BasherBot Posted June 3, 2020 Author Posted June 3, 2020 12 minutes ago, ImpousVileTerror said: 221 Stalker Combos, or 17 Stalkers minimum to get one with each Power Set. 144 Controller Combos, or 16 Controllers minimum. 247 Scrapper Combos, or 19 minimum. 169 Blaster Combos, or 13 minimum. 88 Dominator Combos, or 11 minimum. 286 Brute Combos, or 22 minimum. 264 Tanker Combos, or 22 minimum. 156 Sentinel Combos, or 13 minimum. 208 Corruptor Combos, or 16 minimum. 112 Mastermind Combos, or 16 minimum. 208 Defender Combos, or 16 minimum. 3 Widow Builds. 3 Soldier Builds. 2 Peacebringer. 2 Warshade. Grand totals of: 2113 unique combinations or 191 with minimal Set repetition for each Archetype. or 88 if we treat Sets as "the same thing" between different Archetypes. (Note: This was slapped together without proofreading or error correction. Numbers may have been calculated incorrectly.) I dub thee... KING OF MATH!
ImpousVileTerror Posted June 3, 2020 Posted June 3, 2020 I think one of the actual Kings of Math might take . . . "concern" at that. @Bopperprobably has the strongest claim to that crown right now. They're so math'y that they didn't realize that most people didn't know what the significance of a sigma sign was in an equation. (Also, "king" is not the appropriate royal title for me regardless.) I'll gladly take "Monarch of Tentacles," as my royal title though. 1
BasherBot Posted June 3, 2020 Author Posted June 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, ImpousVileTerror said: I think one of the actual Kings of Math might take . . . "concern" at that. @Bopperprobably has the strongest claim to that crown right now. They're so math'y that they didn't realize that most people didn't know what the significance of a sigma sign was in an equation. (Also, "king" is not the appropriate royal title for me regardless.) I'll gladly take "Monarch of Tentacles," as my royal title though. You still have my thanks for doing the math I'm too lazy to do XD 1
BasherBot Posted June 3, 2020 Author Posted June 3, 2020 I'm gonna give this a few days for everyone to discuss and allow more votes to pile up (and give myself time to plan a system out) For the meantime, I'll be on a Natural Rad/Fast Healing Brute called Radiant Gem on Excelsior. Hope to talk to ya all soon and don't be afraid to ask any questions here or in game :3
Bopper Posted June 3, 2020 Posted June 3, 2020 49 minutes ago, ImpousVileTerror said: I think one of the actual Kings of Math might take . . . "concern" at that. @Bopperprobably has the strongest claim to that crown right now. They're so math'y that they didn't realize that most people didn't know what the significance of a sigma sign was in an equation. (Also, "king" is not the appropriate royal title for me regardless.) I'll gladly take "Monarch of Tentacles," as my royal title though. I'll trade you "King of Math" for that sweet "Monarch of Tentacles" title. I'll even throw in a "Prince of Permutations" 2 PPM Information Guide Survivability Tool Interface DoT Procs Guide Time Manipulation Guide Bopper Builds +HP/+Regen Proc Cheat Sheet Super Pack Drop Percentages Recharge Guide Base Empowerment: Temp Powers Bopper's Tools & Formulas Mids' Reborn
Greycat Posted June 3, 2020 Posted June 3, 2020 4 hours ago, ImpousVileTerror said: 2 Peacebringer. 2 Warshade. ... eh? If they're doing one of each combination of powersets, it would only be 1 PB, 1 WS. (THough I'd encourage using alt builds to try out triform vs humanform!) Kheldian Lore and Backstory Guide 2.0: HC edition Out to EAT : A look at Epic ATs - what is, could have been, and never was Want 20 merits? Got a couple of minutes? Mini guide to the Combat Attributes window
Dazl Posted June 3, 2020 Posted June 3, 2020 6 hours ago, ImpousVileTerror said: 221 Stalker Combos, or 17 Stalkers minimum to get one with each Power Set. 144 Controller Combos, or 16 Controllers minimum. 247 Scrapper Combos, or 19 minimum. 169 Blaster Combos, or 13 minimum. 88 Dominator Combos, or 11 minimum. 286 Brute Combos, or 22 minimum. 264 Tanker Combos, or 22 minimum. 156 Sentinel Combos, or 13 minimum. 208 Corruptor Combos, or 16 minimum. 112 Mastermind Combos, or 16 minimum. 208 Defender Combos, or 16 minimum. 3 Widow Builds. 3 Soldier Builds. 2 Peacebringer. 2 Warshade. Grand totals of: 2113 unique combinations or 191 with minimal Set repetition for each Archetype. or 88 if we treat Sets as "the same thing" between different Archetypes. (Note: This was slapped together without proofreading or error correction. Numbers may have been calculated incorrectly.) Wow, that's one hell of a challenge. God speed to you Basherbot, and good luck slogging through the AT and power set combos you don't like. Dazl - Excelsior Grav/Kinetic Controller (SG - Cosmic Council) | Dazl - Everlasting & Torchbearer Grav/Energy Dominator Shadowspawn - Excelsior Dark/Dark Stalker | Pyro Kinetic -Everlasting Fire/Kinetic Corrupter | Nova Pyre - Everlasting Fire/Fire/Fire Blaster (OMG)
ImpousVileTerror Posted June 3, 2020 Posted June 3, 2020 No deal, Bopper! But I can schedule in some "massage" sessions . . . Tangentially, what would you say is your favourite internal organ? 1
Peacemoon Posted June 3, 2020 Posted June 3, 2020 I haven’t read the whole thread so sorry in advance. I voted no as I think it’s too much of a mammoth task and not sure it’s particularly healthy (sorry!). However if you were really keen, I’d say redraw the parameters of this project so you can have more fun with it. What I think would be more fun and a little more doable would be to have every 1 of every powerset, and never having the same powerset on the same AT twice (unless absolutely impossible). So for example take Masterminds, create a Mastermind for every primary, and have a different secondary every time. You could plan out the combos before you start. Retired, October 2022. Fallout Engineer Rad/AR Defender || Peacemoon Empathy/Psi Defender || Svarteir Dark/Dark Controller Everlasting || UK Timezone
EmmySky Posted June 3, 2020 Posted June 3, 2020 (edited) I have fallen in love with sentinels. I have 32 or 34 or something of them. I started with one of every primary and one of every secondary and am working towards one of every available. If you are going to do this, I suggest you focus on an AT you like, maybe 2 so you can have at least 2 toons to switch between and not get too bored. EDIT: for completeness Khelds would be 4 each, human only, tri-form, human-squid, human-lobster. May be other hidden combos like that in Arachnos, I stopped at 2 of each but you can easily do 3 of each if your 24 respec keeps basic powers, or 5 versions each if they can be mixed and matched (widow, fortunata, basic, basic-widow, basic-fortunata; bane, crab, basic, basic-bane, basic-crab). Edited June 3, 2020 by EmmySky
BasherBot Posted June 3, 2020 Author Posted June 3, 2020 1 hour ago, EmmySky said: I have fallen in love with sentinels. I have 32 or 34 or something of them. I started with one of every primary and one of every secondary and am working towards one of every available. If you are going to do this, I suggest you focus on an AT you like, maybe 2 so you can have at least 2 toons to switch between and not get too bored. EDIT: for completeness Khelds would be 4 each, human only, tri-form, human-squid, human-lobster. May be other hidden combos like that in Arachnos, I stopped at 2 of each but you can easily do 3 of each if your 24 respec keeps basic powers, or 5 versions each if they can be mixed and matched (widow, fortunata, basic, basic-widow, basic-fortunata; bane, crab, basic, basic-bane, basic-crab). I actually had planned to do 2-3 toons for this, funny enough 1
Riverdusk Posted June 3, 2020 Posted June 3, 2020 14 hours ago, ImpousVileTerror said: 221 Stalker Combos, or 17 Stalkers minimum to get one with each Power Set. 144 Controller Combos, or 16 Controllers minimum. 247 Scrapper Combos, or 19 minimum. 169 Blaster Combos, or 13 minimum. 88 Dominator Combos, or 11 minimum. 286 Brute Combos, or 22 minimum. 264 Tanker Combos, or 22 minimum. 156 Sentinel Combos, or 13 minimum. 208 Corruptor Combos, or 16 minimum. 112 Mastermind Combos, or 16 minimum. 208 Defender Combos, or 16 minimum. 3 Widow Builds. 3 Soldier Builds. 2 Peacebringer. 2 Warshade. Grand totals of: 2113 unique combinations or 191 with minimal Set repetition for each Archetype. or 88 if we treat Sets as "the same thing" between different Archetypes. (Note: This was slapped together without proofreading or error correction. Numbers may have been calculated incorrectly.) I hit up an NPC who's name starts with an "M" and checked my play time on my last couple of 50's (I only have 3 total at this time) right near when they hit level 50. I took 60 hours and 75 hours on the two to reach that level with the way I play and level up. Even shaving that down to about 50 hours per 50, and even playing 16 hours a day, it'd take me about 18 years to play all 2113 combo's to 50 with the way I like to play. I don't think I'll be trying this myself, but good luck to you @BasherBot. 😄 1 1
arcane Posted June 3, 2020 Posted June 3, 2020 Yeah if someone told me they could have both 2113 playable level 50’s AND a meaningful, fruitful life, I would unfortunately have to call bullshit. For that reason, it’s a hard no from me. Don’t destroy your life for a video game please.
BasherBot Posted June 3, 2020 Author Posted June 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, arcaneholocaust said: Yeah if someone told me they could have both 2113 playable level 50’s AND a meaningful, fruitful life, I would unfortunately have to call bullshit. For that reason, it’s a hard no from me. Don’t destroy your life for a video game please. considering I lack the meaningful, fruitful life you are afraid I'll destroy... I'll stick with this (plus I would no doubt slow down once I got a job)
Patti Posted June 3, 2020 Posted June 3, 2020 Why not do it as a team? Who else wants to help basher? 1
ImpousVileTerror Posted June 3, 2020 Posted June 3, 2020 Ok, so, a full team of 8, let's see . . . Each player being responsible for roughly 264 characters, with someone picking up the slack and grabbing the loose extra. OR Each player doing 24 characters, with someone only needing to do 23 instead.
BasherBot Posted June 3, 2020 Author Posted June 3, 2020 4 minutes ago, ImpousVileTerror said: Ok, so, a full team of 8, let's see . . . Each player being responsible for roughly 264 characters, with someone picking up the slack and grabbing the loose extra. OR Each player doing 24 characters, with someone only needing to do 23 instead. I would need to find 7 other people as crazy as me for that to work lol
ImpousVileTerror Posted June 3, 2020 Posted June 3, 2020 I'm afraid I've got my own craziness to attend to. . . . I'm not sure if I should say it now, or wait until I've got the first 80-or-so of them done . . . Suffice it to say, it involved extensive research from sources such as the New York City census. In any event; I wish you much luck and enjoyment! 1
SlimPickens Posted June 3, 2020 Posted June 3, 2020 You do you, but it sounds like tedium so if it isnt fun, then nah dont spend your time on something thats not enjoyable. Theres enough unenjoyable stuff going on already.
Dazl Posted June 3, 2020 Posted June 3, 2020 You know if you want to make this a little bit easier, you should create a farmer on a second account. You could then power level these alts to say level 35, and then level up normal from there. You would get past the tedium of the early levels and have a most of your powers making it easier to level them out. Plus you would be generating the funds to equip them. Dazl - Excelsior Grav/Kinetic Controller (SG - Cosmic Council) | Dazl - Everlasting & Torchbearer Grav/Energy Dominator Shadowspawn - Excelsior Dark/Dark Stalker | Pyro Kinetic -Everlasting Fire/Kinetic Corrupter | Nova Pyre - Everlasting Fire/Fire/Fire Blaster (OMG)
Twisted Toon Posted June 4, 2020 Posted June 4, 2020 8 hours ago, EmmySky said: I have fallen in love with sentinels. I have 32 or 34 or something of them. I started with one of every primary and one of every secondary and am working towards one of every available. If you are going to do this, I suggest you focus on an AT you like, maybe 2 so you can have at least 2 toons to switch between and not get too bored. EDIT: for completeness Khelds would be 4 each, human only, tri-form, human-squid, human-lobster. May be other hidden combos like that in Arachnos, I stopped at 2 of each but you can easily do 3 of each if your 24 respec keeps basic powers, or 5 versions each if they can be mixed and matched (widow, fortunata, basic, basic-widow, basic-fortunata; bane, crab, basic, basic-bane, basic-crab). Alternatively, if you didn't mind not playing a set though to level 50, but wanted to see how it worked, you could always use the alternate builds on the same character. That would mean that one Kheld could be Tri-form, Lobster-human, and Squid-Human...depending on which build you had selected at the time. But, that would defeat the purpose of this endeavor, I know.
Saikochoro Posted June 4, 2020 Posted June 4, 2020 Glad your stress levels are down. I’d say go for it, but only if you are enjoying it. As soon as it becomes a burden I’d say take a break from it and continue it later if you get the itch again.
BasherBot Posted June 4, 2020 Author Posted June 4, 2020 Alright, it's a final, I'll be going back to the challenge and revamping the thread either tomorrow or friday. If anyone has any build suggestions, feel free to let me know so I can throw a few of them in a poll and let the community decide who my secondary lvling boi will be (A Rad/FH Brute/scrapper is off the table, one could talk me into doing a FH/Rad Tanker)
ImpousVileTerror Posted June 4, 2020 Posted June 4, 2020 I rolled for you: 34.24, 31.78, 70.05 Blaster, Dual Pistols / Ninja Training
BasherBot Posted June 4, 2020 Author Posted June 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, ImpousVileTerror said: I rolled for you: 34.24, 31.78, 70.05 Blaster, Dual Pistols / Ninja Training sounds very aoe heavy >:3
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