Spaghetti Betty Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 (edited) As of late there has been a great deal of lamenting about the glory days of the Brute and complaints about how much they suck in modern CoH. Well, it saddens me to bring more bad news, but Brutes will suck even more in Page 5, and here's why... In Page 5 there will be many powerset changes. Sentinels are doing extra damage. Masterminds got quality buffs as well. Even Force Fielders will now be able to contribute to teams in their own unique way. But what about Brutes? Well, in the upcoming update, Battle Axe will be getting a revamp as well. I want to call your attention to Whirling Axe - or as it will be known henceforth - Axe Cyclone. This new power will have the ability to draw in enemies within 15ft of the Brute. What this change means is that Brutes will now suck even more than they did before. And it doesn't stop there. If you're proc-happy, ALL Axe powers can take a Force Feedback: Chance for +Recharge proc, making the extra +100% global recharge a guarantee. This could potentially increase Brute suckage thricefold. Have the devs not learned from their past mistakes? If you compound this with other additions of power creep, then it's no secret that Brutes already sucked by using Fold Space. When will the suckage cease? These are truly the end times. Please have calm and rational discussion below. And stay tuned for my threads on why Stone Melee is the most solid set, and how my opinion on Storm Summoning will blow you away. Edited October 12, 2022 by Spaghetti Betty 1 23 2 2 Mainly on Excelsior. Find me in game @Spaghetti Betty. AE Arcs: Big Magic Blowout! 41612 | The Meta-Human Wrestling Association 44683 | MHWA Part 2 48577 Click to look at my pets! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snarky Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 Saying Fold Space benefits Brutes is like saying Inherent Fitness benefits Brutes. Or the ability to have access to Bases benefits Brutes. Changes to the Axe only affects Tanks and Scrappers as well, so points for picking something to talk about that did not benefit everyone who logged into the game. 1 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biostem Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 38 minutes ago, Spaghetti Betty said: ALL Axe powers can take a Force Feedback: Chance for +Recharge proc, making the extra +100% global recharge a guarantee. This could potentially increase Brute suckage thricefold. Why would +recharge make brutes worse? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yomo Kimyata Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 11 minutes ago, biostem said: Why would +recharge make brutes worse? Clearly they would suck faster. 2 11 Who run Bartertown? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaghetti Betty Posted October 12, 2022 Author Share Posted October 12, 2022 1 hour ago, biostem said: Why would +recharge make brutes worse? That much extra recharge would drastically decrease the recharge of Axe Cyclone, thereby increasing the use of the vacuum effect. This makes Battle Axe Brutes suck more. I hope this is easy to understand. 1 9 3 Mainly on Excelsior. Find me in game @Spaghetti Betty. AE Arcs: Big Magic Blowout! 41612 | The Meta-Human Wrestling Association 44683 | MHWA Part 2 48577 Click to look at my pets! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinitum Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 1 hour ago, Spaghetti Betty said: As of late there has been a great deal of lamenting about the glory days of the Brute and complaints about how much they suck in modern CoH. Well, it saddens me to bring more bad news, but Brutes will suck even more in Page 5, and here's why... In Page 5 there will be many powerset changes. Sentinels are doing extra damage. Masterminds got quality buffs as well. Even Force Fielders will now be able to contribute to teams in their own unique way. But what about Brutes? Well, in the upcoming update, Battle Axe will be getting a revamp as well. I want to call your attention to Whirling Axe - or as it will be known henceforth - Axe Cyclone. This new power will have the ability to draw in enemies within 15ft of the Brute. What this change means is that Brutes will now suck even more than they did before. And it doesn't stop there. If you're proc-happy, ALL Axe powers can take a Force Feedback: Chance for +Recharge proc, making the extra +100% global recharge a guarantee. This could potentially increase Brute suckage thricefold. Have the devs not learned from their past mistakes? If you compound this with other additions of power creep, then it's no secret that Brutes already sucked by using Fold Space. When will the suckage end? These are truly the end times. Please have calm and rational discussion below. And stay tuned for my threads on why Stone Melee is the most solid set, and how my opinion on Storm Summoning will blow you away. Kudos. You win the day 🤣 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanguinesun Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 2 hours ago, biostem said: Why would +recharge make brutes worse? They're mocking. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemming Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 1 hour ago, Krimson said: When did we get a second Snarky? There are always two <insert rest of quote> 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TygerDarkstorm Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 @Spaghetti Betty 4 Global: @Valnara1; Discord Handle: @Valnara#0620 I primarily play on Everlasting, but you may occasionally find me on Indom. 🙂 Notable Characters: Apocolyptica - Demons/Storm MM; Lurking Monster - Human-Form WS; Environmentabot - Bots/Nature MM; Miss Fade - Ill/Traps Controller; Sister Apocalypse - Beast/Dark MM; Dr. Elaina Wrath - Plant/Rad Controller (Join the House of Wrath, and spread the word of science!); Ruff Ruff Boom - AR/Devices Blaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaghetti Betty Posted October 12, 2022 Author Share Posted October 12, 2022 19 hours ago, Sanguinesun said: They're mocking. I prefer "tongue in cheek". 1 Mainly on Excelsior. Find me in game @Spaghetti Betty. AE Arcs: Big Magic Blowout! 41612 | The Meta-Human Wrestling Association 44683 | MHWA Part 2 48577 Click to look at my pets! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanguinesun Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 15 minutes ago, Spaghetti Betty said: I prefer "tongue in cheek". Well just make sure they showered first I suppose.... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snarky Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 Wait, you were joking? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaghetti Betty Posted October 12, 2022 Author Share Posted October 12, 2022 14 minutes ago, Snarky said: Wait, you were joking? 22 hours ago, Spaghetti Betty said: And stay tuned for my threads on why Stone Melee is the most solid set, and how my opinion on Storm Summoning will blow you away. Was this not a dead giveaway that I was just being punny? 2 3 Mainly on Excelsior. Find me in game @Spaghetti Betty. AE Arcs: Big Magic Blowout! 41612 | The Meta-Human Wrestling Association 44683 | MHWA Part 2 48577 Click to look at my pets! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yaliw Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 Brute reading comprehension was never nerfed but was also never very good 😛 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldskool Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 Hmmm.... Axe/EA. So Strong. So Pretty. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaghetti Betty Posted October 12, 2022 Author Share Posted October 12, 2022 26 minutes ago, oldskool said: Hmmm.... Axe/EA. So Strong. So Pretty. Strong, pretty, AND it sucks. 1 3 Mainly on Excelsior. Find me in game @Spaghetti Betty. AE Arcs: Big Magic Blowout! 41612 | The Meta-Human Wrestling Association 44683 | MHWA Part 2 48577 Click to look at my pets! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ringo Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 The perfect date doesn't exis- 5 hours ago, Spaghetti Betty said: Strong, pretty, AND it sucks. Well then 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sovera Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 But will they spit or swallow? 2 - Simple guide for newcomers. - Money making included among other things. - Tanker Fire Armor: the Turtle, the Allrounder, the Dragon, and compilation of Fire Armor builds. - Tanker Stone Armor: beginner friendly (near) immortal Tanker for leveling/end-game and Stone Armor framework. - Brute Rad/Stone and compilation of Brute Stone Armor builds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snarky Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 you folks know this ain't a reddit forum, right? 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bionic_Flea Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pep Rally Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 Pretty soon Brutes could suck as much as Primus! The HORROR! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=953PkxFNiko 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outrider_01 Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 Space Balls theme namedb 12345 1 "Farming is just more fun in my opinion, beating up hordes of angry cosplayers...." - Coyotedancer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xandyr Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 On 10/12/2022 at 10:43 PM, Ringo said: The perfect date doesn't exis- Well then Mark me down as scared and ...... 1 What you wanted to know about Bio, but never asked - Tanker - Homecoming (homecomingservers.com) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rahabina Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 On 10/12/2022 at 4:21 PM, Snarky said: Wait, you were joking? she had me too 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brutal Justice Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 The real irony of this thread is @Ston posting tank vs brute times in the Trapdoor mission. With limited procs the tank clears 6 seconds faster than the brute. With heavy procs the tank wins by 47 seconds. Guardian survivor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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