Solarverse Posted November 6, 2019 Posted November 6, 2019 (edited) Global Badges. I feel as though at this point in the game history, it is completely redundant, monotonous and time consuming to grind badges across multiple characters; with the exception of any badge that grants extra abilities, powers, buffs or weapons, IE Accolades. We have all been through this before during live, and during live I was against the idea...however, it's no longer live, and almost all of these badges I have already driven myself mad getting previously. Would be a great addition to the game if once we unlock a badge, it unlocks for all characters on your account or server, minus the accolades. Edit: I believe in majority rules. Something society has seemed to lost value in over the years. However, I see that the majority here see my thoughts on the matter to be unfavorable. So therefore I forfeit the argument and concede that the majority has voted against the idea. Can't win them all, folks. For those who liked the idea, I appreciate your posts, but fair is fair and the majority have spoken. See ya on the next brilliant idea! 😄 Edited November 8, 2019 by Solarverse 1 SFX and Music Mods by Solarverse (Consolidated) WP/EM God Mode Tank Guide and Build Help Support the Return of Missing Code for Sound Files!
Hero_of_Light Posted November 6, 2019 Posted November 6, 2019 I worry that the more accomplishment game play we take away from CoH, the less longevity it will have. I know it died, but it's back now and with a team wanting to give it a new life. Minus accolades, I think I could get behind it though.
Apparition Posted November 6, 2019 Posted November 6, 2019 I would only support this for anniversary and holiday event badges because they can be one off events. The rest, IMO, should be earned from character to character. 5
MetaVileTerror Posted November 6, 2019 Posted November 6, 2019 I'm of two minds on this suggestion. On the one hand: Time saver! I have over 115 Alts, spanning roughly 3/4s of a dozen accounts. While I imagine that it's unlikely that I could share my Badges across accounts, even having to only worry about them on one account at a time could be helpful. On the other hand: I kind of like to define my characters with particular Badges, and it adds a certain element to roleplay for other players to see what sorts of activities a particular character of mine has been up to. . . . so, as I am wont to do from time to time to almost-all-the-bloody-time: COMPROMISE! (Disclaimer: This idea would take more work than just making everything universally Account-wide, but . . . that's me!) Have a greyed-out version of each Badge which is unlocked on every Alt per Account, which the user can select for the Badge Title, but doesn't translate to any other benefit (such as Accolades, Day Jobs, or Gladiators). Then, the player can unlock those specific Badges on that Alt the normal way, replacing the greyscale version with the full-colour version of the Badge, and also unlocking any associated benefits. Honestly, though . . . I kind of think this one can go on the backburner of a backstove in the backkitchen. If a random volunteer wants to tackle it; awesome! But I don't think it's worthwhile putting on the Homecoming Roadmap of Development (if we ever get such a thing). 3 1
Solarverse Posted November 6, 2019 Author Posted November 6, 2019 21 minutes ago, MetaVileTerror said: this one can go on the backburner of a backstove in the backkitchen. I could not help but LOL at this comment, I am sooo going to have to remember that line. 😄 2 1 SFX and Music Mods by Solarverse (Consolidated) WP/EM God Mode Tank Guide and Build Help Support the Return of Missing Code for Sound Files!
Lost Ninja Posted November 6, 2019 Posted November 6, 2019 Did it on live so can't be arsed to do it here. So don't. Why do you need to unlock all the badges anyway? 1 1
Leogunner Posted November 6, 2019 Posted November 6, 2019 *clicks thread* 1 hour ago, Solarverse said: Global Badges. *presses Back button* 1 2
MunkiLord Posted November 6, 2019 Posted November 6, 2019 Nah, I like badges being character specific. 2 The Trevor Project
Wild Claw Posted November 6, 2019 Posted November 6, 2019 However, I can see some new global Badges for account-wide accomplishments. Like the 'No Life' badge for maintaining 500 alts, or something. 😉
Solarverse Posted November 6, 2019 Author Posted November 6, 2019 43 minutes ago, Leogunner said: *clicks thread* *presses Back button* Nuh uh! You quoted me, deleted the rest of the message, then typed, "*presses Back button*" 😄 SFX and Music Mods by Solarverse (Consolidated) WP/EM God Mode Tank Guide and Build Help Support the Return of Missing Code for Sound Files!
Solarverse Posted November 6, 2019 Author Posted November 6, 2019 (edited) Here's the thing that set me on this thread. Every time I log in a new character, I get the badges from where I once ran an AE mission. So I thought, 'why in the hell do I get these stupid badges (sorry, not a big fan of those badges) but not the other ones I worked for?' Makes no sense. Edited November 6, 2019 by Solarverse 1 SFX and Music Mods by Solarverse (Consolidated) WP/EM God Mode Tank Guide and Build Help Support the Return of Missing Code for Sound Files!
Troo Posted November 6, 2019 Posted November 6, 2019 (edited) @Solarverse I get it. But, something like below would be okay as long as it was minimal effort. 34 minutes ago, Wild Claw said: However, I can see some new global Badges for account-wide accomplishments. Like the 'No Life' badge for maintaining 500 alts, or something. 😉 Otherwise: 2 hours ago, Apparition said: The rest, IMO, should be earned from character to character. Edited November 6, 2019 by Troo "Homecoming is not perfect but it is still better than the alternative.. at least so far" - Unknown (Wise words Unknown!) Si vis pacem, para bellum
Doc_Scorpion Posted November 6, 2019 Posted November 6, 2019 3 hours ago, Solarverse said: Would be a great addition to the game if once we unlock a badge, it unlocks for all characters on your account or server, minus the accolades. /jranger The absolute last thing this game needs is more "free stuff". If they're that important to you, they should be worth getting out and earning. Unofficial Homecoming Wiki - Paragon Wiki updated for Homecoming! Your contributions are welcome! (Not the owner/operator - just a fan who wants to spread the word.)
molten_dragon Posted November 6, 2019 Posted November 6, 2019 I have nothing against the idea in particular, I just don't care about badges very much and would prefer the dev team focused their efforts on other things.
Lost Ninja Posted November 6, 2019 Posted November 6, 2019 9 hours ago, Solarverse said: Here's the thing that set me on this thread. Every time I log in a new character, I get the badges from where I once ran an AE mission. So I thought, 'why in the hell do I get these stupid badges (sorry, not a big fan of those badges) but not the other ones I worked for?' Makes no sense. AE missions are linked to your Global Name not the character. You don't get the various AE kill Badges just the people like your mission badges. (I get them too on my main account, maybe I ought to get them free on my other accounts?)
Solarverse Posted November 6, 2019 Author Posted November 6, 2019 9 hours ago, Doc_Scorpion said: The absolute last thing this game needs is more "free stuff". Was it free though? I guess that depends on how you look at it. I work for all my badges. That's how I look at it. SFX and Music Mods by Solarverse (Consolidated) WP/EM God Mode Tank Guide and Build Help Support the Return of Missing Code for Sound Files!
ShardWarrior Posted November 6, 2019 Posted November 6, 2019 Vet Reward Badges should be account bound. Beyond that, I believe the rest are fine as is.
Solarverse Posted November 6, 2019 Author Posted November 6, 2019 I was right where you guys are now back on live...so I get where you are coming from. It's just not how I feel now that we all had to start all over from scratch again. SFX and Music Mods by Solarverse (Consolidated) WP/EM God Mode Tank Guide and Build Help Support the Return of Missing Code for Sound Files!
Doc_Scorpion Posted November 6, 2019 Posted November 6, 2019 2 hours ago, Solarverse said: Was it free though? I guess that depends on how you look at it. I work for all my badges. That's how I look at it. 0.o If you earn the badge on ReallySuperDuperMan, and then it magically pops up on SlightlySuperDuperMan and KindaSuperDuperMan... Then yes, it is free (or at least sharply discounted) because you put in one third of the work it previously took to earn the badge on three characters. In that instance, getting two badges for zero effort on that character, there's no possible way to claim that you "worked for all your badges". 1 hour ago, Solarverse said: It's just not how I feel now that we all had to start all over from scratch again. With the exception of vet badges, on Live you started from scratch every time you started a new alt. And that's pretty much what we're doing now - starting a bunch of alts (admittedly after a gap of some years). Effectively, nothing has changed in that respect. Unofficial Homecoming Wiki - Paragon Wiki updated for Homecoming! Your contributions are welcome! (Not the owner/operator - just a fan who wants to spread the word.)
Kyksie Posted November 6, 2019 Posted November 6, 2019 The Live devs were planning something along those lines, to reduce the need to grind out Accolade badges. For example, if a character got the Slayer badge for 200 Vampires, then all other characters on that account would need 20% less vampires. If someone got the Task Force Commander Accolade, other characters on the account would need only 5 of the 6 Task Forces to get the accolade.
Yomo Kimyata Posted November 6, 2019 Posted November 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, Kyksie said: The Live devs were planning something along those lines, to reduce the need to grind out Accolade badges. For example, if a character got the Slayer badge for 200 Vampires, then all other characters on that account would need 20% less vampires. If someone got the Task Force Commander Accolade, other characters on the account would need only 5 of the 6 Task Forces to get the accolade. Hmm, I think that I would oppose this, for what it’s worth (not much). I’m not a fan of making things easier. If you want an accolade on a character, either do the grind or do without. My 2 inf. 2 Who run Bartertown?
Broken_Prey Posted November 6, 2019 Posted November 6, 2019 I like to think badges tell a story of what the alt has accomplished. So having global badges would stop that. 5 "All right, they're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time"- Chesty Puller US Marine Corps
Replacement Posted November 7, 2019 Posted November 7, 2019 Introducing Medals: Global badges/meta-badges. Use the old Veteran Reward system to claim the badges right for you! Examples: Atlas Tour Guide Medal: Earn Atlas Tour Guide Badge on 4 separate characters. Click to claim your reward, which will grant you the 8 badges required for Atlas Tour Guide. Slayer Medal: Earn the Slayer Badge (200 Vampyri) on 2 separate characters. Click to claim your reward, which will grant you the Slayer Badge. :::: I've seen similar ideas bandied about before. I figured I'd flesh out some structure to it. I could get behind an implementation like this, at least. 1
Tad Cooper Posted November 7, 2019 Posted November 7, 2019 I really don't get some of you people. Who on earth has ever said to themselves, "Well, I sure am looking forward to grinding out Fake Nemeses for that 10% hp bonus," in an unironic fashion? No one. Ever. In the entirety of history. And if you're thinking, "Oh, I like that. It's relaxing," you're lying to us and to yourself. It's just another annoying thing like the grind to 20 you're all happy to skip with DFB or the grind to 50 or money you're all happy to skip with the stupid AE farms. But no, THIS is different. This requires eye rolling dismissal. I like MetaVileTerror's idea. In fact, to expand on it: you should be able to blow merits on badges you've already earned. You've got to do them the real way on one character, then they show up grayed out on your other characters and you can just spend reward merits to skip that pointless bullshit and light it up. Make it cost more in proportion to the amount of bullshit skipped. ReallySuperDuperMan was awarded the Atlas Medallion for fulfilling all the normal requirements, SlightlySuperDuperMan was awarded the Atlas Medallion for his heroism/villainy in doing several hundred merits worth of something else because he's just another face of a real person whose time has value. I also agree that this is not high priority. 1
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