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Not that hard, as I've tried both of the others and have plenty of experience with CO. City just has more classes, more powers, and more customization in how you want to play: Gritty solo hero using only SOs to take on a couple baddies at a time or incarnated demigod with purple IOs taking on hordes or anything in between. Sure, the graphics are dated and the storytelling was never all that compelling, but City's greatest selling point is allowing the player more freedom in creating the personal story they want.

I'm likely a month or two away from trying out Elec/Time vs pylon, I'll give you the deets if/when I complete it.

I checked Mids' and in-game and Slowed Response has the same base 1.00x (75%) accuracy. It would be nice to slot in that Reactive proc though, so I put it in Hover in place of the Shield Wall def/end.

Heck I'm doing that with my blaster if I have the nuke ready. Less chance of it being wasted because a judgement fired during the animation.

First off, Actionette must meet Corpse Candle some day and just unload with Doctor Who references. But yeah, having the right character for the moment helps when you're being treated to a full blown theatrical production like that. Wish I had been there. 😆

A little bit of a necro, but long story short I pulled my elec / time off the shelf and wanted to see just how these proc monsters work. I cobbled together a build from @Sir Myshkin's page one experiments, put it together on Brainstorm, and gave it a test solo +4/x8 run against Malta and Council. Aside from navigating some end issues, hooboy that was fun. Not quite as blasty as my blasters, but there's always something to press, her health bar was rarely an issue, and mobs just died fast when they weren't flopping around like NBA stars. I'm posting the build in case there's updates I'm missing or tweak suggestions: This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.0.5.7 https://github.com/Reborn-Team/MidsReborn Click this DataLink to open the build! Relativity Rabbit Proc: Level 50 Technology Controller Primary Power Set: Electric Control Secondary Power Set: Time Manipulation Power Pool: Flight Power Pool: Speed Power Pool: Fighting Power Pool: Leadership Ancillary Pool: Primal Forces Mastery Hero Profile: Level 1: Tesla Cage -- GhsWdwEmb-Acc/EndRdx(A), GhsWdwEmb-Dam%(3), UnbCns-Dam%(3), GldNet-Dam%(5), NrnSht-Dam%(5), GldJvl-Dam%(7) Level 1: Time Crawl -- Acc-I(A) Level 2: Chain Fences -- SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(A), SprFrzBls-Dmg/EndRdx(11), SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg(11), TraoftheH-Dam%(13), PstBls-Dam%(13), Rgn-Knock%(15) Level 4: Temporal Mending -- Prv-Heal(A), Prv-Heal/EndRdx(15), Prv-EndRdx/Rchg(17), Prv-Heal/Rchg(17), Prv-Heal/Rchg/EndRdx(19), Prv-Absorb%(19) Level 6: Jolting Chain -- SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(A), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg(21), FrcFdb-Rechg%(21), Apc-Dam%(23), ExpStr-Dam%(23), GldJvl-Dam%(25) Level 8: Conductive Aura -- EndMod-I(A) Level 10: Temporal Selection -- DctWnd-Heal/Rchg(A) Level 12: Fly -- Empty(A) Level 14: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(25) Level 16: Distortion Field -- SprEnt-End/Rchg(A), SprEnt-Rchg/AbsorbProc(27), GhsWdwEmb-Dam%(27), GldNet-Dam%(29), NrnSht-Dam%(29), ImpSwf-Dam%(31) Level 18: Hover -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(31), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(31) Level 20: Boxing -- Empty(A) Level 22: Tough -- GldArm-3defTpProc(A), GldArm-End/Res(33), GldArm-ResDam(33) Level 24: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(33), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(34) Level 26: Synaptic Overload -- SprWiloft-Rchg/Dmg%(A), SprWiloft-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/EndRdx(34), SprWiloft-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/EndRdx/Rchg(34), SprWiloft-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear(36), SprWiloft-EndRdx/Rchg(36), MlsIll-Dam%(36) Level 28: Farsight -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(37), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg(50) Level 30: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(37), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(37) Level 32: Gremlins -- ExpRnf-Acc/Rchg(A), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(39), ExpRnf-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg(39), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg(39), SlbAll-Build%(40), OvrFrc-Dam/KB(40) Level 35: Slowed Response -- AchHee-ResDeb%(A), AnlWkn-Acc/Rchg/EndRdx(40), ShlBrk-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(42) Level 38: Chrono Shift -- EffAdp-EndMod/Rchg(A), DctWnd-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(42), NmnCnv-Heal/Rchg(42), NmnCnv-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(43) Level 41: Power Blast -- Apc-Dmg(A), Apc-Dmg/Rchg(43), Apc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43), Apc-Acc/Rchg(45), Apc-Dmg/EndRdx(45), GldJvl-Dam%(45) Level 44: Energy Torrent -- Rgn-Dmg(A), Rgn-Dmg/Rchg(46), Rgn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(46), Rgn-Acc/Rchg(46), Rgn-Dmg/EndRdx(48), FrcFdb-Rechg%(48) Level 47: Temp Invulnerability -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(48), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(50), UnbGrd-Max HP%(50) Level 49: Power Boost -- RechRdx-I(A) Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A) Level 1: Containment Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A) Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A) Level 1: Swift -- Empty(A) Level 1: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(7), Mrc-Rcvry+(9) Level 1: Hurdle -- Empty(A) Level 1: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A), PrfShf-EndMod(9) Level 12: Afterburner Level 50: Intuition Radial Paragon Level 50: Clarion Core Epiphany ------------

That's classic supervillainy, can't see why there'd be a problem with it.

*re-checks the price of orange salvage* You sure they're not already going up?

And then a fifth category: Belgians.

"Andy learned that day not to take all the toggles."

Just as a thought: X mil in inf plus X merits or empyrans.

I don't actually farm myself, but I've also just swapped a scrapper concept into a blaster because the slog just got too much. Not enough slots, not enough buttons to press, not enough damage (if you don't have Fury, Assassination, or Defiance). Its not as fun as exemplaring a 50 who has better damage enhancement than you'd get from one or two SOs. I prefer not to have my patience challenged by filling my attack chain with bargain bin Shadow Maul and having to take rest breaks before I run out of blue bar. I imagine farmers likewise have been through this enough that they too are out of patience. If you're having fun going the long way, that's OK! Not everyone does, so I won't begrudge farmers and I won't begrudge OP wanting a free 50 inf sink.

Because you can still go back to smell the roses at 50, but also have all your powers slotted and enhanced as well.

A lot of y'all knocked it out of the park on Everlasting tonight. (And made me regret not sending the werewolf instead of one of wound up being a few Red Riding Hoods.) The winners were all quality and I'm kinda proud of who we sent to represent to the finals. Thumbs up to everyone!

Ok, now explain why they are too expensive given mastermind damage per endurance.

For you, sure. For me, I blapper at +3/x6 and I'm happy enough with the results and not having to hold/immobilize too many runners if my stronger ranged attacks are on cooldown. We're all looking for different things out of our powersets.

From my understanding, it's OK out of the box but the Achilles procs can give its single target chain a really nice boost.

My Rad/Atomic has taken first place. The animations are fun, she's solid 1 through 50, and the Achilles procs should make her competitive with a Fire/Fire. And she glows!

Single target immobilizes - basically, blasters - are useful for halting down runners. I also wouldn't be against them getting a balance pass to put them all comparable to Ring Of Fire.

Didn't we have this poll before?

There's a way to do radios and papers you've outleveled?

So are you saying that blasters have all the fun? I'm down with that.

On my blaster, my decisions will generally be towards whatever will get more more damage and sustainability. This is also how I went building on my controller, mainly as there aren't many better options when you're illusions / sonic. Checking her build, I notice both the Controller ATO and purple hold procs are both damage! To get a boost to her hold mag would require the Lockdown proc and either losing the Controller damage proc and 6-piece defense boost in Blind or the Achilles proc in Liquefy. Now that I think on it, I might swap out the Achilles since 10 secs of -res every 75 secs might not be as useful as an initial lockdown on illusionists and sappers. 🤔

This is from the PPM spreadsheet, if it'll help: TYPE SET PROC AMOUNT PPM Accurate Def Debuff Analyze Weakness +Tohit 20% +tohit, 10 sec 2 Accurate Def Debuff Shield Breaker Lethal damage 71.75 3.5 Accurate Healing Theft of Essence +End 10% +end 3.5 Accurate Healing Touch of the Nictus Negative energy damage 71.75 3.5 Accurate Tohit Debuff Siphon Insight +Tohit 20% +tohit, 10 sec 2 Accurate Tohit Debuff Cloud Senses Negative energy damage 71.75 3.5 Blaster ATO Blaster's Wrath Fire damage 71.75 4 Blaster ATO Superior Blaster's Wrath Fire damage 107.1 5 Blaster ATO Defiant Barrage Status protection 20% mez resist (all), 10.25 sec 3 Blaster ATO Superior Defiant Barrage Status protection 20% mez resist (all), 10.25 sec 4 Brute ATO Brute's Fury +Fury 5 4 Brute ATO Superior Brute's Fury +Fury 7 5 Brute ATO Unrelenting Fury +Regen/+End discount 15% +regen, 5% end discount, 10.25 sec 6 Brute ATO Superior Unrelenting Fury +Regen/+End discount 20% +regen, 6.65% end discount, 10.25 sec 7 Confuse Cacophony Energy damage 71.75 3.5 Confuse Malaise's Illusions Psionic damage 71.75 3.5 Confuse Coercive Persuasion AoE confuse 4.5 Controller ATO Will of the Controller Psionic damage 71.75 4 Controller ATO Superior Will of the Controller Psionic damage 107.1 5 Controller ATO Overpowering Presence Energy font 1 Controller ATO Superior Overpowering Presence Energy font 2 Corruptor ATO Malice of the Corruptor Negative energy damage 71.75 4 Corruptor ATO Superior Malice of the Corruptor Negative energy damage 107.1 5 Corruptor ATO Scourging Blast PBAoE heal/+End 5% heal, 5% +end 2 Corruptor ATO Superior Scourging Blast PBAoE heal/+End 7.5% heal, 7.5% +end 3 Def Debuff Touch of Lady Grey Negative energy damage 71.75 3.5 Def Debuff Achilles' Heel -Res -20% res,10 sec 3.5 Defender ATO Defender's Bastion PBAoE heal 4 Defender ATO Vigilant Assault PBAoE +Absorb 4 Defender ATO Superior Defender's Bastion PBAoE heal 5 Defender ATO Superior Vigilant Assault PBAoE +Absorb 5 Dominator ATO Ascendancy of the Dominator +Dam 14.19% +dam, stacks 3x 5 Dominator ATO Superior Ascendancy of the Dominator +Dam 21.25% +dam, stacks 3x 6 Dominator ATO Dominating Grasp Fiery orb 1 Dominator ATO Superior Dominating Grasp Fiery orb 2 EndMod Performance Shifter +End 10% +end 1.5 EndMod Energy Manipulator Stun Mag 2, 2 sec 2 EndMod Power Transfer Heal self 5% 3 Fear Glimpse of the Abyss Psionic damage 71.75 3.5 Fear Unspeakable Terror Stun Mag 1, 2 sec 3 Heal Preventive Medicine +Absorb Every 5 sec (90 sec lockout) Heal Panacea +HP/+End 7.5% +end/20% +regen, 120 sec 3 Hold Ghost Widow's Embrace Psionic damage 71.75 3.5 Hold Neuronic Shutdown Psionic damage (DoT) 71.75 3.5 Hold Unbreakable Constraint Smashing damage 107.1 4.5 Hold Basilisk's Gaze -Recharge -25% rech, 10 sec 3.5 Hold Lockdown +Mag 2 Mag 2, 2 sec 2.5 Hold Gladiator's Net Lethal damage 107.1 3.5 Hold Entomb +Absorb 2 Hold Superior Entomb +Absorb 3 Immobilize Trap of the Hunter Lethal damage 71.75 3.5 Immobilize Debilitative Action Stun Mag 2, 2 sec 3 Immobilize Gravitational Anchor Hold Mag 2, 2 sec 3.5 Kheld ATO Essence Transfer Global heal self 5% heal 12% (not PPM) Kheld ATO Superior Essence Transfer Global heal self 6.5% heal 18% (not PPM) Knockback Force Feedback +Recharge 100% +rech, 5 sec per target (10 sec lockout) 2 Knockback Explosive Strike Smashing damage 71.75 3.5 Melee Mako's Bite Lethal damage 71.75 3.5 Melee Hecatomb Negative energy damage 107.1 4.5 Melee Touch of Death Negative energy damage 71.75 3.5 Melee Gladiator's Strike Smashing damage 107.1 3.5 Melee Pounding Slugfest Stun Mag 2, 2 sec 2.5 Melee Kinetic Combat Knockdown Mag 0.67 3 Melee Blistering Cold Hold 3 Melee Superior Blistering Cold Hold 4 PBAoE Armageddon Fire damage 107.1 4.5 PBAoE Eradication Energy damage 75.75 3.5 PBAoE Scirocco's Dervish Lethal damage 71.75 3.5 PBAoE Obliteration Smashing damage 71.75 3.5 PBAoE Fury of the Gladiator -Res -20% res, 10 sec 3.5 PBAoE Avalanche Knockdown Mag 0.67 2.5 PBAoE Superior Avalanche Knockdown Mag 0.67 3.5 Pet Soulbound Allegiance Buildup 15% +tohit, 100% +dam, 10 sec (on pet) 3 Ranged Decimation Buildup See note 5 1 Ranged Entropic Chaos Heal self 5% heal 3 Ranged Apocalypse Negative energy damage 107.1 4.5 Ranged Gladiator's Javelin Toxic damage 107.1 3.5 Ranged Tempest -End -3.33% end 3.5 Ranged Devastation Hold Mag 2, 2 sec 3 Ranged Winter's Bite -Speed/-Recharge 4 Ranged Superior Winter's Bite -Speed/-Recharge 5 Scrapper ATO Critical Strikes +Crit chance +50%, 3.25 sec 2 Scrapper ATO Superior Critical Strikes +Crit chance +50%, 3.25 sec 3 Sentinel ATO Opportunity Strikes +Opportunity 1 Sentinel ATO Superior Opportunity Strikes +Opportunity 2 Sentinel ATO Sentinel's Ward +Absorb 5 Sentinel ATO Superior Sentinel's Ward +Absorb 6 Sleep Call of the Sandman Heal self 15% heal 3 Sleep Fortunata Hypnosis Placate 8 sec 4.5 Sleep Induced Coma -Recharge -20% for 20 sec 3.5 Slow Impeded Swiftness Smashing damage 71.75 3.5 Slow Pacing of the Turtle -Recharge -20% for 20 sec 3.5 Sniper Sting of the Manticore Toxic damage 71.75 3.5 Sniper Executioner's Contract Stun Mag 2, 2 sec 3.5 SoA ATO Dominion of Arachnos Debuff/mez 10% -dam, fear 4 SoA ATO Superior Dominion of Arachnos Debuff/mez 15% -dam, fear 5 SoA ATO Spider's Bite Global toxic damage 35.34 8% (not PPM) SoA ATO Superior Spider's Bite Global toxic damage 53.54 12% (not PPM) Stalker ATO Stalker's Guile Hide 4 Stalker ATO Superior Stalker's Guile Hide 5 Stalker ATO Assassin's Mark Global recharge Build Up 4% (not PPM) Stalker ATO Superior Assassin's Mark Global recharge Build Up 5% (not PPM) Stun Razzle Dazzle Immobilize Mag 2, 2 sec 3.5 Stun Stupefy Knockback Mag 6 3.5 Stun Absolute Amazement -Tohit -7.5% for 15 sec 4.5 Tanker ATO Might of the Tanker +Res 5%, stacks 3x 4 Tanker ATO Superior Might of the Tanker +Res 6.7%, stacks 3x 5 Tanker ATO Gauntleted Fist +Absorb 2 Tanker ATO Superior Gauntleted Fist +Absorb 3 TAoE Positron's Blast Energy damage 71.75 3.5 TAoE Javelin Volley Lethal damage 107.1 3.5 TAoE Ragnarok Knockdown Mag 0.67 3.5 TAoE Annihilation -Res 3 TAoE Bombardment Fire damage 71.75 3.5 Taunt Perfect Zinger Psionic damage 71.75 3.5 Taunt Triumphant Insult Stun Mag 1, 2 sec 2 Tohit Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control Buildup See note 5 1 Tohit Debuff Dark Watcher's Despair -Recharge -20% for 20 sec 3.5 Tohit Debuff Deflated Ego -Recovery -25% for 10.25 sec 3.5 Universal Damage Overwhelming Force Knockdown Mag 0.67 20% (not PPM)

I'd have to think more on this, but this plus a rebalancing of proc effects (since PPM is no longer operative) might be a nifty way of re-working the whole thing.