Generator Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 Just wondering, with the change to make "Stun" into "Power Crash," are there any skippable powers in EM now? Stun was always my go-to to pass over if I was tight for power choices. Later, Generator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bopper Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 You can still skip Barrage. 1 PPM Information Guide Survivability Tool Interface DoT Procs Guide Time Manipulation Guide Bopper Builds +HP/+Regen Proc Cheat Sheet Super Pack Drop Percentages Recharge Guide Base Empowerment: Temp Powers Bopper's Tools & Formulas Mids' Reborn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generator Posted December 2, 2020 Author Share Posted December 2, 2020 Okay, even if I skip Hasten? I always find that "Ship the lowest attack" thing to feel quite gappy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bopper Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Generator said: Okay, even if I skip Hasten? I always find that "Ship the lowest attack" thing to feel quite gappy. Barrage's is by far the worst attack in terms of DPA. The only reason to take it is for low level play and/or to utilize its EF spender for the guaranteed mag 3 stun and the debuffs. But overall, your ST attack chain will likely only use Total Focus, Energy Transfer, Energy Punch, and Bone Smasher. You might also include an epic snipe if you need to fill out any gaps. Whirling Hands, Power Crash and possibly an Epic would be used for AoE. PPM Information Guide Survivability Tool Interface DoT Procs Guide Time Manipulation Guide Bopper Builds +HP/+Regen Proc Cheat Sheet Super Pack Drop Percentages Recharge Guide Base Empowerment: Temp Powers Bopper's Tools & Formulas Mids' Reborn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandX Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 I skipped Power Crash still. 😛 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Z Bubba Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 7 hours ago, BrandX said: I skipped Power Crash still. 😛 Same here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreadShinobi Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 9 hours ago, Generator said: Okay, even if I skip Hasten? Now why would you do that on an energy melee character, or anything. Currently on fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haijinx Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 4 hours ago, DreadShinobi said: Now why would you do that on an energy melee character, or anything. Exactly If you skip hasten, how can you have perma hasten? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Z Bubba Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Haijinx said: If you skip hasten, how can you have perma hasten? And if you don't have permahasten, how are you going to run ET(long)-TF-ET(short)-Moonbeam-Bonesmasher? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hew Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 Buildup, confront, barrage. I skipped all 3. Burn me at the stake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Z Bubba Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 Confront and barrage I completely understand. No Build Up? I'm gonna need two bolters for that much heresy. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haijinx Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 Why do people always need to skip so many primary and secondary powers? What are they getting instead? Paper Mache arts and crafts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Z Bubba Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, Haijinx said: Why do people always need to skip so many primary and secondary powers? What are they getting instead? Paper Mache arts and crafts? Don't you be mockin my glue melee/paper armor scrapper! 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandX Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Haijinx said: Why do people always need to skip so many primary and secondary powers? What are they getting instead? Paper Mache arts and crafts? Concept powers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeregrineFalcon Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 I skipped Build Up on my Invuln/EM Tank. In fact I almost never get Build Up on a tank. Doing damage isn't my prime directive. I wouldn't skip it on a Scrapper or Blaster obviously, damage is their job. "It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire posts, the posts become warning points. It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion." Being constantly offended doesn't mean you're right, it means you're too narcissistic to tolerate opinions different than your own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troo Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 (edited) 23 hours ago, Generator said: Just wondering, with the change to make "Stun" into "Power Crash," are there any skippable powers in EM now? Stun was always my go-to to pass over if I was tight for power choices. Later, Generator yes for a scrapper: barrage, confront, power crash, buildup. (in order, most likely to be skipped first) Spoiler Power Order Energy Punch Barrage Bone Smasher Build Up Power Crash Confront Whirling Hands Total Focus Energy Transfer Edited December 3, 2020 by Troo fixed order "Homecoming is not perfect but it is still better than the alternative.. at least so far" - Unknown (Wise words Unknown!) Si vis pacem, para bellum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dzyp Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 (edited) Skipped barrage and confront. Everything else is worth taking imo. Edited December 6, 2020 by dzyp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsuko Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 Power Crash is a leveling power on Brutes, Tankers and scrappers. Any aoe as Fireball, Ball Lightning or Dark Obliteration will be a better choice, Maths wise. It's still a viable power. The only AT where PC is an Absolute Must Have is on Stalker. Just another French Player So Excuse my old, bad and too french English ! Join THE COSMIC COUNCIL !!! https://discord.gg/DVksJ4N Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cutter Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 On 12/2/2020 at 3:04 PM, Bopper said: Barrage's is by far the worst attack in terms of DPA. Can you explain this more? I'm leveling a baby EM scrapper and would like to understand how to better evaluate the choices. The in-game numbers appear to refute this statement. What isn't being taken into account in the numbers here? Thanks! @Cutter So many alts, so little time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Z Bubba Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, Cutter said: Can you explain this more? In game numbers don't take into account Arcanatime and often include other oddities. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macskull Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 15 minutes ago, Cutter said: Can you explain this more? I'm leveling a baby EM scrapper and would like to understand how to better evaluate the choices. The in-game numbers appear to refute this statement. What isn't being taken into account in the numbers here? Thanks! You need to treat the ingame numbers with a bit of scrutiny - in the case of these powers they're incorrectly factoring in extra damage. Barrage's DPA for a Scrapper at level 50 is 62.09, even though the ingame numbers say 94.72. Energy Punch's DPA is 87.43 despite ingame numbers showing 93.08. 2 1 "If you can read this, I've failed as a developer." -- Caretaker Proc information and chance calculator spreadsheet (last updated 15APR24) Player numbers graph (updated every 15 minutes) Graph readme @macskull/@Not Mac | Twitch | Youtube Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bopper Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 29 minutes ago, Cutter said: Can you explain this more? I'm leveling a baby EM scrapper and would like to understand how to better evaluate the choices. The in-game numbers appear to refute this statement. What isn't being taken into account in the numbers here? Thanks! It's a display bug common amongst DoTs which adds in Fiery Embrace damage erroneously. Here are previous comments on the bug. 1 PPM Information Guide Survivability Tool Interface DoT Procs Guide Time Manipulation Guide Bopper Builds +HP/+Regen Proc Cheat Sheet Super Pack Drop Percentages Recharge Guide Base Empowerment: Temp Powers Bopper's Tools & Formulas Mids' Reborn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cutter Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Thanks all for the education! Very much appreciated. @Cutter So many alts, so little time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brasilgringo Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 On 12/2/2020 at 7:04 PM, Bopper said: Barrage's is by far the worst attack in terms of DPA. The only reason to take it is for low level play and/or to utilize its EF spender for the guaranteed mag 3 stun and the debuffs. But overall, your ST attack chain will likely only use Total Focus, Energy Transfer, Energy Punch, and Bone Smasher. You might also include an epic snipe if you need to fill out any gaps. Whirling Hands, Power Crash and possibly an Epic would be used for AoE. @Bopper i'm toying with the idea of an EM/Rad scrapper that would use proc'd Rad Therapy and Ground Zero for (moar) AOE ... in that case, would you suggest skipping either Whirling Hands or Power Crash? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bopper Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 3 hours ago, brasilgringo said: @Bopper i'm toying with the idea of an EM/Rad scrapper that would use proc'd Rad Therapy and Ground Zero for (moar) AOE ... in that case, would you suggest skipping either Whirling Hands or Power Crash? I'd be fine with that. Probably would skip PC. 1 PPM Information Guide Survivability Tool Interface DoT Procs Guide Time Manipulation Guide Bopper Builds +HP/+Regen Proc Cheat Sheet Super Pack Drop Percentages Recharge Guide Base Empowerment: Temp Powers Bopper's Tools & Formulas Mids' Reborn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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