Yomo Kimyata Posted Wednesday at 04:20 PM Posted Wednesday at 04:20 PM When I think of the name Suggestions Forum, I think of a Suggestions Box where people anonymously suggest ideas that are examined by management. Sometimes the slot in the box leads directly to a shredder, but at least the people who post feel some level of agency. The current Suggestions Forum is, in my opinion, not working for me. It's a great way to enflame people and stir up the pot if I want to get some stranger's blood pressure on the rise, but it is terrible for making suggestions that are intended to improve the game, either for my own personal play or for the population as a whole. What I would really love is some sort of input or direction from those who command. If someone makes a suggestion that is blatantly self-serving, some sort of comment like, "We will take that under advisement, but it doesn't seem to advance our goals at this time." If it's a really good interesting idea, how about, "That is an interesting idea." If it is technologically unfeasible, how about, "That is currently technically unfeasible." Or even a plain /jranger from a bolded name, so we know it's a non-starter and we can move on with our lives. Also, unless we can work in some sort of feedback mechanism, how about changing the name of the Forum to Opinions Forum? Nobody expects feedback on our opinions, and that way we know we are walking into an interweb fight when we post. I'm just spitballing here, and I'm trying not to be snarky or Snarky. And maybe I'm in a tiny minority of feeling unheard (and I understand that Discord might address some of this, but I cannot use Discord for various physiological reasons, and if Discord is to be the be all and end all, maybe we should shut down these forums to keep things fair and consistent?) 1 1 Who run Bartertown?
tidge Posted yesterday at 11:05 AM Posted yesterday at 11:05 AM 18 hours ago, Yomo Kimyata said: When I think of the name Suggestions Forum, I think of a Suggestions Box where people anonymously suggest ideas that are examined by management. Sometimes the slot in the box leads directly to a shredder, but at least the people who post feel some level of agency. As long as none of the suggestion are made public, and everyone who makes a suggestion will accept that the suggestion will be discarded unread, this seems perfectly acceptable. 1
battlewraith Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 21 hours ago, Yomo Kimyata said: And maybe I'm in a tiny minority of feeling unheard I don't think so. I think the actual function of the suggestions forum is to discourage people from making suggestions. There is a small cohort of players who reside there to shut the majority of ideas down. Then there is no apparent connection between anything discussed there and actual development. There is also no clear indication of whether anyone that actually matters would read that stuff on the website or in Discord. I think the honest thing to do would be to spare players who have something to say a bad experience. Get rid of that subforum altogether and instruct players who want to have more input on development to get involved in Closed Beta discussions. 1 2
lemming Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago I do know the devs pay some attention to the suggestion forums, and I've often noticed some glimmers of information, even among some of the more odd threads. Maybe it's because I've dealt with flame wars in the 80s and been yelled at by a CEO more than once, I have a fairly thick skin most of the time.
arcane Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago 23 hours ago, Yomo Kimyata said: Also, unless we can work in some sort of feedback mechanism I… think that’s what thread replies might be. Did you guys think the subforum was called “Suggestions & Developer Feedback” or something? I’m sure Yomo himself is better than this, but this thread is clearly just red meat for the “small cohort of players” who can’t handle disagreement without losing their shit.
battlewraith Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago 20 minutes ago, arcane said: but this thread is clearly just red meat for the “small cohort of players” who can’t handle disagreement without losing their shit. Which sounds exactly like what someone who "can't handle disagreement without losing their shit" would say. 1
arcane Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago 11 minutes ago, battlewraith said: Which sounds exactly like what someone who "can't handle disagreement without losing their shit" would say. Lol. Cuz I’m the one advocating for people to stop speaking. The genius behind Saga Mode strikes again. 1
battlewraith Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago 29 minutes ago, arcane said: Lol. Cuz I’m the one advocating for people to stop speaking. The genius behind Saga Mode strikes again. No , you're the one who can't handle disagreement without attacking someone over it. You're literally doing exactly what you described. 1
Yomo Kimyata Posted 18 hours ago Author Posted 18 hours ago 41 minutes ago, arcane said: Did you guys think the subforum was called “Suggestions & Developer Feedback” or something? Yes! That would be a great name for it. We could keep a different forum for arguments and disagreements in playstyle and such. 1 hour ago, arcane said: I’m sure Yomo himself is better than this, but this thread is clearly just red meat for the “small cohort of players” who can’t handle disagreement without losing their shit. At the risk of over-repeating myself, I want to be clear that my issue/objective here is to be able to give suggestions and feedback to the developers, ideally without having to run the gauntlet of running it past dozens of rabid gamers who want nothing better to kill all my pets just because they think someone on the internet is wrong. Pie in the sky, I know. 2 Who run Bartertown?
Troo Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago 1 hour ago, arcane said: “Suggestions & Developer Feedback” That's a good rename. ------- -- ------- @Yomo Kimyata You're not wrong. Maybe disabling replies to this subforum? It is very sad to see the treatment folks get when making a suggestion. Especially new folks. "Homecoming is not perfect but it is still better than the alternative.. at least so far" - Unknown (Wise words Unknown!) Si vis pacem, para bellum
arcane Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago If everyone else here is averse to talking to people that don’t 100% conform to their own opinions, then I am good with tidge’s suggestion. 1
arcane Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago 40 minutes ago, Troo said: That's a good rename. ------- -- ------- @Yomo Kimyata You're not wrong. Maybe disabling replies to this subforum? It is very sad to see the treatment folks get when making a suggestion. Especially new folks. Do you think you’ll be okay 1
El D Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago 7 hours ago, tidge said: As long as none of the suggestion are made public, and everyone who makes a suggestion will accept that the suggestion will be discarded unread, this seems perfectly acceptable. QFT. Had to blow the dust off for that one, but it's exactly what would happen. The devs don't have time to manage the entirety of the forums and discord at all times as is. They absolutely aren't going to bury their level of interaction with the playerbase under an unending avalanche of even more messages for even more things they weren't going to do in the first place. Also, the concept of 'the players give the exact same counterpoints the devs would, but it's mean when they do it' is odd. If anything, it seems that'd be more efficient than waiting who knows how long for the devs to personally reply to every post. So long as someone can actually back up their counterpoint with an accurate explanation via game mechanics or engine functionality as to why that something is unfeasible, what's the difference? 2 Global is @El D, Everlasting Player, Recovering Altaholic.
tidge Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago Repeated "suggestions" in the public forum don't really bother me... but I have been (emotionally) tested to NOT reply to the umpteenth time on the topic of something like "Group Fly". On 7/16/2025 at 4:20 PM, Yomo Kimyata said: What I would really love is some sort of input or direction from those who command. If someone makes a suggestion that is blatantly self-serving, some sort of comment like, "We will take that under advisement, but it doesn't seem to advance our goals at this time." If it's a really good interesting idea, how about, "That is an interesting idea." If it is technologically unfeasible, how about, "That is currently technically unfeasible." Or even a plain /jranger from a bolded name, so we know it's a non-starter and we can move on with our lives. I haven't forgotten a semi-recent real-time meltdown in the suggestions forum that included an actual dev response "Not going to happen" (which was predicted by *many* forum regulars), at which point the member that wasn't going to get what they wanted began sealioning the devs.... which became a miserable experience for everyone. The suggestion forum is IMO best engaged as a chance to air out ideas, especially if the suggestion is made with an underlying assumption that "My suggestion is no better than half-right". It is a safe assumption that not everything has been considered as part of the assumption, and it is also a safe assumption that not everyone perceives an issue as having the same magnitude as the person making the suggestion. We should avoid blatant rudeness when replying to suggestions, but OPs should not have paper-thin skins either. 1
Glacier Peak Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago (edited) I think the expectation that developers or members of the Homecoming Team respond to (your individual) threads is unrealistic. If you look at the thousands of threads that have been made over the past six years in that sub forum and count how many have had individual responses from them, you'd see that developers and the Homecoming Team either will respond in the way this suggestion requests, respond in a way to suggest interest or completely reject the idea, or there won't be any response whatsoever and the suggestion makes it in to the game immediately without any testing or feedback soliciting (looking at you role tag color change!). So I guess in a way, your suggestion is sort of in place already for that sub forum and nothing is stopping anyone from DM'ing a developer or Homecoming Team member with an idea. You can even join the Closed (not actually closed) Beta discord and discuss in real time ideas with the developers. Edited 10 hours ago by Glacier Peak Added individual threads for clarity/expectation management I lead weekly Indom Badge Runs / A newer giant monster guide by Glacier Peak / A tour of Pocket D easter eggs! / Arena All-Star Accolade Guide! Best Post Ever....
Vanden Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago Hold on, are some people under the impression that the "Feedback" part of the Suggestions & Feedback forum is meant to refer to feedback on the actual suggestions, from the dev team? A Cheat Sheet for efficient Endurance Recovery slotting Invention Set Designer Tool Spreadsheet with every Ancillary Power Pool
Wavicle Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago There 100% HAVE been suggestions made in that forum that have eventually made it into the game itself. The forum does serve the purpose the OP asked for. It just ALSO lets other players comment on those suggestions. Wavicle's Guide To What Really Matters: What Needs To Be Done On Every Toon
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