lemming Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 22 minutes ago, Black Zot said: Well that's the last time I click ToT doors on a pet class of any stripe. Well at least if you're solo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greycat Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 57 minutes ago, lemming said: I found that they go after you, not the henchmen if you're the one that clicked on the door. (Which seems to be the programmed behaviour if I read the dev note correctly) Noted the same thing with a controller. Which, ok, fine, I can see - let's call it "initial aggro" on the knockers. But completely ignoring henchmen attacks if the MM itself does nothing offensive or debuff wise... 2 Kheldian backstory guide 2.0 is out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgefund2 Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 Just voicing a vote for "I do like the EBs solo" and will miss being able to fight them solo if it's turned off next year. 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemming Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 9 minutes ago, Greycat said: Which, ok, fine, I can see - let's call it "initial aggro" on the knockers. But completely ignoring henchmen attacks if the MM itself does nothing offensive or debuff wise... Yep. I'm just noting the behaviour, not agreeing with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luminara Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 13 minutes ago, Greycat said: let's call it "initial aggro" on the knockers. 3 Get busy living... or get busy dying. That's goddamn right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Zot Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 44 minutes ago, lemming said: Well at least if you're solo If there's even a miniscule chance for an EB to pop out and eat my face with no recourse on my part, I'm not touching that door. I don't care if there's 3 full leagues locked and loaded, I'm not stepping on that landmine. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Player2 Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 6 minutes ago, Luminara said: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Player2 Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 7 minutes ago, Black Zot said: If there's even a miniscule chance for an EB to pop out and eat my face with no recourse on my part, I'm not touching that door. I don't care if there's 3 full leagues locked and loaded, I'm not stepping on that landmine. They ignore pets... not other players who will attack. If you've got even just one full team, you'll be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coyotedancer Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Black Zot said: Well that's the last time I click ToT doors on a pet class of any stripe. I was running the Aegis of Serenity, my Illusion Controller, for a little while this afternoon with one of the Everlasting motel leagues and noticed the same thing with her. If she was the one who clicked the door, the goons would sail right past not only her phantasm and phantoms to get to her, they'd basically ignore everyone else in front of the door to do it. I took to knocking, and then bouncing back over everyone's heads to the far side of the cluster, pretty much dragging the goons right through the middle of the league for fast shredding. They didn't give up their focus on murdering Aegis until someone with higher threat attacked them. Edited October 13, 2022 by Coyotedancer Taker of screenshots. Player of creepy Oranbegans and Rularuu bird-things. Kai's Diary: The Scrapbook of a Sorcerer's Apprentice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luminara Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 After much door clicking over the last few days, I can say with a high degree of confidence that the EBs don't like us, either. 2 1 Get busy living... or get busy dying. That's goddamn right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coyotedancer Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 Those mummies, man... They're just *angry* Taker of screenshots. Player of creepy Oranbegans and Rularuu bird-things. Kai's Diary: The Scrapbook of a Sorcerer's Apprentice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhym Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 5 hours ago, srmalloy said: From 'Lore Brand Comics': Is that...@Snarky? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeregrineFalcon Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 38 minutes ago, Player2 said: They ignore pets... not other players who will attack. If you've got even just one full team, you'll be fine. So you're saying that I should join a team?!? In an MMO?!?!! How dare you!!! 2 2 "It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire posts, the posts become warning points. It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion." Being constantly offended doesn't mean you're right, it means you're too narcissistic to tolerate opinions different than your own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coyotedancer Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 Heaven forbid some of us might actually prefer to solo... 1 Taker of screenshots. Player of creepy Oranbegans and Rularuu bird-things. Kai's Diary: The Scrapbook of a Sorcerer's Apprentice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MistressOhm Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 I've found I can burn them down on a Robots/Traps MM, because even tho' they're singularly focused on my cyborg ass, traps still work to mess with them. Caltrops, poison gas, and acid mortars soften them right up for the robots to disassemble them. It does mean I have to set traps and scoot, though, and ALWAYS have the Force Field refreshed before knocking if it's starting to flash. The Vampire is the tricky one, he likes to lead with a high mag hold, which means if I don't already have the bots in Bodyguard mode, I can't issue commands while held and they'll ignore it. The Matriarch leads with Thunderstorm and Hurricane, which means there's a lot of AOE stuff going off that scatters the team, that can make coordination difficult also (and that End Sapper curse she's got is nasty if it hits). The Mummy's not that hard, he just has a MOG that you have to cut back to T1 attacks to plink at him, bank your END, so that when it wears off and he's stunned, you can then Fire Everything and put him down. Did not know that the Mummy has no jump game, though, which means vaulting to a nearby roof and hammering on him from there is viable. The Vamp DOES have a jump, and the Matriarch, Spectral Were, and Hollow Specter all fly, so if you need to disengage, getting up out of reach won't help much. All that said.. on certain classes and powersets, these guys are !Fun while solo. I can see why a lot of people would be thinking the occasional EB spawn would be Cruel and Unusual Punishment. My only offer of consolation is, there are a LOT of zone events going off, and during those events, you collect no XP Debt. So if (!) you're soloing ToT at L25 or upwards, and you're "squishy"... try and do them while the Banner zone events are running, those are only in specific areas but everyone in the zone gets the "No Debt" buff. Zombie hordes? Those can make ToT'ing ... interesting. 1 AE ARC's (So Far!) -------------------- 15252 Child of the Tsoo - [SFMA] Ninjas, sorcerers, and human trafficking (Origin Story - Stick Figure/Storm Lotus) 50769 Hunt of the Eclipse - [SFMA] Finding something that was lost to Arachnos for nearly 20 years (Origin Story - Daisy Chain) 53149 Spells as a Service - [SFMA] When a young hacker makes a connection between magic and mathematics and encodes it into a computer program, chaos breaks loose! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krj12 Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 Couple of options they could choose to fix the issue: 1. Limit the EBs to certain zones or to certain neighborhoods. Make sure the release notes detail where those areas are. 2. Have a character setting to turn those EBs on/off when you are the knocker. Personally, I wish there was a setting to turn EBs off completely. Some of the EBs in the RWZ arcs are almost unbeatable for certain classes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glacier Peak Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 Or just team up lol 3 I lead weekly Indom Badge Runs / A newer giant monster guide by Glacier Peak / A tour of Pocket D easter eggs! / Arena All-Star Accolade Guide! Best Post Ever.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemming Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 1 hour ago, krj12 said: Some of the EBs in the RWZ arcs are almost unbeatable for certain classes. If you are solo and have bosses turned off, in most cases, an EB will be a boss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScarySai Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 I don't get how people are having trouble with these guys. You're given plenty of time to run away if you're undergeared for them. I for one, love the free XP on most of my guys, especially the masterminds. Poor EBs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City Council Faultline Posted October 14, 2022 City Council Share Posted October 14, 2022 If you exemplar to level 24 using a TF / Ouro arc, it should prevent EBs from spawning on you, since it checks for your combat level, not your security level. I haven't tested this though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAxe Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 One of the many reasons I love being a Tank. Works well with the Mrs being a squishy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bionic_Flea Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 I also liked them solo and have not had too much difficulty on them with a tank or an MM, though the MM did have a harder time. But struggling is how I get better. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High_Beam Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 Also to further get off topic, EB is the least likable member of the Sports Junkies radio team. Girls of Nukem High - Excelsior - Tempus Fabulous, Flattery, Jennifer Chilly, Betty Beatdown, Totally Cali, Two Gun Trixie Babes of War - Excelsior - Di Di Guns, Runeslinger, Munitions Mistress, Tideway, Hard Melody, Blue Aria Several alts and of course my original from live on Freedom, High Beam Prime (someone else has her non OG name) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivanhedgehog Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 On 10/13/2022 at 5:51 AM, Starforge said: Good news, all of the harder content is entirely OPTIONAL. agro and damage changes are optional? changes to trials that effect all players are optional? The drive to nerf all farming is optional? 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruin Mage Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 40 minutes ago, ivanhedgehog said: agro and damage changes are optional? The aggro changes are optional through the mission difficulty system. (+#/x#) Damage changes? Do you mean the Attack Type Changes? Just don't fight certain mobs/enemy groups! 41 minutes ago, ivanhedgehog said: changes to trials that effect all players are optional Master of is an optional setting for a badge. 41 minutes ago, ivanhedgehog said: The drive to nerf all farming is optional? Farming is indeed optional. 3 3 alright buddy, it's time to shit yourselfcasts earthquake, activates dispersion bubble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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