PhotriusPyrelus Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 I'm curious, what kind of defender to *non*-defenders (which is why I put this here instead of the Defender sub-forum) most-like to have on the team. It would be nice to know what AT you play, too (e.g. Tankers may prefer Empaths for healing and Fortitude, but I doubt blasters would most-like Empaths, as they would die before the Empath could even react =P). Your boos mean nothing; I've seen what makes you cheer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eiko-chan Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 The one that I am friends with. But all of my friends are old now and outgrew this game. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twozerofoxtrot Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 To be perfectly honest I'm content with any Defender on the team so long as they're capable and competent. I play a range of different ATs so that part of your question I can't really provide feedback to other than when I'm on Melee characters it's always good to see a Kin. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunar Ronin Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 My personal opinion: Electrical Affinity or Sonic Resonance. Both provide rare buffs (absorb and/or +res), AoE mez protection, and in Sonic Resonance's case strong -res debuffs. As far as ATs I play: Mastermind, Stalker, Corruptor, Blaster, VEATs, and Controller mostly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanguinesun Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 48 minutes ago, PhotriusPyrelus said: I'm curious, what kind of defender to *non*-defenders (which is why I put this here instead of the Defender sub-forum) most-like to have on the team. It would be nice to know what AT you play, too (e.g. Tankers may prefer Empaths for healing and Fortitude, but I doubt blasters would most-like Empaths, as they would die before the Empath could even react =P). 1-50? Post 50 casual? Post 50 hardmode? etc etc Arguably 1-50 and post 50 casual, any darn thing is truly fine as you're contributing to the team no matter what. And there will be a spectrum of "preferences" that'll mirror and exceed any responses people will give you here which further supports the point of just being a team member being the most impactful part. As for post 50 hardmode and similar content, you'll be more likely to see specific types of corruptors preferred though some defenders may make the cut too of course. Point is, a team mindfulness in how you play vs the set choices you make for the majority of the player base is going to be more welcome than anything. Over the years similar "what's best" roundabout asking threads will have pretty similar answers be it in the defender forum or elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlwaysAPrice Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 As a general rule I love playing alongside Dark Miasmists because my main main is one, so I know what they're doing and can put myself where I need to be to get the most out of their various location-specific tools (paying attention to: where's the -ToHit anchor, where's the Tar Patch, where's Fluffy, where are they when they're Twilight Grasping, etc.). Otherwise my ideal Defender to run with is going to depend on what I'm playing and where its build is weakest, but it's not like there's any bad ones I'd turn my nose up at on any grounds other than disliking the aesthetic of some shields. Even Empathy, which probably gets the least love nowadays, is still a blast to team with because I feel like I can take stupider risks to give them something to do and if it catches their fancy to anoint me the Adrenalin Boost Chosen One I am off to the races. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skoryy Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 All of them! 2 Everlasting's Actionette Also Wolfhound, Starwave, Blue Gale, Relativity Rabbit, and many more! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luminara Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 @NotDiantane 5 1 1 1 Get busy living... or get busy dying. That's goddamn right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cranebump Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 (edited) Pretty much any of them (though there's a special place in my heart for RAD/RAD). Edited May 24 by cranebump 2 I have done a TON of AE work, both long form and single arc. Just search the AE mish list for my sig @cranebump. For more information on my stories, head to the AE forum sub-heading and look for “Crane’s World.” Support your AE authors! We ARE the new content. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greycat Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 Any, really. I'm more interested in the player being fun to play with. If I wanted to worry about numbers, I'd have gone into accounting. 4 Kheldian Lore and Backstory Guide 2.0: HC edition Out to EAT : A look at Epic ATs - what is, could have been, and never was Want 20 merits? Got a couple of minutes? Mini guide to the Combat Attributes window Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WumpusRat Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 2 hours ago, Clave Dark 5 said: To sort of anti-answer, I'm kind of against Kins. Yes yes I know, "numbers go up gud" blah blah blah, and yes I know I can go see Null to remove the effect. Think of it as my Group Fly. But for me the unending speeding about turns CoH into a twitch game, especially if I'm running a positional toon like say trying to line up a cone, or just moving through a cave NOT like a drunken pinball. I'm just curious, though. You KNOW you can just go to Null and have him turn off the "high speed pinball" effect, but you...choose not to? So you can be annoyed by it when it happens? I don't get it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eiko-chan Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 6 minutes ago, WumpusRat said: I'm just curious, though. You KNOW you can just go to Null and have him turn off the "high speed pinball" effect, but you...choose not to? So you can be annoyed by it when it happens? I don't get it. There's probably a lot of "did I remember to do that on this character?" involved here. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WumpusRat Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 7 minutes ago, Eiko-chan said: There's probably a lot of "did I remember to do that on this character?" involved here. Could be. I suppose it's just that pretty much every character I've made in the last year or so has been a vigilante or rogue, so one of the first things I do is head to Null to switch alignments, and just do all the other stuff while I'm there as well. 🙂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twozerofoxtrot Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 I literally just turn off travel powers when a Kin is on the team and let the Speed Boost take me up to Athletic Run speed. It's that simple. Saves End, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarillo Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 As a teammate, I like to see a Kinetics user, because I love getting buffed by Kinetics but I hate playing Kinetics. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frozen Burn Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 5 hours ago, PhotriusPyrelus said: I'm curious, what kind of defender to *non*-defenders (which is why I put this here instead of the Defender sub-forum) most-like to have on the team. It would be nice to know what AT you play, too (e.g. Tankers may prefer Empaths for healing and Fortitude, but I doubt blasters would most-like Empaths, as they would die before the Empath could even react =P). Totally not true regarding Blasters and Empaths. Empaths are perfect for Blasters - everything Emps do make Blasters unkillable juggernauts. An Emp would really have to slack for a Blaster die while on their watch. And my opinion - Tankers should not get Fortitude. They already have high defenses. Fort should go to squishies that need the extra defense so they can survive better, and also make less need for reactive heals. Personally, I always put Fort on Blasters, Doms, and Controllers as they typically pull lots of aggro and need the extra defense, to Hit, and Damage. As for your OP... I'll take any Defender no matter what AT I'm playing. I can adapt to whatever they bring to the party. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BazookaTwo Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 5 hours ago, Clave Dark 5 said: To sort of anti-answer, I'm kind of against Kins. Yes yes I know, "numbers go up gud" blah blah blah, and yes I know I can go see Null to remove the effect. Think of it as my Group Fly. But for me the unending speeding about turns CoH into a twitch game, especially if I'm running a positional toon like say trying to line up a cone, or just moving through a cave NOT like a drunken pinball. If you hate speed boost, go to Null the Gull in Pocket D, and turn it off for your character. You'll still get the recovery bonus anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BazookaTwo Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 (edited) 2 hours ago, twozerofoxtrot said: I literally just turn off travel powers when a Kin is on the team and let the Speed Boost take me up to Athletic Run speed. It's that simple. Saves End, too. It really depends. Sometimes you have a character tuned *just so* for maneuverability, and Ninja Run + Speed boost feels fiddly. Sometimes your Celerity Stealth proc is in Sprint too. Speed boost is largely annoying, movement wise. The other day I was on an ITF with 3 kins. The only person not dying all over the place was me, and it was the triple speed boost's fault. 😂 Edited May 24 by BazookaTwo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BazookaTwo Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 2 hours ago, twozerofoxtrot said: I literally just turn off travel powers when a Kin is on the team and let the Speed Boost take me up to Athletic Run speed. It's that simple. Saves End, too. It really depends. Sometimes you have a character tuned *just so* for maneuverability, and Ninja Run + Speed boost feels fiddly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortguy on indom Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 Defender Twins. Fun to play with another def that shares same powers. PvP Capture the Flag! Bring some fun into it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZorkNemesis Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 Every defender is a good one as long s they can pull their weight. Having any support is infinitely better than going in with just guns blazing. Playing a favorite though, I think my top pick might be Time. Time has such a variety of healing, buffing and debuffing that they're good for everything. I always love more recharge if I have the end to cover it and Farsight is an amazing team buff. Plus the heal over time from Temporal Mending and Chrono Shift are really good at passively keeping everyone healthy letting them focus on their debuffs more. 1 Currently playing on Indomitable as @Zork Nemesis; was a Protector native on live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverkillEngine Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 (edited) 1 hour ago, BazookaTwo said: If you hate speed boost, go to Null the Gull in Pocket D, and turn it off for your character. You'll still get the recovery bonus anyway. I just wish the options for speed buffs and group travel powers were added to the client config so I did not have to remember to do it on every dang alt. As far as the Op question: The type of Defender I prefer is "Yes", same as for Controllers and Corrupters and Masterminds. I'll take any kind of support I can get while barrelling towards the enemy like a ferret high on crystal meth. Especially if I don't already have any on the team. Edited May 24 by OverkillEngine 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarlet Shocker Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 9 hours ago, Eiko-chan said: But all of my friends are old now and outgrew this game. I'm old and I haven't outgrown this game. I reject that hypothesis! 🤣 I prefer Defenders which debuff rather than buff, simply because the best mode of defence is a dead antagonist. If they are laying on the deck they aren't likely to hurt you. It doesn't matter how good your own defenders are, a live enemy can still splatter you across the floorboards and send you back to the hospital. Reduce your enemy's uptime and win! 3 There's a fine line between a numerator and a denominator but only a fraction of people understand that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oubliette_Red Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 2 hours ago, Scarlet Shocker said: I'm old and I haven't outgrown this game. I reject that hypothesis! 🤣 QFT! The majority of my characters are "support" class, though many are equal amounts of debuffage to go along with the buffage. When it comes to playing a Kin, I typically hold off on SB until the team enters active combat or for outside travel boosts. Most of my friends can handle the ping-ponging, but when it comes to tight tunnels or CoT catacombs there's really no need to get caught on every boulder and torch in the place. 1 Dislike certain sounds? Silence/Modify specific sounds. Looking for modified whole powerset sfx? Check out Michiyo's modder or Solerverse's thread. Got a punny character? You should share it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greycat Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 1 hour ago, Clave Dark 5 said: Did neither of you re Hmm? 4 Kheldian Lore and Backstory Guide 2.0: HC edition Out to EAT : A look at Epic ATs - what is, could have been, and never was Want 20 merits? Got a couple of minutes? Mini guide to the Combat Attributes window Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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