Troo Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 @Cipher @Cipher @Cipher I can't remember if it is 3 players saying their name 3 times or asking for it repeatedly-non-stop-over-years which makes them appear and update. I wish I could just remember.. 😛 3 "Homecoming is not perfect but it is still better than the alternative.. at least so far" - Unknown (Wise words Unknown!) Si vis pacem, para bellum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glacier Peak Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 I don't know what the stats are, but I've been digging the Mastermind changes, I rolled a Ninja/Trick Arrow that feels really good - albeit I never played a Mastermind before, so I have nothing to compare it to. I also tried a Storm/Storm Defender, which has been a slow leveling character. Enjoying the concept more than the powerset, but I'm hoping to have a better perspective when I get it in to the 20s and 30s. I'm excited to see what becomes of the Peacebringer/Warshade changling exploit - though I've read no explicit words from the Homecoming team about when that will occur. I lead weekly Indom Badge Runs / A newer giant monster guide by Glacier Peak / A tour of Pocket D easter eggs! / Arena All-Star Accolade Guide! Best Post Ever.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Without_Pause Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 It still irks me the HC team put out data and then simply stopped doing that. I feel like the changes to existing sets have given various sets a boon to how good they are. I'm still not sure how many if any of the new sets have really stood out. Case in point, I think Symphony is a really good set. I just don't think it is S tier. I understand why changes were made to Dark when ported over to Controllers, but it is really difficult to not see it being the best set for Controllers. It feel like Radiation Emission has taken a bit of a back seat to it. 1 Top 10 Most Fun 50s. 1. Without Mercy: Claws/ea Scrapper. 2. Outsmart: Fort 3. Sneakers: Stj/ea Stalker. 4. Emma Strange: Ill/dark Controller. 5. Project Next: Ice/stone Brute. 6. Waterpark: Water/temp Blaster. 6. Mighty Matt: Rad/bio Brute. 7. Without Hesitation: Claws/sr Scrapper. 8. Within Reach: Axe/stone Brute. 9. Without Pause: Claws/wp Brute. 10. Chasing Fireworks: Fire/time Controller. "Downtime is for mortals. Debt is temporary. Fame is forever." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaghetti Betty Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 The flavor of the month is the same for every month: rocky road! 1 Mainly on Excelsior. Find me in game @Spaghetti Betty. AE Arcs: Big Magic Blowout! 41612 | The Meta-Human Wrestling Association 44683 | MHWA Part 2 48577 Click to look at my pets! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeraphimKensai Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 I know i'm a sucker for stats, and miss this kind of data. As I said before, I'd even be happy with a dataset dump and no need for fancy graphs. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAxe Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 I've been wanting an update for a while too. Would be really interesting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitCook Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 16 hours ago, Without_Pause said: I understand why changes were made to Dark when ported over to Controllers, but it is really difficult to not see it being the best set for Controllers. That is a VERY bold and sweeping statement. I can make cases for lots of controller secondaries and much of that depends on what you are trying to do. For certain toons, yes, /Dark is the best and there's no doubt it's very strong. But, there are also other very strong picks as well and it is clearly not the best in all cases. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saiyajinzoningen Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 Blueberry cheesecake jk this month is grav/time troll for me its slow, deliberate, flashy and weak as all hell but damn if it isn't fun Its easy to criticize a suggestion but can you suggest an alternative? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Without_Pause Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 1 hour ago, BitCook said: That is a VERY bold and sweeping statement. I can make cases for lots of controller secondaries and much of that depends on what you are trying to do. For certain toons, yes, /Dark is the best and there's no doubt it's very strong. But, there are also other very strong picks as well and it is clearly not the best in all cases. /time is really close. I have done Fire/time to 50 so more playing needs to be done. I thought I was done with my Time build despite it being my most reworked build, and then I played it after another respec, and it died 5 times on a two floor map. Ranged Def just isn't quite there yet so I just kept getting mezzed, but I switched one IO set and Incarnates will cap it off as will having Clarion. At one point it was essentially soloing at the same diff as what my Brute was although slower, so x8 Carnie mission is just a current stumbling block. Outside of the buffs/debuffs, I look for things like adding Def, End management, and Recharge. Dark has two of them and Recharge can be covered via Incarnates, and it's Debuffs are really good. I have two Level 50 /darks. Granted Ill is cheat code, but I think I'm going to be rather happy with my Dark/dark once I find a build for it and slot it. Top 10 Most Fun 50s. 1. Without Mercy: Claws/ea Scrapper. 2. Outsmart: Fort 3. Sneakers: Stj/ea Stalker. 4. Emma Strange: Ill/dark Controller. 5. Project Next: Ice/stone Brute. 6. Waterpark: Water/temp Blaster. 6. Mighty Matt: Rad/bio Brute. 7. Without Hesitation: Claws/sr Scrapper. 8. Within Reach: Axe/stone Brute. 9. Without Pause: Claws/wp Brute. 10. Chasing Fireworks: Fire/time Controller. "Downtime is for mortals. Debt is temporary. Fame is forever." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High_Beam Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 14 hours ago, Spaghetti Betty said: The flavor of the month is the same for every month: rocky road! That is the number one seed. But real marshmallows, not that fluff swirl shit. And almonds,. make it right you mooks! Girls of Nukem High - Excelsior - Tempus Fabulous, Flattery, Jennifer Chilly, Betty Beatdown, Totally Cali, Two Gun Trixie Babes of War - Excelsior - High Beam (Yay), Di Di Guns, Runeslinger, Munitions Mistress, Tideway, Hard Melody, Blue Aria Many alts and lots of fun. Thank you Name Release For letting me get my OG main back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreah Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 17 hours ago, SeraphimKensai said: I know i'm a sucker for stats, and miss this kind of data. As I said before, I'd even be happy with a dataset dump and no need for fancy graphs. If they would dump the data, suitably anonymized, we could make the graphs for them. ^_^ 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Without_Pause Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 Rocky Road has been second tier for me. I should have it again though. 1. Peanut Butter Cup. Prefer Chocolate ice cream with Peanut Butter. 2. Sea Salt Caramel. 3. Blue Moon. Regional to the Great Lakes area. It tends to be the blue stuff in Superman ice cream. I've done it with Rock 'n' Rye pop and called it a Pure Michigan Float. 3. Mint Chocolate Chip. I've had way too much of this even if other flavors might be 'better.' Mint is just a great after meal flavor to have. Honorable mentions. Pretty much any sort of tropical ice cream. That in the right setting is just divine. Vanilla ice cream, but like vanilla bean type where the vanilla is rather pronounced. Plus, vanilla is just so versatile as it works so well with cake, pie, and floats. Americone Dream. I don't understand why they just didn't add in the nuts. One of the only celebrity items that I actually genuinely like. Butter Pecan. Honestly, they could get rid of the pecans and I would be happy. There are like a ton of others, but those stand out right now. Back on topic, I've been playing Claws and EA via two ATs, and really liking my Ill/dark. 1 Top 10 Most Fun 50s. 1. Without Mercy: Claws/ea Scrapper. 2. Outsmart: Fort 3. Sneakers: Stj/ea Stalker. 4. Emma Strange: Ill/dark Controller. 5. Project Next: Ice/stone Brute. 6. Waterpark: Water/temp Blaster. 6. Mighty Matt: Rad/bio Brute. 7. Without Hesitation: Claws/sr Scrapper. 8. Within Reach: Axe/stone Brute. 9. Without Pause: Claws/wp Brute. 10. Chasing Fireworks: Fire/time Controller. "Downtime is for mortals. Debt is temporary. Fame is forever." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Without_Pause Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 Just now, Andreah said: If they would dump the data, suitably anonymized, we could make the graphs for them. ^_^ Generate the data via an API and let the geeks take care of the rest. 1 1 Top 10 Most Fun 50s. 1. Without Mercy: Claws/ea Scrapper. 2. Outsmart: Fort 3. Sneakers: Stj/ea Stalker. 4. Emma Strange: Ill/dark Controller. 5. Project Next: Ice/stone Brute. 6. Waterpark: Water/temp Blaster. 6. Mighty Matt: Rad/bio Brute. 7. Without Hesitation: Claws/sr Scrapper. 8. Within Reach: Axe/stone Brute. 9. Without Pause: Claws/wp Brute. 10. Chasing Fireworks: Fire/time Controller. "Downtime is for mortals. Debt is temporary. Fame is forever." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaghetti Betty Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Without_Pause said: Rocky Road has been second tier for me. I should have it again though. 1. Peanut Butter Cup. Prefer Chocolate ice cream with Peanut Butter. 2. Sea Salt Caramel. 3. Blue Moon. Regional to the Great Lakes area. It tends to be the blue stuff in Superman ice cream. I've done it with Rock 'n' Rye pop and called it a Pure Michigan Float. 3. Mint Chocolate Chip. I've had way too much of this even if other flavors might be 'better.' Mint is just a great after meal flavor to have. Honorable mentions. Pretty much any sort of tropical ice cream. That in the right setting is just divine. Vanilla ice cream, but like vanilla bean type where the vanilla is rather pronounced. Plus, vanilla is just so versatile as it works so well with cake, pie, and floats. Americone Dream. I don't understand why they just didn't add in the nuts. One of the only celebrity items that I actually genuinely like. Butter Pecan. Honestly, they could get rid of the pecans and I would be happy. There are like a ton of others, but those stand out right now. Back on topic, I've been playing Claws and EA via two ATs, and really liking my Ill/dark. I chose rocky road because it's my favorite non-regional flavor. This is my actual favorite! I almost forgot to mention that Faygo is my favorite soda brand too! It's really hard to find down here. Edited September 18, 2023 by Spaghetti Betty 1 Mainly on Excelsior. Find me in game @Spaghetti Betty. AE Arcs: Big Magic Blowout! 41612 | The Meta-Human Wrestling Association 44683 | MHWA Part 2 48577 Click to look at my pets! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Cat Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 For me, it's caramel butter pecan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oubliette_Red Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 Dislike certain sounds? Silence/Modify specific sounds. Looking for modified whole powerset sfx? Check out Michiyo's modder or Solerverse's thread. Got a punny character? You should share it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snarky Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 Snarky Snarky Snarky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoonSheep Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 On 9/18/2023 at 12:48 AM, Without_Pause said: I'm still not sure how many if any of the new sets have really stood out. Case in point, it would be nice to have a new powerset that isn’t accompanied by a goofy combo mechanic 1 If you're not dying you're not living Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Without_Pause Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 6 hours ago, MoonSheep said: it would be nice to have a new powerset that isn’t accompanied by a goofy combo mechanic I don't mind them so much if they are a bit flexible. DB's combo system can die in a fire. More so when there is no combo which works best for DPS. You gave something a combo system so a player can ignore it. Here's your sign. I rolled a BA/stone Brute due to how much it was going to overperform. I dinged Level 20, and so far so good. Top 10 Most Fun 50s. 1. Without Mercy: Claws/ea Scrapper. 2. Outsmart: Fort 3. Sneakers: Stj/ea Stalker. 4. Emma Strange: Ill/dark Controller. 5. Project Next: Ice/stone Brute. 6. Waterpark: Water/temp Blaster. 6. Mighty Matt: Rad/bio Brute. 7. Without Hesitation: Claws/sr Scrapper. 8. Within Reach: Axe/stone Brute. 9. Without Pause: Claws/wp Brute. 10. Chasing Fireworks: Fire/time Controller. "Downtime is for mortals. Debt is temporary. Fame is forever." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solarverse Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 On 9/17/2023 at 7:48 PM, Without_Pause said: It still irks me the HC team put out data and then simply stopped doing that. I feel like the changes to existing sets have given various sets a boon to how good they are. I'm still not sure how many if any of the new sets have really stood out. Case in point, I think Symphony is a really good set. I just don't think it is S tier. I understand why changes were made to Dark when ported over to Controllers, but it is really difficult to not see it being the best set for Controllers. It feel like Radiation Emission has taken a bit of a back seat to it. Agreed. It is a great set, has almost all of the basics, even down to -KB in the AoE Immob (Something I cannot figure out for the life of me is not the case with Gravity...) but what it lacks is any unique flavor to it and it lacks any type of debuff in the set. No -Acc, no -Resist, no -Defense, nothing. However, I think this makes the set the absolute perfect beginner's set and fun for OG players as well. Having said that, Stone, Ice and Plant are miles beyond the set and far more powerful. SFX and Music Mods by Solarverse (Consolidated) WP/EM God Mode Tank Guide and Build Help Support the Return of Missing Code for Sound Files! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snarky Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 10 hours ago, MoonSheep said: it would be nice to have a new powerset that isn’t accompanied by a goofy combo mechanic I have always been mystified why some powersets have such oddball “boost” or “ buff” powers when most of the rest of that AT get the exact same one. Which is better 90% time. Some sets have fans, but mostly it is “okay, who wants to date Lurch?” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FFFF Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 On 9/18/2023 at 2:22 PM, Without_Pause said: Rocky Road has been second tier for me. I should have it again though. 1. Peanut Butter Cup. Prefer Chocolate ice cream with Peanut Butter. 2. Sea Salt Caramel. 3. Blue Moon. Regional to the Great Lakes area. It tends to be the blue stuff in Superman ice cream. I've done it with Rock 'n' Rye pop and called it a Pure Michigan Float. 3. Mint Chocolate Chip. I've had way too much of this even if other flavors might be 'better.' Mint is just a great after meal flavor to have. Honorable mentions. Pretty much any sort of tropical ice cream. That in the right setting is just divine. Vanilla ice cream, but like vanilla bean type where the vanilla is rather pronounced. Plus, vanilla is just so versatile as it works so well with cake, pie, and floats. Americone Dream. I don't understand why they just didn't add in the nuts. One of the only celebrity items that I actually genuinely like. Butter Pecan. Honestly, they could get rid of the pecans and I would be happy. There are like a ton of others, but those stand out right now. Back on topic, I've been playing Claws and EA via two ATs, and really liking my Ill/dark. I'm in Portland, home of Salt n Straw, and able to partake some extraordinary flavors: Salted Malted Chocolate Chip Cooke Dough Strawberry Honey Balsamic with Black Pepper Honey Lavander Pear and Blue Cheese While I like all of the above, I usually settle for Double Fold Vanilla (their house vanilla) or their Sea Salt with Caramel Ribbons (their house Sea Salt Caramel) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Troo Posted November 10, 2023 Author Share Posted November 10, 2023 On 9/17/2023 at 9:45 AM, Troo said: @Cipher @Cipher @Cipher I can't remember if it is 3 players saying their name 3 times or asking for it repeatedly-non-stop-over-years which makes them appear and update. I wish I could just remember.. 😛 @Cipher we have gobs of left over tricker treaties if that helps beg borrow steal our way to a data dump. we can find a volunteer to pretty it up for you if some many hands make short work effort is a prerequisite. what can we doooo? "Homecoming is not perfect but it is still better than the alternative.. at least so far" - Unknown (Wise words Unknown!) Si vis pacem, para bellum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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