Wait... no Super Strength for Scrappers?

[MunkiLord]

3 hours ago, Haijinx said:

harder than Crushing Uppercut?

Yes, the Dom's base damage for Seismic Smash is 218.3 and Scrapper base damage for Crushing Uppercut is 218.8 and Seismic Smash has a shorter recharge and activation charge. 

[skoryy]

On 2/20/2020 at 12:40 AM, hejtmane said:

The original devs even had concerns with rage and scrappers double stacked rage on a scrapper sounds dumb and stack it with shield charge bahaha that be stupid fun and most likely broken

Yup.  You either nerf Rage with the resulting tanker/brute drama. Or you don't proliferate and get this thread.

[MunkiLord]

3 hours ago, skoryy said:

Yup.  You either nerf Rage with the resulting tanker/brute drama. Or you don't proliferate and get this thread.

I think a potential solution is bring it to Scrappers with changes and see how it works out before changing Rage on the other ATs. Use Scrappers as test crash dummies. It's a win-win. Scrappers get SS and we can test Rage changes before impacting existing versions of the set. 

[skoryy]

4 hours ago, MunkiLord said:

I think a potential solution is bring it to Scrappers with changes and see how it works out before changing Rage on the other ATs. Use Scrappers as test crash dummies. It's a win-win. Scrappers get SS and we can test Rage changes before impacting existing versions of the set. 

Yeah, but if it's not OP, we're still in dramaville where tanks won't want the changes proliferated and scraps are upset they're not getting the good SS.

 

The plan for a Rage rework is for the dev team to finish the resist rebalance first, and I inagine the set's not coming over until both are done.

[honoroit]

Super strength scraps? Yes pls, proliferation!

 

Tanks can cry. 

 

 

[Haijinx]

On 2/21/2020 at 7:26 AM, MunkiLord said:

Yes, the Dom's base damage for Seismic Smash is 218.3 and Scrapper base damage for Crushing Uppercut is 218.8 and Seismic Smash has a shorter recharge and activation charge. 

Crushing uppercut has combo level based specials and extra damage though?

 

But you could add time to recharge to balance it if need be.  Or lower the damage.  

[Haijinx]

10 hours ago, skoryy said:

Yup.  You either nerf Rage with the resulting tanker/brute drama. Or you don't proliferate and get this thread.

Rage could be "nerfed" for Scrappers only though. 

 

Recharge times/ base damage could also be rebalanced. 

 

For example.  Rage could be a 62.5 +damage toggle for Scrappers.   Jab could have a 4 second Recharge, Punch 8, Haymaker 12.  

 

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You'd need the higher base damage for the SS Stalkers anyhow, since they won't get Rage, because buildup. 

Edited February 24, 2020 by Haijinx

[Camel]

On 2/19/2020 at 11:40 PM, hejtmane said:

The original devs even had concerns with rage and scrappers double stacked rage on a scrapper sounds dumb and stack it with shield charge bahaha that be stupid fun and most likely broken

I think a small stacking buff may work. Make it stack to 5, add a 20% damage increase for each stack, then have a 2 attack debuff or something. Not as extreme as it is now, but maybe add a -50% damage debuff for those two attacks. Maybe even keep the defense debuff for a short duration too.

Edited February 24, 2020 by cazden121

[Haijinx]

4 hours ago, skoryy said:

Yeah, but if it's not OP, we're still in dramaville where tanks won't want the changes proliferated and scraps are upset they're not getting the good SS.

 

The plan for a Rage rework is for the dev team to finish the resist rebalance first, and I inagine the set's not coming over until both are done.

They will never fix Rage though.  

 

Never.  

[MunkiLord]

6 hours ago, Haijinx said:

Crushing uppercut has combo level based specials and extra damage though?

 

But you could add time to recharge to balance it if need be.  Or lower the damage.  

I totally forgot to factor that in. Damage for Crushing Uppercut very well might be better. 

[Vindicator]

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Edited September 8, 2020 by Vindicator

[Vindicator]

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Edited September 8, 2020 by Vindicator

[MunkiLord]

Whiny ass Tanks and Brutes crying about Rage are the biggest problem to Scrappers getting Super Strength. I say do whatever they wanna do to Rage, and just remove Tankers and Brutes from the game, problem solved.

[CKent83]

Next, Scrappers will want Demon Summoning.

Edited March 25, 2020 by CKent83
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[Sir Myshkin]

Scrappers already have Demon Summoning, it's called "Invite more Scrappers to the team."

[MunkiLord]

Just now, Sir Myshkin said:

Scrappers already have Demon Summoning, it's called "Invite more Scrappers to the team."

You get it

[hejtmane]

17 hours ago, CKent83 said:

Next, Scrappers will want Demon Summoning.

I thought I was the demon that was summoned did I miss something

[Vindicator]

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Edited September 8, 2020 by Vindicator

[hejtmane]

32 minutes ago, Vindicator said:

Super Strength for Scrappers, please!

Just drop it on dev for us to test to see how bad we can break it and then we have a base line

[Tantricsecrets]

Change rage into buildup, problem solved. 

[Haijinx]

22 hours ago, Tantricsecrets said:

Change rage into buildup, problem solved. 

Wont work unless you change the recharge on Jab, Punch and Haymaker (Basically double them, so base damage is a normal Primary level) 

 

But sure - that would work at that point. 

[Frostweaver]

Not sure ity's going to happen unless they give it a stalker-over.

Rage is too powerful for a scrapper set.

Edited May 28, 2020 by Frostweaver

[MunkiLord]

11 hours ago, Frostweaver said:

Not sure ity's going to happen unless they give it a stalker-over.

Rage is too powerful for a scrapper set.

You're likely right, BUT! I really want it! 

[Vindicator]

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Edited September 8, 2020 by Vindicator

[ShardWarrior]

On 8/28/2019 at 10:46 PM, biostem said:

I want to see an "Inferior Strength" set, where enemies die from laughter at how ineffectual you are.  😉

 

Forgive the title.  It is not mine.