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[Freakenstein]

Well, the Kallisti badge was easy to find. = ]

 

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Edited October 31, 2020 by Freakenstein
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[Glacier Peak]

11 minutes ago, Freakenstein said:

Well, the Kallisti badge was easy to find. = ]

 

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Nice find! 

[TraumaTrain]

Right on Tyrant's shoulder!

[Max Firepower]

If Echo: Galaxy City disappears, how will the changes to Accolade requirements be handled in terms of Exploration and History badges?

[Mystic Fortune]

5 minutes ago, Max Firepower said:

If Echo: Galaxy City disappears, how will the changes to Accolade requirements be handled in terms of Exploration and History badges?

Echo: Galaxy City isn't going anywhere. The only thing that is changing is we're losing access to the Galaxy City teleport base beacon. You can still access Echo: Galaxy City through the portal at the rear of Ouroboros, which is now accessible at level 1.

[Max Firepower]

1 hour ago, Mystic Fortune said:

Echo: Galaxy City isn't going anywhere. The only thing that is changing is we're losing access to the Galaxy City teleport base beacon. You can still access Echo: Galaxy City through the portal at the rear of Ouroboros, which is now accessible at level 1.

Cool,  GC had always been my choice of starting point back in the day.  I didn’t really want to see it go.

[Freakenstein]

On 10/24/2020 at 7:55 AM, Jimmy said:

 Tarnished Star

• Earned in Doc Buzzsaw's arc (Spoilers in the box below)
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  Fill every jail cell in The Zig during your life as a hero, before becoming a villain and releasing Bile during "The Freakish Lab of Dr. Vahzilok" story arc

Unsure what this means exactly..

Does this involve arcs we should have completed as a hero, and will they count towards filling the zig if done as flashbacks, or is it something else entirely? 0.o

[Outrider_01]

On 10/24/2020 at 5:55 AM, Jimmy said:

•  Brass Hunter
  • Defeat 1000 Nemesis Jaegers
•  Green Machine
  • Defeat 100 Nemesis Warhulks

Noticed its 1000 Jaegers, those are minion class.  So its like upwards of 450,000 to 500,000 damage to complete against a really annoying faction.

 

Rikti monkey badge is 1000 , are underling class.  Level 50 in PI on the island are 175 hps, EZPZ kill and 175,000 damage to complete except when you get hit by a bunch at once .  And not as annoying to kill like Nemesis.

 

Jaeger count should be no more then 500, even if its a common spawn; 1 LT going down and its just not a fun moment when those rainbows light up.

 

And is there Rikti Drone badge ?

[Darmian]

I'm liking that Kallisti Wharf is finally getting an Exploration badge, if only one so far.

 

*poke* (and I feel bad about this because you guys are doing such great work) But there are seven blank plaques in KW just waiting for a History badge.

 

I reckon one of them should be dedicated to the memory of Ezra Cole.  And you know where that one is.  The rest?  Who can tell?

Edited November 2, 2020 by Darmian

[Piyerus]

If they have anything planned for adding story content to KW, they may be holding off on adding all the badges and plaques until they finalize the story. It would suck if they wrote stuff now and then realized later down the line that some of it had to be changed for story reasons. Adding just the one badge is probably for the Teleport accolade, and I imagine the one they chose to add in is the one that's least likely to need to be changed down the line.

[Eva Destruction]

On 11/1/2020 at 5:25 PM, Outrider_01 said:

Noticed its 1000 Jaegers, those are minion class.  So its like upwards of 450,000 to 500,000 damage to complete against a really annoying faction.

 

Rikti monkey badge is 1000 , are underling class.  Level 50 in PI on the island are 175 hps, EZPZ kill and 175,000 damage to complete except when you get hit by a bunch at once .  And not as annoying to kill like Nemesis.

 

Jaeger count should be no more then 500, even if its a common spawn; 1 LT going down and its just not a fun moment when those rainbows light up.

 

I'm fine with 1000.  They spawn in groups all over PI so you can pick off grey-cons, or team up to farm the best Jaeger-farming mission which I'm sure someone has already figured out.

 

250 Sappers on the other hand...yes, they're minions, but they're limited to a maximum of one per spawn and Malta street spawns are rare.  So that's a lot of Malta missions.  I feel like this one should be 100.

[Hew]

Assault and Battery seems cool; I am looking for a replacement for Midnight Bomber, but I have yet to see something along those lines (to me at least). I guess this one would work, but super stunners are hard to find? Suggestions on where to find them?

[Jimmy]

On 11/2/2020 at 5:42 AM, Piyerus said:

If they have anything planned for adding story content to KW, they may be holding off on adding all the badges and plaques until they finalize the story. It would suck if they wrote stuff now and then realized later down the line that some of it had to be changed for story reasons. Adding just the one badge is probably for the Teleport accolade, and I imagine the one they chose to add in is the one that's least likely to need to be changed down the line.

This is correct. This first one was added to allow you to unlock the zone for LRT.

[Jimmy]

Build 3 - November 7th, 2020

 

Badges

Several new badges have been added to the game!

New Defeat Badges

•  Brass Hunter
  • Defeat 1000 Nemesis Jaegers
•  Green Machine
  • Defeat 100 Nemesis Warhulks
•  Brute Forced
  • Defeat 500 points worth of Rularuu Brutes
    • Bosses are worth 5 points, all others are worth 1, like the Praetoria and Dark Astoria defeat badges
•  Winged Nuisance
  • Defeat 500 Rularuu Natterlings of any rank
•  Running on Empty
  • Defeat 250 Malta Sappers
•  Womp Womp
  • Defeat 100 Immature Paragon Protectors
•  Assault and Battery
  • Defeat 50 Freakshow Super Stunners

New Exploration Badges

•  On the Shoulders of Giants
  • Located in Kallisti Wharf

New Story Arc Badges

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•  The Uncivil War
  • Complete Agent Watkins' arc
•  Patient Zero
  • Complete Doc Buzzsaw's arc
•  Containment Specialist
  • Earned in Agent Watkins' arc (Spoilers in the box below)
  • Spoiler

    Turn off the sprinklers before the timer runs out during The Graveyard Shift story arc

     

•  Went Off Script
  • Earned in Agent Watkins' arc (Spoilers in the box below)
  • Spoiler

    Refuse to quarantine during The Graveyard Shift story arc (mission owner only)

     

•  The Greater Good
  • Earned in Agent Watkins' arc (Spoilers in the box below)
  • Spoiler

    Quarantine during The Graveyard Shift story arc (mission owner only)

     

•  Tarnished Star
  • Earned in Doc Buzzsaw's arc (Spoilers in the box below)
  • Spoiler

    Fill every jail cell in The Zig during your life as a hero, before becoming a villain and releasing Bile during "The Freakish Lab of Dr. Vahzilok" story arc

     

 

Existing Badges

•  Loyal Customer
  • This badge now has new artwork (previously it was using the same artwork as the Air Pirate badge)
•  Unabashed
  • Can now be acquired in the instanced Rikti Mothership Raid instead of just in the zone version
•  Visionary
  • Changed from defeating 100 Rularuu Overseers bosses to 500 points worth of Rularuu eyes (Watchers, Observers and Overseers)
    • Bosses are worth 5 points, all others are worth 1, like the Praetoria and Dark Astoria defeat badges
    • Existing badge progress will be transferred (1 boss on the old tracker = 5 points on the new tracker)
•  Monitor Duty
  • No longer increases the rate at which you earn the Monitor Duty (Brain Storm Idea boost) day job power
  • Now increases the rate at which you earn the Monitor Duty Teleporter day job power
•  Day Trader / Marketeer
  • No longer increases the rate at which you earn Day Trader Teleporter / Marketeer's Teleporter day job power
  • Now increases the rate at which you earn the Marketeer (Brain Storm Idea boost) day job power
• Rapid Response Member / Trouble Maker
  • No longer unlocks the Base Teleporter day job power (this power no longer requires unlocking)
  • Now unlocks the Rapid Response Portal day job power
•  Pocket D VIP Gold Club Member
  • No longer unlocks the Pocket D VIP Pass power
  • Now unlocks Pocket D as a Long Range Teleporter destination (and unlocks Long Range Teleporter if you don't already have it)
•  Entrusted with the Secret
  • Moved to the top of the Flashback badge list
  • Ouroboros Portals can now be summoned and entered by characters of any level
  • The requirements to earn this badge have been cleaned up:
    • Completing any Flashback story arc using the Pillar of Ice and Flame will award the badge
    • Completing any story arc given directly by a Mender will award the badge
    • Completing any of the following missions will award the badge:
      • Follow up on Holsten Armitage's claim that Senator Dybalski has been kidnapped by Rikti
      • Defeat Ubelmann the Unknown in Ashwin Lannister or Laurie Pennington's story arc
      • Recover the PsychoChronoMetron or Destroy the PsychoChronoMetron from Agent G
      • Find "The Magic Man" and recover the Devil's Timepiece in Mercedes Shelton's story arc
      • Meet with Botis during Vincent Ross' story arc
      • Any mission with Professor Echo from Marshall Brass
      • Defeat Professor Echo when you encounter him during Pandora's Box story arc
      • Confront Mender Silos in the final mission of the Pandora's Box story arc
      • Travel to the ruined Cap Au Diable from the future in any Patron arc
      • Travel to the ruined Atlas Park from the Future in any Patron arc or the Lord Recluse Strike Force
      • Travel to the Dark Victory version of Atlas Park in Statesman's Task Force
    • Entering any of the following zones will award the badge:
      • Cimerora
      • Ouroboros
      • Recluse's Victory
      • Echo: Atlas Park
      • Echo: Galaxy City
      • Echo: Faultline
      • Echo: Dark Astoria
      • Echo: Rikti Crash Site
    • Entering one of these zones will also award the Ouroboros Portal power if you have somehow managed to lose it

[Kistulot]

On the one hand: new badges? Cool.

 

On the other: defeat badges with such high numbers isn't fun. I know most people are assumed to get them by doing a bunch of content and getting it eventually, but even then, 250 sappers? 1,000 Jaegers? Let's say theoretically you wanted to purposefully get those badges. The time investment is just not fun, and the existing badges aren't all that punishing. Weatherman badge is just 100 outcast bosses, for instance. Why make SO many sappers, so many natterlings, etc etc etc?

Please consider that this won't enhance anyone's fun, and will instead just add time to people who hunt them down when you don't even have the usual MMO reason of wanting to elongate sub time! 🙂

[Glacier Peak]

1 hour ago, Kistulot said:

On the one hand: new badges? Cool.

 

On the other: defeat badges with such high numbers isn't fun. I know most people are assumed to get them by doing a bunch of content and getting it eventually, but even then, 250 sappers? 1,000 Jaegers? Let's say theoretically you wanted to purposefully get those badges. The time investment is just not fun, and the existing badges aren't all that punishing. Weatherman badge is just 100 outcast bosses, for instance. Why make SO many sappers, so many natterlings, etc etc etc?

Please consider that this won't enhance anyone's fun, and will instead just add time to people who hunt them down when you don't even have the usual MMO reason of wanting to elongate sub time! 🙂

I'm gonna have to disagree with your opinion. I like the grind. 

[CrudeVileTerror]

I happen to agree with your assessment for the most part, @Kistulot, buuuuuuut . . . 

Like @Glacier Peak just said, and folks over in https://forums.homecomingservers.com/topic/11935-give-us-grindy-stuff-like-vanguard-and-costume-unlocks-back/

Apparently there's a call for grind.

 

Until the Devs can come up with some other grindable content that is more playstyle non-partisan, I'm certainly willing to concede some ridiculous Badge requirements to the grind-fiends.

[Glacier Peak]

On 11/1/2020 at 9:11 PM, Freakenstein said:

Unsure what this means exactly..

Does this involve arcs we should have completed as a hero, and will they count towards filling the zig if done as flashbacks, or is it something else entirely? 0.o

 

SPOILERS!!!!!!

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TLDR: the Defeats/Badges needed for the Easter Egg are below for convenience. Defeating these enemies will fill up the jail in the mission.

 

These five are found in the Admiral Sutter Task Force(Badge: Land, Sea, & Air / The Sky is Falling):
1.      Primal Col. Duray (thanks @Grouchybeast) as “Pirate”
2.      Praetorian Col. Duray (thanks @Grouchybeast) as “Commander”
3.      Harbinger (thanks @Piecemeal for the final clue/answer) as “Mute”
4.      Jane Temblor (thanks @Grouchybeast) as “Lovebird 1” 
5.      Fusion (thanks @Grouchybeast) as “Lovebird 2”

The next three are found in Striga Island
6.      Archon Burkholder from Ernesto Hess Task Force as “the bane of caldera” (Badge: Burkholder's Bane)
7.      Heracles (thanks to @Grouchybeast) from Stephanie Peebles story arc "Ring of Peebles" as “humble the son of Alcmene”
8.      Arakhn from Moonfire TF as “the cyst-maker” (Badge: Honorary Peacebringer)

Steel Canyon Story Arc
9.      Sun Xiong (@Lines) from Graham Easton's story arc "Last Rites" as “art thief”

Faultline Story Arc from Jim Temblor "Rumblings of the Past" introduced via Doc Delilah contact:
10.    Night Widow Nocturne (thanks @Ironblade) as “the widow whose sub is a goner”
11.    Kurse (thanks @LQT) as “deranged little psychic”

Kings Row Story Arc from Eagle Eye "Lords of Death"
12.    Chernobog Petrovic (thanks to @Grouchybeast) as “Lord of Death 1” 
13.    Veles Petrovic (thanks to @Grouchybeast) as “Lord of Death 2”

Hollows Story Arc from Talshak the Mystic "Heart of the Hollows"
14.    Atta (@Lines) as “met on your trek to the gate”

Synapse Task Force (Badge: Synapse Cohort/Betrayer)
15.    Clockwork King from Synapse TF as “went to court and toppled the monarchy”

Positron Task Force Part Two (Badge: Dam Hero, with prerequisite of Rule of Three Badge)
16.    Dr. Vahzilok as “de-tenured Ph.D.”

Story Arc from Marvin Weintraub (Talos Island) or Collin Larson (IP) "Freaklympics"

17.    Freaklympics Gold Medal Souvenir (@FoulVileTerror great guess!) as the "honor of gold medal fame"

 

 

Edited November 8, 2020 by Jimmy
Jimmy edit: Moved spoilers into spoiler box

[Kistulot]

8 minutes ago, CrudeVileTerror said:

I happen to agree with your assessment for the most part, @Kistulot, buuuuuuut . . . 

Like @Glacier Peak just said, and folks over in https://forums.homecomingservers.com/topic/11935-give-us-grindy-stuff-like-vanguard-and-costume-unlocks-back/

Apparently there's a call for grind.

 

Until the Devs can come up with some other grindable content that is more playstyle non-partisan, I'm certainly willing to concede some ridiculous Badge requirements to the grind-fiends.

If people want a grind they can always chase veteran levels.

There are fun grinds, and there are boring grinds.

Kill 1000 jaegers is the very definition of wasting time to make one number go a little higher. I'll do it if I have to, but there are a lot of better ways someone could make a "do x things" badge than these, and I'll stand by that.

 

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Edited November 8, 2020 by Kistulot

[Glacier Peak]

1 minute ago, Kistulot said:

If people want a grind they can always chase veteran levels.

There are fun grinds, and there are boring grinds.

Kill 1000 jaegers is the very definition of wasting time to make one number go a little higher. I'll do it if I have to, but there are a lot of better ways someone could make a "do x things" badge than these, and I'll stand by that.

 

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Fair enough, agree to disagree. Playing the game is fun for me, I count grinding as playing so we are of different, but no less valid opinions. 

[CrudeVileTerror]

And I'll stand with you, honestly.

I'm just saying that the players who are chomping at the bit for grind are in need of a bone thrown to them right now.

 . . . if for no other reason than to keep them away from turning costumes in to grindable unlocks.  (I kid!   Mostly . . . please don't grind me to death, grinders!)

[GM Tock]

9 minutes ago, Glacier Peak said:

MODS PLEASE ADD SPOILERS I CAN'T FIND BUTTON ON MOBILE

Banner added instead. 👍

[Giovanni Valia]

I'm thrilled we're getting more badges added. 1,000 seems a bit steep for the jaegers, but it's not a required badge for powers/ abilities, so why rush it? Heck, if previous defeats counted for the badge I'd think many would have it already through normal game-play.

[CrudeVileTerror]

I believe @Jimmy stated that previous counts will not happen, since the game doesn't currently have any counting code for those specific targets right now.

[Piecemeal]

On 10/29/2020 at 11:55 PM, EmperorSteele said:

RE: Womp Womp

By my calculations, I have to do the new redside arc 10 times to get this badge, as the "Immature" PPs only spawn as an ambush during one fight. It doesn't seem to include 7th gen PPs.

That's... a bit much. Unless they're gonna be making appearances elsewhere, I think "forcing" badgers to farm out the same mission 10 times is a bit redonk. Like, all the other enemies can be found elsewhere and you can gain the badges naturally. But this one? UGH. Not looking forward to this one on Live!

There are now five waves of IPPs and they will always spawn when Fuzzy Lumpkins is at 25% health. They are not programmed to overwhelm, so they should be waiting until the previous wave drops before spawning another. Each wave has unique dialog now, for additional moral ambiguity,