Taedae Posted November 12, 2021 Posted November 12, 2021 The title pretty much covers it. What are some of the worst build combinations in your opinion (prim/sec) and why?
Greycat Posted November 12, 2021 Posted November 12, 2021 "Worst" meaning what, first... Kheldian Lore and Backstory Guide 2.0: HC edition Out to EAT : A look at Epic ATs - what is, could have been, and never was Want 20 merits? Got a couple of minutes? Mini guide to the Combat Attributes window
Snarky Posted November 12, 2021 Posted November 12, 2021 I have a Storm Water Blast Defender i cannot even bring myself to run. The knockback…… it….its alive!!! 2
SeraphimKensai Posted November 12, 2021 Posted November 12, 2021 I can't stand my original toon an elec/elec blaster, but maybe that's because that was back in CoH Beta and I was still learning the game.
Taemeluch Posted November 12, 2021 Posted November 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Greycat said: "Worst" meaning what, first... I meant the 2 powersets that just dont work together. For me, it is Earth/Thorns tanker/brute builds.....ugh
Without_Pause Posted November 12, 2021 Posted November 12, 2021 I felt like trying to list a combo meant more I found a certain power set lacking versus it combing with something. The post showing user stats up at the top of the forum shows the least popular combos so any of those are likely what you are looking for. Top 10 Most Fun 50s. 1. Without Mercy: Claws/ea Scrapper. 2. Outsmart: Fort 3. Sneakers: Stj/ea Stalker. 4. Emma Strange: Ill/dark Controller. 5. Project Next: Ice/stone Brute. 6. Waterpark: Water/temp Blaster. 6. Mighty Matt: Rad/bio Brute. 7. Without Hesitation: Claws/sr Scrapper. 8. Within Reach: Axe/stone Brute. 9. Without Pause: Claws/wp Brute. 10. Chasing Fireworks: Fire/time Controller. "Downtime is for mortals. Debt is temporary. Fame is forever."
Snarky Posted November 12, 2021 Posted November 12, 2021 5 hours ago, SeraphimKensai said: I can't stand my original toon an elec/elec blaster, but maybe that's because that was back in CoH Beta and I was still learning the game. They are making Serious changes to Elec Blast in the stuff that is coming out…..very soon. If you want to give that beautiful combo a second go this would be the time.
Carnifax Posted November 12, 2021 Posted November 12, 2021 I hated my 20-something Rad/Elec Brute with a vengence. Sloooooow melee attacks and a rather boring secondary where End is a constant issue til the 30s, then it buggers off entirely. And this is as someone with an Ice/Traps Controller I happily played to 50. 2 My level 50 builds [Bullitt Time : DP/Kin Corruptor] [Carnifax : Ill/Dark Controller] [Kerriae : Plant/Storm Controller] [Echinoderm : Bio/Spines Tank] [Iron Brew : Mace/Rad Brute] [Snookered : Staff/NRG Brute] [iScream : Ice/Ice Scrapper] [Binman : Savage/Shield Stalker] [Modul-8 : Time/Sonic Defender] [Concussion Blast : Fire/NRG Domi] [Orblivion : Dark/Martial Domi] [Mombie : Necro/Nature MM] [Tempore : Water/Time Blaster] [Thermodynamic Flux : Ice/Fire Blaster] [Carni's Online CombatLog Parser Alpha]
Andreah Posted November 12, 2021 Posted November 12, 2021 5 hours ago, Without_Pause said: The post showing user stats up at the top of the forum shows the least popular combos so any of those are likely what you are looking for. I wonder if that's still representative. There's been a few substantial changes since then.
Gwyrddu Posted November 12, 2021 Posted November 12, 2021 29 minutes ago, Carnifax said: I hated my 20-something Rad/Elec Brute with a vengence. Sloooooow melee attacks and a rather boring secondary where End is a constant issue til the 30s, then it buggers off entirely. And this is as someone with an Ice/Traps Controller I happily played to 50. I have a level 25 rad/elec brute right now, and it certainly seems to be getting more viable as I level up. The speed bump from lightning reflexes means I don't need to toggle/detoggle sprint every battle anymore, and a simple Theft of Essence in Radiation Siphon has done a lot by itself to combat endurance drain. Slow attacks don't matter to me as much when you have two damaging auras killing everything around you. Even among the dozen or so characters I'm playing I don't think my brute is the worst, as both my fire/savage dom and dp/cold corrupter manage to have both endurance issues and survival issues.
Six-Six Posted November 12, 2021 Posted November 12, 2021 I guess this is purely subjective. Something not enjoyable for someone may be a tonne of fun for another. @SeraphimKensai's Elec/Elec Blaster is one of my faves, and I'm the total opposite of @Snarky's aversion for knockback (slotting Storm for MOAR KB). The only reason I've discontinued certain toon concepts is based on how their powers gel... which is solely based on power animations. It's like the opposite of Pistols/Martial or Pistols/Ninja when drawing your guns work well with a sweeping kick or a sudden katana strike. I suppose the biggest hindrance is putting away your weapon to use your hands for a power, hence the janky redraw. But then that's just me. Why don't we wait for Diantane to chime in. 3 3 My Toons
SeraphimKensai Posted November 12, 2021 Posted November 12, 2021 18 minutes ago, Six-Six said: I guess this is purely subjective. Something not enjoyable for someone may be a tonne of fun for another. @SeraphimKensai's Elec/Elec Blaster is one of my faves I'm sure if I tried an elec/elec now it would be fine, that was back in the spring of 2004 when I was at the debt cap by lvl 9. Since then I've taken both elec blast and elec manipulation to 50 and IO'd both, I just haven't used both together since then.
Carnifax Posted November 12, 2021 Posted November 12, 2021 58 minutes ago, Gwyrddu said: I have a level 25 rad/elec brute right now, and it certainly seems to be getting more viable as I level up. The speed bump from lightning reflexes means I don't need to toggle/detoggle sprint every battle anymore, and a simple Theft of Essence in Radiation Siphon has done a lot by itself to combat endurance drain. Slow attacks don't matter to me as much when you have two damaging auras killing everything around you. Even among the dozen or so characters I'm playing I don't think my brute is the worst, as both my fire/savage dom and dp/cold corrupter manage to have both endurance issues and survival issues. Yep, I think it was just "Well this just feels slow / clunky and my End sucks". Which is does but like you say it's constantly pinging out damage via 2 damage auras. I ended up finding more 'immediate' Brutes like Mace/Rad more enjoyable. My level 50 builds [Bullitt Time : DP/Kin Corruptor] [Carnifax : Ill/Dark Controller] [Kerriae : Plant/Storm Controller] [Echinoderm : Bio/Spines Tank] [Iron Brew : Mace/Rad Brute] [Snookered : Staff/NRG Brute] [iScream : Ice/Ice Scrapper] [Binman : Savage/Shield Stalker] [Modul-8 : Time/Sonic Defender] [Concussion Blast : Fire/NRG Domi] [Orblivion : Dark/Martial Domi] [Mombie : Necro/Nature MM] [Tempore : Water/Time Blaster] [Thermodynamic Flux : Ice/Fire Blaster] [Carni's Online CombatLog Parser Alpha]
Shred Monkey Posted November 12, 2021 Posted November 12, 2021 Any/Any Defender. 1 2 Active on Excelsior: Prismatic Monkey - Seismic / Martial Blaster, Shadow Dragon Monkey - Staff / Dark Brute, Murder Robot Monkey - Arachnos Night Widow
Braddack Posted November 12, 2021 Posted November 12, 2021 i have an Sonic / Ice Armor Sentinel. Okay hes quite Tanky, but the Daaaamage is missing.
Lusiphur Malache Posted November 12, 2021 Posted November 12, 2021 I have a dark/poison controller that quite possibly be the worst time I've had with a toon. Only played it to give sg leader a break from playing her controller. If I'm determined I can 50 most ranged in a month, but that controller took me every second of 6 months.
Bionic_Flea Posted November 12, 2021 Posted November 12, 2021 I think the worst combo I ever came up with was Assault Rifle/Ice Armor Sentinel. I made it to 50 but it was painful.
The_Warpact Posted November 12, 2021 Posted November 12, 2021 None if you know how to play or build it correctly noobs. *runs out back door* 1 8 https://www.twitch.tv/boomie373 The Revenants twitch channel, come watch us face plant, talk smack, and attempt to be world class villains.
Carnifax Posted November 12, 2021 Posted November 12, 2021 23 minutes ago, Shred Monkey said: Any/Any Defender. I'm planning a Poison / Elec for Page whateverthehellthisoneisinbeta And I do like my Time/Sonic. Mostly for the deranged SFX. "whEEEEE. wOooooOOOO. RaaaaaaAAAAA" My level 50 builds [Bullitt Time : DP/Kin Corruptor] [Carnifax : Ill/Dark Controller] [Kerriae : Plant/Storm Controller] [Echinoderm : Bio/Spines Tank] [Iron Brew : Mace/Rad Brute] [Snookered : Staff/NRG Brute] [iScream : Ice/Ice Scrapper] [Binman : Savage/Shield Stalker] [Modul-8 : Time/Sonic Defender] [Concussion Blast : Fire/NRG Domi] [Orblivion : Dark/Martial Domi] [Mombie : Necro/Nature MM] [Tempore : Water/Time Blaster] [Thermodynamic Flux : Ice/Fire Blaster] [Carni's Online CombatLog Parser Alpha]
srmalloy Posted November 12, 2021 Posted November 12, 2021 I have an Ice/Plant Blaster that is uncomfortable to play; she's got control out the wazoo, but it's like playing a Controller without Containment or the prospect of getting a pet at 32 to make up for the lack of intrinsic damage.
starro Posted November 12, 2021 Posted November 12, 2021 (edited) Sonic and pain combo on sentinel. I want to like this guy but he has zero solo survival Correction: Corrupter!!!! Edited November 12, 2021 by starro "She who lives by the cybernetic monstrosity powered by living coral, all too often dies by the cybernetic monstrosity powered by living coral." -Doc Buzzsaw Pineapple 🍍 Pizza 🍕 is my thumbs up.
The_Warpact Posted November 12, 2021 Posted November 12, 2021 16 minutes ago, starro said: Sonic and pain combo on sentinel. I want to like this guy but he has zero solo survival Pain on a Sent??? Did I miss something? https://www.twitch.tv/boomie373 The Revenants twitch channel, come watch us face plant, talk smack, and attempt to be world class villains.
Alchemystic Posted November 12, 2021 Posted November 12, 2021 Force Field/Psionic Defenders for soloing 1
JasperStone Posted November 12, 2021 Posted November 12, 2021 My character on Live was an Emp/Elec Defender. Made it here and it is kinda of pointless in the current form of the game. Empathy is not necessary anymore and the endurance drain is pointless. May reroll to /Elec Affinity just to keep the theme. Thugs/Trap MM loved it on Live ... but now the way teams can steam roll through content /Traps can be challenging. In truth you just have to find a way to make the powers work in the given situation. Forums - a place, meeting, or medium where ideas and views on a particular issue can be exchanged. "it will be a forum for consumers to exchange their views on medical research" Spam Response- Spam, in the context of cybersecurity, refers to any unsolicited and often irrelevant or inappropriate messages sent over the internet.
Aeroprism Posted November 12, 2021 Posted November 12, 2021 Over the years, there were quite a few choices that didn't work for me but I'd be very hard pressed to admit that there are combos that universally suck for absolutely everyone. I suck at blasters/corrupters as a whole and I can't play a defender to save my life, but it's not because my Fire/fire blaster eats more concrete than inspirations that it's the case for everyone,
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