Quazar Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 Seriously, thank you for bringing our home back and putting so much hard work into this. Please also thank the others @Cipher!!! 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroXephon Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 Yay, my main is still an oddity! Widow club represent! 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MunkiLord Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 War Mace is really underrepresented on Scrappers. It's awesome. 4 1 The Trevor Project Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galaxy Brain Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 This is awesome stuff, great job everyone! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shin Magmus Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 You have failed me for the last time: Empathy spammers. Seriously though, how is a buff set that bad/outclassed so popular on Defenders when it's so much less (understandably) played across the other 3 ATs with access to the buff sets? Meanwhile sets that can easily scratch that Empathy itch like Thermal (my Therm easily has a gapless heal-chain of Warmth+Cauterize) and which also provide actual debuffs and some sort of worthwhile kill-time-reduction to the team languish in obscurity? Empathy's lead is worse than Fiery Aura's on Brutes because those farmers don't actually do regular content: the mass Healers do. It's not hyperbole to say that they'd bring more to most teams with any set other than Force Field or TA. Actually no, TA would indeed bring more to Incarnated God teams than Empathy does. 1 1 1 Treating everyone fairly is great; unfair discrimination is badwrong! I do not believe the false notion that "your ignorance is just as good as my knowledge." The Definitive Empathy Rework Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kallisti Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 Everlasting ❤️ Veracor! 1 The Kallistiverse COH site: https://kallistiverse.mardona.com/coh/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apparition Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 13 minutes ago, ShinMagmus said: You have failed me for the last time: Empathy spammers. Seriously though, how is a buff set that bad/outclassed so popular on Defenders when it's so much less (understandably) played across the other 3 ATs with access to the buff sets? Meanwhile sets that can easily scratch that Empathy itch like Thermal (my Therm easily has a gapless heal-chain of Warmth+Cauterize) and which also provide actual debuffs and some sort of worthwhile kill-time-reduction to the team languish in obscurity? Empathy's lead is worse than Fiery Aura's on Brutes because those farmers don't actually do regular content: the mass Healers do. It's not hyperbole to say that they'd bring more to most teams with any set other than Force Field or TA. Actually no, TA would indeed bring more to Incarnated God teams than Empathy does. Most of the Empathy Defenders were created in April through June by people who only played WoW and WoW clone MMOGs. They wanted to play a "healer" because that's what they always play in WoW and/or a WoW clone MMOG, saw Empathy and went, "Oooooooooh, healer! I'll play that." They made the Empathy Defender, took only their default attack, got power leveled to level 50, and took the full Medicine pool "because that's what healers do." Then they went through all of the Incarnate trials, went "That's it?" and quit. Seriously. I couldn't move through Atlas Park without bumping into an Empathy Defender every ten feet back then, and most of them never took any of their secondary beyond their default attack. Then there was all the "Looking for a healer!" spam in LFG by other people who only played WoW and/or a WoW clone MMOG before. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnight Blue Mage Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 I love this thread and info (really been looking forward to it!), thanks so much for putting it together ❤️ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City Council Mintopia Posted March 3, 2020 City Council Share Posted March 3, 2020 Still not enough love for Katana/Super Reflexes scrapper! 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troo Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 (edited) Excellent! Can we request some new unicorn numbers also? It seemed to spark folks trying new combos. Example: 205 Ice Armor Battle Ax 5 Edited March 3, 2020 by Troo additional info 1 1 "Homecoming is not perfect but it is still better than the alternative.. at least so far" - Unknown (Wise words Unknown!) Si vis pacem, para bellum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ApesAmongUs Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 1 hour ago, ShinMagmus said: You have failed me for the last time: Empathy spammers. Seriously though, how is a buff set that bad/outclassed so popular on Defenders when it's so much less (understandably) played across the other 3 ATs with access to the buff sets? Meanwhile sets that can easily scratch that Empathy itch like Thermal (my Therm easily has a gapless heal-chain of Warmth+Cauterize) and which also provide actual debuffs and some sort of worthwhile kill-time-reduction to the team languish in obscurity? Empathy's lead is worse than Fiery Aura's on Brutes because those farmers don't actually do regular content: the mass Healers do. It's not hyperbole to say that they'd bring more to most teams with any set other than Force Field or TA. Actually no, TA would indeed bring more to Incarnated God teams than Empathy does. Because thematically it matches what a lot of people want to play. Same reason we'd have a ton of flying fire blasters even if the set wasn't good. Or SS and WP are the #2 sets for brute if you don't count farming. And for anyone not power leveling, it's pretty decent for quite some time and is great in 2 person teams. It only sucks in 8 man teams/raids. The real problem with it is the fact that the large number of people playing it means it will never get the balance look that it really needs. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retired Game Master GM Tock Posted March 3, 2020 Retired Game Master Share Posted March 3, 2020 Laughing that all his toons are not FOTM in the least (...and it shows with all of the faceplants.) 😄 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galaxy Brain Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 RIP that 1 peacebringer Cookie to the person who finds it 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skoryy Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 1 hour ago, GM Tahquitz said: Laughing that all his toons are not FOTM in the least (...and it shows with all of the faceplants.) 😄 So are mine: 20 DP/Fire blasters, 44 Staff/DA brutes, 33 Ill/Sonic controllers, 57 Elec/Elec stalkers, and 24 Rad/StJ tankers. And the squishies faceplant pretty often too, gotta finish up their builds someday... Thanks, @Cipher! 1 Everlasting's Actionette Also Wolfhound, Starwave, Blue Gale, Relativity Rabbit, and many more! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shockacon Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Flowers said: Still not enough love for Katana/Super Reflexes scrapper! When I first got into the game back in the day, that was actually my very first character. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azanimefan Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 Veracor is a great guy. Always running content for folks. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZorkNemesis Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 (edited) I'm one of the six Sonic/Ninja Blasters checking in. A strange combo for sure that I was inspired to roll upon seeing those two sets being the overall least played for Blaster (and only one at 50 from the last time stats rolled out). What a weird trip that ended up being, but still a cool one that's both unique in play (a Blaster with lots of control capabilities) and paradoxical in theme (ninjas aren't normally shattering eardrums). There's so much data to go through, at this point are there any powerset combos for any AT not at 50? I see a couple ones on the list but i'd be curious if anything's still overlooked. Edited March 3, 2020 by ZorkNemesis 1 Currently playing on Indomitable as @Zork Nemesis; was a Protector native on live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_ancora Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 Come on people, widows are amazing! Especially fortunatas. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vea Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 Blasters Archery/Atomic – 1 out of 14 Water/TA – 1 out of 34 Rad/Fire – 1 out of 58 Brutes Spines/Fire – 1 out of 8964 Rad/Fire – 1 out of 3423 Savage/Fire – 1 out of 185 MA/Elec – 1 out of 7 Controller Fire/Kin – 1 out of 2459 Dark/Dark – 1 out of 594 Corrupter Fire/Kin – 1 out of 589 Fire/Time - 1 out of 483 Ice/Cold – 1 out of 233 Defender Storm/Sonic – 1 out of 24 Nature/Dark – 1 out of 28 Beam/Poison 1 out of 21 Dominator Mind/Psi – 1 out of 388 Plant/Fire – 1 out of 153 Elec/Dark – 1 out of 17 Mastermind Robots/Nature – 1 out of 43 Scrapper TW/Bio – 1 out of 593 Rad/Shield – 1 out of 43 Ice/Bio – 1 out of 9 Stalker STJ/Invul – 1 out of 27 Elec/Bio – 1 out of 30 Tanker Rad/Savage – 1 out of 23 Fire/Staff – 1 out 17 I also have a Widow (Fortunata) and a SoA (Bane). I also had a DP/WP Sentinel, but deleted that a while ago. 1 @Vea/@Vae/@Vew - You can call me V. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
summers Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 6 hours ago, Troo said: Excellent! Can we request some new unicorn numbers also? It seemed to spark folks trying new combos. Example: 205 Ice Armor Battle Ax 5 How about there's still no 50s! BLASTER: There's a 50 for every combination of Blaster BRUTE: There's zero 50s for: Claws/Stone Armour Ice Melee/Super Reflexes Katana/Stone Armour CONTROLLER There's a 50 for every combination of Controller CORRUPTOR There's a 50 for every combination of Corruptor DEFENDER There's zero 50s for: Cold Domination/Assault Rifle Sonic Debuff/Assault Rifle Traps/Psychic Blast Trick Arrow/Radiation Blast DOMINATOR There's a 50 for every combination of Dominators MASTERMIND There's a 50 for every combination of Mastermind SCRAPPERThere's no 50 for Kinetic Attack/Dark Armour SENTINEL There's zero 50s for: Archery/Ice Armour Energy Blast/Ice Armour STALKER There's no 50 for Claws/Fiery Aura TANKER There's no 50 for Stone Armour/Claws 5 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auroxis Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 9 hours ago, ShinMagmus said: You have failed me for the last time: Empathy spammers. Seriously though, how is a buff set that bad/outclassed so popular on Defenders when it's so much less (understandably) played across the other 3 ATs with access to the buff sets? Meanwhile sets that can easily scratch that Empathy itch like Thermal (my Therm easily has a gapless heal-chain of Warmth+Cauterize) and which also provide actual debuffs and some sort of worthwhile kill-time-reduction to the team languish in obscurity? Empathy's lead is worse than Fiery Aura's on Brutes because those farmers don't actually do regular content: the mass Healers do. It's not hyperbole to say that they'd bring more to most teams with any set other than Force Field or TA. Actually no, TA would indeed bring more to Incarnated God teams than Empathy does. Empathy is fine when played to its strengths, and it's quite powerful when paired with Sonic Attack. Please don't trash the set when you can educate players instead: 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veracor Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 1 hour ago, summers said: BRUTE: There's zero 50s for: Claws/Stone Armour TANKER There's no 50 for Stone Armour/Claws The game actually doesn't allow this powerset combination for some reason. 1 1 1 @Veracor - Veracor, Bio/TW Tanker on Everlasting. Retired raid leader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crysis Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 (edited) 11 hours ago, Sylar said: Looks like people only play Spines/FA just to farm which is super boring, there are other sets people 🤣 Looks like they REALLY enjoy playing this “boring set” relative to just about anything else in the game! Compared to how much they play there are entire AT’s that must be more “boring” to play. We also don’t know what they are playing content-wise. I suspect much of it is AE but I also see quite a few on iTrials and PVE content. But I also think this number is highly representative of the popularity of AFK farmers. I have one and it’s almost always logged in earning influence and drops during slow parts of the day, often for several hours at a time. The total population drop that happened in Aug/Sep was noticeable. Let’s hope end of school year coming brings back some summer players but I’m doubtful. Edited March 3, 2020 by Crysis 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obus Form Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 2 hours ago, Crysis said: The total population drop that happened in Aug/Sep was noticeable. Let’s hope end of school year coming brings back some summer players but I’m doubtful. I'm wondering if there are any ways to advertise the existence of COH homecoming on more mainstream outlets such as MMO gaming news feeds, etc. If people paid, and COH was willing, would the dev team ever consider putting a YouTube add? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heraclea Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 Let's see here: Tanker main: Invuln/Dark Melee. Reasonably popular. Blaster main: Archery/Devices. Reasonably popular. Brute main: Radiation/Electric Armor. Very unusual Scrapper main: Kinetic/Radiation Armoe. Rather unusual Stalker main: Ninja/Ninja Unoriginality, thou art made in Japan. Mastermind main: Beast/Time. Boring. Dominator main: Mind/Fire. Boring. Corruptor main: Psy/Dark. Rather unusual. Controller main: Illusion/Radiation. Super boring Not sure I've even rolled a Defender. I have a Widow I haven't started on, no Kheldians of either flavor. It seems like the more comfortable I am playing an AT, the more unusual choices I am willing to make. 1 QVÆ TAM FERA IMMANISQVE NATVRA TB ~ Amazon Army: AMAZON-963 | TB ~ Crowned Heads: CH-10012 | EX ~ The Holy Office: HOLY-1610 | EV ~ Firemullet Groupies: FM-5401 | IN ~ Sparta: SPARTA-3759 | RE ~ S.P.Q.R. - SPQR-5010 Spread My Legions - #207 | Lawyers of Ghastly Horror - #581 | Jerk Hackers! - #16299 | Ecloga Prima - #25362 | Deth Kick Champions! - #25818 | Heaven and Hell - #26231 | The Legion of Super Skulls - #27660 | Cathedral of Mild Discomfort - #38872 | The Birch Conspiracy! - #39291 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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