kelika2 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 For a price. 5m-25m inf. each accolade from the P2W vendor. varying prices for varying reasons the ice gun does not seem like its worth 25m and if you already did one of them once then paying 5m-10m for something like tf commander for a new alt seems about right. change the P2W versions icon colors into that silver/grey tone the rest of the temp powers have to appease the "oi, i did it so you should have to, too!" crowd Now before you nut please take a moment to think at how much the time stacks up to do these per alt and how many times you joked about "lol altitis" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudra Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 As someone who also has alt-itis, I still oppose this. 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeraphimKensai Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 The only accolades I typically care about are the stat boosting passives and demonic/eye of the magus. The HC staff did what the OP is asking for PvP, as a means to lower the bar for people to engage in PvP. These accolades are not something that is required to play PvE, but are something that is gained along the way as you play your character. Hmmm as I think on this one I think they should be earned individually per character. I'm trying to avoid thinking about doing this myself on around 200 characters since HC started. Rather than use the well I didn't the hard way you should too mindset, I think that there's not really precedent for account wide boosts of this magnitude so therefore I'm not in favor of the request. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luminara Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 7 hours ago, kelika2 said: For a price. @Jimmy just shut down one RMT trader who was trying to get his/her account back, so their decision NOT TO ENCOURAGE RMT hasn't changed. Oh, and IBTL. Get busy living... or get busy dying. That's goddamn right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frozen Burn Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 (edited) Completely against this. Accolades are just that - a reward for doing something great or difficult. One should not be able to just purchase them for any amount of in-game or real currency. Too many people are requesting "easy-buttons" for this game and then we hear "the game isn't challenging enough." This request only adds to making things too easy and skipping content. And yes, I get these accolades on ALL my alts and I am happy to do the work, play the game, and achieve these rewards on each character. Again, they mean something to me to have them on my characters. Edited January 17 by Frozen Burn filthy typos! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemming Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 Honestly I get tired of setting up the passives, but no. There should be some time sinks still. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc_Scorpion Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 I always love these proposals... "I really want these on all my characters, but not badly enough to actually work for them. So, please trivialize the cost without changing the benefits!" Hard no. 1 Unofficial Homecoming Wiki - Paragon Wiki updated for Homecoming! Your contributions are welcome! (Not the owner/operator - just a fan who wants to spread the word.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeregrineFalcon Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 Translation: "I've spent months farming and I have billions of Inf and I'd like all of the accolades on all of my characters but I don't want to actually do anything other than farm. LoL." 2 1 "It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire posts, the posts become warning points. It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion." Being constantly offended doesn't mean you're right, it means you're too narcissistic to tolerate opinions different than your own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arcane Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 I don’t support the suggestion in the first place, but your prices are pretty laughable. If we were to add the ability to skip content and buy accolades right away, I would think that would need 6-7 figure costs. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troo Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 10 hours ago, kelika2 said: Now before you nut too late.. this idea sucks. i'm not saying you suck, just this suggestion. 1 1 "Homecoming is not perfect but it is still better than the alternative.. at least so far" - Unknown (Wise words Unknown!) Si vis pacem, para bellum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troo Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 More constructively, for each character folks can already do this on the test server, Heck folks can already do this on all servers in Bloody Bay, Siren's Call, Warburg, Recluse's Victory. "Homecoming is not perfect but it is still better than the alternative.. at least so far" - Unknown (Wise words Unknown!) Si vis pacem, para bellum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megaericzero Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 Personally, I think the benefits of badges (accolade powers, earning Vanguard merits, the Ouroboros portal power, Midnighter Club access, etc.) should be account-wide. Aside from accolades, they're all seemingly just a checkbox that you did the tutorial for the thing they're gating anyway. (If anyone wants more of my reasonining, I'm glad to explain myself; I get that this is a crazy opinion in the first place.) By all means, still make each character earn the badge itself for bragging rights. I wouldn't support selling them for the RMT reason, though, so no to the actual OP suggestion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelika2 Posted January 18 Author Share Posted January 18 7 hours ago, Doc_Scorpion said: I always love these proposals... "I really want these on all my characters, but not badly enough to actually work for them. So, please trivialize the cost without changing the benefits!" You would be surprised at how much 10-25m can add up considering how many accolades there are and how many alts we have and if you have just one character and zero alts with 3 firefarmers you can be excused from your own example because thats the only way i can see your point 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudra Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 12 minutes ago, kelika2 said: You would be surprised at how much 10-25m can add up considering how many accolades there are and how many alts we have and if you have just one character and zero alts with 3 firefarmers you can be excused from your own example because thats the only way i can see your point Considering how often there have been comments from players calling for a means to spend their billions of inf' saved up in these forums? Or the plethora of posts about how quickly players can accumulate the requisite inf' with just a single farmer character or playing the market? You may be surprised at how little 10-25m does not add up even with all the accolades in the game. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Developer Dev Unitas Posted January 18 Developer Share Posted January 18 Regardless of anything to do with the meat and potatoes of this particular suggestion, or RMT, or anything like that, it's worth mentioning that doing Account-Wide reward systems in general in this game (in a non-hacky, clunky way that would make the game worse) is... a nightmare, to put it extremely lightly. Unless some signiiiiificant work happens behind the scenes, most account-wide rewards are off the table for the foreseeable future. The very few account-wide things we do have in the game are problematic as-is on the back end and, far as I understand, an active detriment to the actual performance of the game as a whole. Never say never, of course. Trust me when I say I'd love to be able to do more account-wide reward structures, and I'm certainly not alone in that on the development team. But yeah, I'd advise extremely tempered expectations on any and all account-wide feature suggestions. 1 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golstat2003 Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 19 hours ago, kelika2 said: You would be surprised at how much 10-25m can add up considering how many accolades there are and how many alts we have and if you have just one character and zero alts with 3 firefarmers you can be excused from your own example because thats the only way i can see your point 10-25 mil is a rounding error. Anyone who knows what they are doing (and those that don't, that's why we have forum guides in the market section) can make that in literally minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasperStone Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 Sure. But they only show up on your Forum account ... *checks notes Yeah....that should work /e poofgone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelika2 Posted January 18 Author Share Posted January 18 2 hours ago, golstat2003 said: 10-25 mil is a rounding error. Anyone who knows what they are doing (and those that don't, that's why we have forum guides in the market section) can make that in literally minutes. and your sample size is one accolade of seven and for one character another variable is peoples tolerance for firefarming. i personally can only do it once or twice a week if that. using the extreme of some dude who does it 24/7 aint right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudra Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 3 minutes ago, kelika2 said: and your sample size is one accolade of seven and for one character another variable is peoples tolerance for firefarming. i personally can only do it once or twice a week if that. using the extreme of some dude who does it 24/7 aint right So if it is a couple minutes for 1 out of 7 for one character. then it is about 14 minutes for all 7 for 1 character, repeatable for the rest of that player's characters with equally negligible effort? Especially if they build that wealth through use of the market which they can do without even being logged on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macskull Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 (edited) On 1/17/2024 at 6:32 AM, Luminara said: @Jimmy just shut down one RMT trader who was trying to get his/her account back, so their decision NOT TO ENCOURAGE RMT hasn't changed. To be fair OP's post does not make any mention of real money, only ingame currency. (Sidebar, I have no idea what metrics they use to determine whether an account is involved in RMT things but whatever they are can't be that good because I had two or three accounts banned for it back in 2019 despite those accounts only containing a single level 1 or 2 character that had never seen any more inf that what could be earned by killing a few Hellions in AP.) EDIT: Apparently it's just one account, but still. Edited January 18 by macskull hi jimmy "If you can read this, I've failed as a developer." -- Caretaker Proc information and chance calculator spreadsheet (last updated 15APR24) Player numbers graph (updated every 15 minutes) Graph readme @macskull/@Not Mac | Twitch | Youtube Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yomo Kimyata Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 On 1/17/2024 at 12:18 PM, arcane said: I don’t support the suggestion in the first place, but your prices are pretty laughable. If we were to add the ability to skip content and buy accolades right away, I would think that would need 6-7 figure costs. 9 or ten figures! Who run Bartertown? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golstat2003 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 (edited) 4 hours ago, kelika2 said: and your sample size is one accolade of seven and for one character another variable is peoples tolerance for firefarming. i personally can only do it once or twice a week if that. using the extreme of some dude who does it 24/7 aint right I wasn't talking about making inf by fire farming. Fire Farming is the slowest way to make inf. The other methods, well documented on the forums can make 100 mil easily in an hour. So yes, again, 10-25 mil is nothing. Edited January 19 by golstat2003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saiyajinzoningen Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 I think DCUO had/has this in effect. you can purchase trophies or whatever that you have earned on other characters It's just a money sink and incentive to play those characters less. If this was in effect it would be possible to have a level 50 character fully IO'd out with all accolades in less than 24 hours this doesn't sound fun imo I play the game because I like playing the game If all you have to do is sit in a farm and pay a bunch of money to cap out how is it any different than playing an idler game? As an older person I can honestly say too much focus is placed on the destination I've found in life the journey is far more enjoyable. 1 Its easy to criticize a suggestion but can you suggest an alternative? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InvaderStych Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 Nope, for a few reasons including the obvious "opens the door to a constant game of whack-a-mole with GMs closing down RMT trader accounts." Most of the Accolades are Window Dressing anyway, and the Core Set "worth getting" are easily gotten during the leveling process of any given toon. Anyone who wants the others can just go get them. It isn't that hard. If we're talking the "But Stych, I'm a completion-ist and I won't be satisfied without all of them on every toon!" objection then my question is "Is it really all that satisfying to just buy them? Is that really completion-ist-ism? Doesn't seem like it to me." Also ... On 1/16/2024 at 11:02 PM, kelika2 said: Now before you nut Seriously? Sheesh. Show some class in your OP and your ideas might be more well received. Not this one, because it isn't a good idea, but in the future you might have more luck without such antagonistic nonsense in your initial suggestion. 1 1 You see a mousetrap? I see free cheese and a f$%^ing challenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelika2 Posted January 19 Author Share Posted January 19 5 hours ago, InvaderStych said: Seriously? Sheesh. Show some class in your OP and your ideas might be more well received. Not this one, because it isn't a good idea, but in the future you might have more luck without such antagonistic nonsense in your initial suggestion. Dont come to suggestions to be liked. Seriously if you think its just me then lol. negativity is just a thing here. Stick around for a bit and read other threads. its the same 10 or so people all the time Gatta give to receive. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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