Who Would Win A Fight? Superman vs Goku

[CU_Krow]

Though I'm curious to everyone's answers, my personal vote would be Goku.

 

1-Infinite potential for growth

2-No known glass ceiling for power scale/meter

3-Unlike Superman, no solid crippling weaknesses.

4-If you even "tried" to measure power/speed in terms, Goku surpasses Superman in every manner theoretically.

5-Goku has more variation of powers/techniques

6-Goku has has more variation and experience of different types of battles+opponents

7-In terms of drive for victory, Goku has way more drive for personal motivation/drive, that in itself could be a key to victory in a long-drawn out battle between the two. Superman, in a fighting sense, lacks fire.

Edited October 30, 2020 by CU_Krow

[CrudeVileTerror]

I've never watched any of these, but they keep showing up in my recommendations:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MW9Nrg_kZU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyl97TG8jbA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4inGw7MvhA

[Giovanni Valia]

Yeah, it's gotta be Superman Prime (Kal-El).

https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/Kal-El_(DC_One_Million)

"He traversed the entire DCU, going beyond time and space, and has been said to have reached as far as Heaven and Hell themselves."

 

[CU_Krow]

55 minutes ago, Giovanni Valia said:

Yeah, it's gotta be Superman Prime (Kal-El).

https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/Kal-El_(DC_One_Million)

"He traversed the entire DCU, going beyond time and space, and has been said to have reached as far as Heaven and Hell themselves."

 

From the same page:

Weaknesses

Power Limitation: Superman Prime's past self-was noted as being unable to connect to Headnet, the transgalactic information system that unites the inhabitants of the 853rd century, due to his insufficiently evolved brain; in fact, the frequencies emitted by it wreaked havoc with his super-hearing, meaning, his superhearing was still vulnerable to overloading. If Prime never overcame this limitation, he is locked off from the stream of information shared by virtually every other sentient being of his time period and is left vulnerable to extremely high levels of sound.

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If Goku was ever aware of the above weakness for Superman Prime, it'd be game-over instantly. 

[Greycat]

Superman.

 

He wouldn't just float there screaming for 20 episodes.

 

🙂

[UltraAlt]

I would have to say Goku - as his powers have a magical element, and Superman was historically vulnerable to magic (who knows now with all the craziness in retconning)

[reib]

I don't think Goku's powers have a magical component. He Is an alien who has trained a lot. That's all. Or i miss something?

Edited November 5, 2020 by reib

[FrauleinMental]

Depends on what the story needs, who's writing it, and whose book/show it's in.  Just like every "Who would win?".  There are no objective measures of powers or power levels because writers (especially comic book writers) rewrite them whenever the character either needs a new power or needs not to have a power to further their story.  Even Superman's vulnerability to kryptonite varies widely by writer and story (as does his weakness against magic)--sometimes there are entire story arcs built around it, sometimes it's barely a nuisance.

[Grindingsucks]

Superman would win.  Here's how it would go down:

 

While Goku is powering up for his mega-punch, superman would fly, at superspeed, to the Watchtower.  He would call an emergency meeting of the Justice League.  He would explain that he is facing a powerful, magical foe.  Batman would analyze Goku's weaknesses and come up with a flawless plan to defeat him.  The League would break for tea, eat a light brunch, take an hour long nap, and then binge-watch the first two seasons of breaking bad on Netflix.

 

They would then return (seconds before Goku's power-up animation sequence finished) and beat Goku's ass.

[Tsuko]

[Grindingsucks]

I mean... FrauleinMental had the ACTUAL answer.  I was just trying to lighten the mood with a bit of satire.  😛🤷‍♂️

[CrudeVileTerror]

I don't want to get mired in to this . . . but if one side of the fight gets to use their friends/companions, then so does the other side.

Goku's friends would leap in to action and get handily defeated, but they would buy him just enough time to win . . . or at least stalemate.

[UltraAlt]

On 11/5/2020 at 6:05 AM, reib said:

I don't think Goku's powers have a magical component. He Is an alien who has trained a lot. That's all. Or i miss something?

Maybe about the part where he died and trained in the Land of the Dead before being resurrected by the Dragon Balls.

I would say that there is a pretty magical component to both. 

 

Maybe it would be best just to stop all alien versus alien violence.

Edited November 6, 2020 by UltraAlt

[Frostbiter]

You can actually watch a few of these fights on Youtube:

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Moka]

Saitama wins. 

[Xeres]

Probably Goku.  After enough yelling and flashing lights, he'd find a color combination for his firey glowy aura that would work.

[ShardWarrior]

Batman would win, because Batman.

[Grimz]

11 minutes ago, ShardWarrior said:

Batman would win, because Batman.

Now I'm thinking of what Batman's countermeasure box for Goku would have inside it... probably food lol

[reib]

19 hours ago, ShardWarrior said:

Batman would win, because Batman.

This!

[CrudeVileTerror]

God, someone save me!

 

 . . . I think Piccolo could take Batman.

If for no other reason than the plot demands it.

[CU_Krow]

On 11/5/2020 at 6:39 AM, FrauleinMental said:

Depends on what the story needs, who's writing it, and whose book/show it's in.  Just like every "Who would win?".  There are no objective measures of powers or power levels because writers (especially comic book writers) rewrite them whenever the character either needs a new power or needs not to have a power to further their story.  Even Superman's vulnerability to kryptonite varies widely by writer and story (as does his weakness against magic)--sometimes there are entire story arcs built around it, sometimes it's barely a nuisance.

If this is the case, I'd argue that any "Who would win?" discussions should only follow the original character creation of the writer/artist who made the character, or been officially approved/acknowledged by the original character creator. Any spin-offs, alternate dimensional, fanart/stories should be excluded from such discussions. What's to stop me, some random Joe, from sending a huge sum to DC comics granting me permission to write my own Superman comic where he is immune to kryptonite, gains true invincibility, and does become god incarnate? In that case, Superman would be indisputable as the winner, but it would be lame for discussion because I wrote a comic strip entirely off-course from the original character design that the creator intended. Same for Goku.

Edited November 12, 2020 by CU_Krow

[FrauleinMental]

1 hour ago, CU_Krow said:

If this is the case, I'd argue that any "Who would win?" discussions should only follow the original character creation of the writer/artist who made the character, or been officially approved/acknowledged by the original character creator. Any spin-offs, alternate dimensional, fanart/stories should be excluded from such discussions. What's to stop me, some random Joe, from sending a huge sum to DC comics granting me permission to write my own Superman comic where he is immune to kryptonite, gains true invincibility, and does become god incarnate? In that case, Superman would be indisputable as the winner, but it would be lame for discussion because I wrote a comic strip entirely off-course from the original character design that the creator intended. Same for Goku.

I'm not referring to Elseworlds, Earth-XXX, or fanfic (however well funded).  Just in DC Comics mainstream, Superman's powers have varied widely based on what the writer needed for a given story.  For that matter, it's not unique to Superman (he's just a convenient example) and it's not even unique to DC.  Character power levels vary so widely that (to paraphrase an old NFL saying) in any given issue, any character can beat any other character.

[Luminara]

On 11/12/2020 at 2:39 PM, FrauleinMental said:

Just in DC Comics mainstream, Superman's powers have varied widely based on what the writer needed for a given story.

 

Super baking, super knitting, super kissing, super ventriloquism... I'm still 99% convinced that Crisis on Infinite Earths was really a cover to retcon some of the goofiest powers Superman developed over the decades.

 

George: "And then, he uses his super kiss to defeat-"
Marv: "That's it, I'm destroying the universe."

[MoisesG]

Sentry, nuff said!

[Luminara]

5 hours ago, MoisesG said:

Sentry, nuff said!

 

Squirrel Girl.