheM1 Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Jimmy said: There's not been any intentional change to DFB, however... This is certainly possible as the patch touched every single power in the game. If someone puts up a bug report thread we'll look into it at some point k 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riverdusk Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 19 hours ago, THEDarkTyger said: Perceptional bias and the power of suggestion. Many people assume something or other is going to be "stealth nerfed" every patch and will convince themselves their favorite thing got nerfed even if the numbers don't parse out to support the perception. I remember the meme from the old live days of "accuracy has been nerfed" because someone would claim that after every single patch. 😄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironblade Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 On 1/30/2020 at 7:02 AM, Clave Dark 5 said: The "secret persecution" fallacy is a weird attribute of the age. What's that supposed to mean? Is that directed at me? 😛 3 Originally on Infinity. I have Ironblade on every shard. - My only AE arc: The Origin of Mark IV (ID 48002) Link to the story of Toggle Man, since I keep having to track down my original post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snarky Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 (edited) I was in game last night and a friend. Lets call him Mike told me it was bugged and nerfed hard so there you go Edited January 31, 2020 by Snarky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR_Mechano Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 (edited) Well there is one way to test this, having run DFB often enough I know that a single DFB with the double XP boost active could take you from 1-8. I'll make a new character and see if I can get a DFB run and report back on the findings. Edit: Ok just ran a DFB on a fresh throwaway level 1 and the result is... ...Level 7 Something is DEFINITELY going wonky with the DFB Trial, as mentioned it always use to get you from 1-8 so you're actually losing a level compared to previous. Edited January 31, 2020 by DR_Mechano 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troo Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 Is it possible something inadvertently fixed that which was previously broken? 1 "Homecoming is not perfect but it is still better than the alternative.. at least so far" - Unknown (Wise words Unknown!) Si vis pacem, para bellum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macskull Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 8 minutes ago, Troo said: Is it possible something inadvertently fixed that which was previously broken? I'll take "things that are highly unlikely" for 400, Alex. 1 "If you can read this, I've failed as a developer." -- Caretaker Proc information and chance calculator spreadsheet (last updated 15APR24) Player numbers graph (updated every 15 minutes) Graph readme @macskull/@Not Mac | Twitch | Youtube Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troo Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, macskull said: I'll take "things that are highly unlikely" for 400, Alex. that's not very sure.. 2 "Homecoming is not perfect but it is still better than the alternative.. at least so far" - Unknown (Wise words Unknown!) Si vis pacem, para bellum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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