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Though it is not a combo I have played I'm going out on a limb and say Dark Melee/Shield. Shield has an easy time reaching the soft cap and has decent resistances. It does not have a heal but DM provides it. What makes me say /Shield instead of /Bio (despite 95% of my characters being /Bio) is that /Bio has a bit fat zero for defense debuff resistances whiled /Shield has 65% and higher depending on the AT. Anything that throws debuffs from Banished Pantheon to Crey to Cimerorans can eat most of my /Bios, and while they rarely do so is more because of AoE burst, CC, and knowing what is coming. My /Fire Tankers and Brutes are also pretty sturdy but have big holes versus debuffs, though less of a problem since little debuffs resistances. But being put into a crawl with nullified recharge can and has been done with the excessive use of pre-emptive force the usual solution.

You have a good point and I agree with you. I edited the guide.

I actually surprised me today when I thought of looking at the DDR in /Bio to find it has zero, according to HD. No wonder Cimerorans eat my /Bio characters alive. /Shield has 65% when I checked. I definitely will level a DM/Shield since the lack of heal in /Shield is covered by Siphon Life.

Scrappers don't get Gloom. Looking at it on a Brute on HD with fury at 80% and two damage procs it does 383 while Smite with one proc is at 379 on a Scrapper.

How are you guys attack chains? The way I see it on HD and after editing the databse with the changes to SM it becomes pretty powerful. We are talking 655 damage power as opposed to the T9 at 786 damage (and SM doing splash damage, AKA 1300 damage if it hits two mobs). But even with the changes it is still slow at 2.5 animation. In fact the set is pretty slow and ponderous. Midnight Grasp at 2.3 seconds, Siphon Life at 2.1 seconds, SM at 2.5. I can do a gapless attack chain out of these three, but the question is do I want to? With Midnight Grasp, Smite, Siphon Life, Smite, Midnight Grasp, using Smite would be a bit more damage and lowering the slow animations. Two Smites would be 764 instead of 655 and allow to move between each 1.2 animation instead of being locked in place. I'm not sure where to place the Critical Strikes proc. Siphon Life seems like the more obvious choice but since I want to frankenslot to maximize the heal I'll have to sacrifice something. Smite might proc early meaning it won't be available to buff Midnight Grasp. I suppose I will sacrifice a damage proc in Siphon Life for it. The set is still a bit light on AoE with SM having a 3 second recharge so /Shield for an extra oomph is not a bad choice, though I ponder if a /Fire Brute would not fill the role as well. Burn is a good ST and AoE skill and while a /Fire Brute is not as durable as a Tanker (the Tanker ATO is preposterous allowing an extra 15% to all res) it does do more damage with fewer mobs (the biggo extra target cap Tankers got is nice and all, but save for farming that advantage does not last for long).

I'm working on one myself on HD, but I want the new IOs since they will change how things are slotted.

I'm glad I saw this since I rolled a Sonic Sent and noticed the huge delays as well.

It's how I felt when I took Fire Sword Circle and saw it do 48 damage. In WoW there is this cut-off number with AoE. Four mobs and up? AoE. Three mobs and down? You're better off doing ST and kill them one at a time. With 48 damage I wonder the cut off, 'Up to 8 mobs use it, seven mobs and lower just ignore it and ST' 😄

Since we are compiling minor bugs it's super common for me to start typing and not capitalize the very first word of the phrase, so I backtrack to erase it and it will eat the next space. So something like: 'i want to go to Talos' turns into 'Iwant to go to Talos.' It's so minor I would never have mentioned it were this not a compilation of minor bugs.

I throw away all of mine too. If all uncommon salvage was worth 100k I would reconsider, but I can't be arsed to go through the list one by one. By the same token I am annoyed when I want to buy an uncommon salvage and type 5k, nothing, then 10k, nothing, then 20k, nothing. At that point I just type 100k, and in fact I buy everything I need for 100k for the rest of the recipe because screw messing with.. with... it's not even peanuts, it's the crumbs of salt from the shell of peanuts. I met a new player saying they did not use the double XP because they learned the hard way that using it meant no influence so they could not buy their SOs. We were about to do Synapse and I told them, you know, just by doing this one TF now you'll earn something like 18 million and have all the money from this one thing to pay for all your SOs for the rest of your character's life, plus half a dozen other alts. This is how I feel about this faffing around with uncommon salvage being bought for 5k to be resold for 20k. It makes sense and is how many players (myself included) made gold in WoW, but there we had addons making things automatic to buy in 5-6k QUANTITIES. But doing so here with no automation to help smells of masochism tbh.

I rarely play Controllers since I don't feel they add much (don't crucify me, guys, I know I'm posting this in the Controller forum and those here are here because they love the AT). That said playing a /kin saves the AT for me. I leveled a Dark/Kin and didn't finish leveling it. I liked the theme but it wasn't clicking. Plant would have been better mechanically but the pet didn't fit my theme. Now I'm doing a Grav/kin and I'm pleasantly surprised. Though it does not scale well a procced out Gravity Distortion, Lift and Propel does stupid damage between procs, Containment and Impact. my one beef was how I lacked some sort of mass CC to help the team instead of just chucking heals. Turns out that Propel with endurance reduction, a Sudden Acceleration and a FF proc does -great- things. I was following a tank and things were just falling down as I threw heals now and then and focused on blasting. It worked really well and I'm glad I spotted @Darkir's suggestion for Repel. While Repel draws Endurance /Kin has Transference to combat it. The best part? Singularity with a Sudden Acceleration does the same! So we are both generating KD fields. I'll throw a quick little guide for this combo later on.

I actually returned to mention this. I tried and everything worked fine, but as you said once one pack ran out both greyed and didn't come back until I zoned. With your work around I can prevent that. Is there anything you cannot do?!

This is live. the other patch notes are for the beta. Dark Melee is not in live just yet.

Bopper, you are a god! This is the answer to everything I ever wanted in terms of making flying faster and when in a mission to zoom around with Hover instead of being left behind by everyone else. Triple kudos!

Same, my manifest was on the beta test and not working. Good catch.

Spinning Strike from Street Justice. DM's T9 behaving like it would be fine.

I'm not into mini nukes myself. I don't find them useful other than for solo. Their very power minimizes their use since BOOM, exploding the first spawn quickly means it will not be available for the second spawn, and by the time it recharges we are half way killing the second spawn, so we do not use it or otherwise we will not have it available for the third spawn after that. This is how nukes and mini nukes consistently feel like to me and I don't find it fun. I much prefer smaller damage but available in normal recharge times. Claws with Spin and Shockwave might be a stretch (though I could live with them being a standard so that we could stop being so focused on numbers and instead play sets because we like the theme, or the animations, but not 'welp, no decent aoe, I won't play this power set') but to me ALL SETS should have an early AoE (wide cone like new Shadow Maul (and NO MORE of this crap of narrow cones born out of spreadsheets) or PbAoE like Spin) so players can AoE things down from early instead of having the UGH of being surrounded by enemies but smashing them one at a time. Horrible feeling. But of -course- it proved to be problematic to bake a power like Dark Consumption that has utility on top of damage. Thank THE GODS that we didn't get that out of season first April joke of a 15 second DoT though. What a terrible idea. What a spreadsheet vision of the game that has no bearing with the current iteration of the game. I'm into the suggestion above of giving DM's T9 a splash effect (besides, growing a forest of tentacles is fun). It does not even have to be huge. Five characters tops is fine. No more need to worry about new mechanics like max endurance giving damage or the problems inherent in trying to balance a power that gives endurance also doing damage. It may be a simple solution lacking flashyness but hey, works for me. And as for the people complaining how DM is super well know for its strong ST and giving it AoE would dilute the theme, wat? DM has good ST damage, but just like Fire Melee it's not -amazing- ST. Where are these uber times of pylon destroying from DM (not that pylon breaking is a metric that matters, but it is still a measuring metric)?

*pins white knight badge* Good job, you earned it.

This is more a theme concept for something that I am leveling. The basic idea is to be a buff bot (which is why anyone rolls /kin, amirite?) and so the main idea is to act like a MM and buff and debuff while the other seven are our minions doing the damage. Considering how good Speedboost and Fulcrum is this is a decent proposition. That said there would be no point in making something without trying to squeeze every drop of juice out of it, so: - Softcapped S/L/E. - Perma Hasten/Haunt with two Siphon Speed. - Five procs in the Hold having HD rate it as 332 damage combined. This is not counting Containement which will add a bit more, and also the reason I did not add a 6th proc (which HD shows as a damage increase over the damage IO). - The single target Immobilize was taken to have an attack chain since the alternative would be thumb twiddling until level 35 for an epic attack. Even with procs the Immobilize is nothing special with HD clocking at 123 damage. So this is a weak point that can be replaced but I like to press buttons. The build can be pretty busy as usual for a /kin. Power Siphon, Siphon Speed, Transfusion. These three are up often and can be included in the attack chain, plus the pauses to Speedboost our herd of cats who rarely have the dignity to be all in place so a sole application covers them all. While it's not going to be a Pylon winner Haunt + Umbral + procced up two button rotation is still going to whittle stuff down if we get separated which is important since no one wants to hit like a cotton ball. What the build is is completely lacking in AoE damage but I'm not intending to solo and in my experience once we are in a team and FSing the living bejesus out of everyone nothing stays alive long enough. ST to mop up the stragglers is where its at. - The build is very light on Controls (even Possess is just a mule I've no intentions to use). I know it is heresy, but in my experience they don't add much and when I Scrap/Brute/Tanker the immobilizes annoy the heck out of me. I started by spamming Fearsome Stare as I leveled but remembering this I made the experiment -not- to, and as semi predicted nothing changed. HP did not dip, missions happened as normal. Now, a caveat: in the low levels spamming Fearsome Stare had its value (which stopped at around Manticore level) and it -still- has value, but as an emergency button. Second pack accidentally agroed, or a Scrapper who went off to solo and is being slowly overwhelmed. Then, yes, dash in throw a Fearsome Stare or Heart of Darkness for a breather, heal them back up. Otherwise we are not helping any once the team starts having enough defense to survive (and lets keep in mind our heal is pretty powerful at 750 HP every three seconds) there is no value in making the enemies cower or stumble instead of having them cluster around the agro generators. - I did not rush to take Heart of Darkness since as mentioned I'm going light on controls. I needed Tactics to push my accuracy up as leveling so I took that first. In any case the intent is to use it combined with FS. Go in, FS, immediately Heart of Darkness to hakuna the mob's tatas. I could have increased its damage by a fair bit (HD shows it as 166 damage at the moment, but maximized it was up to 288) but I feel it to be a drop of water in the ocean. The extra 3% in Energy and the Energy Font(s) continuing to stack their pulsing stun aura to the stun of Heart of Darkness was more desirable Someone might say, but Sov, you built a Corruptor. You're light on controls and went for procced blasts. And I would say yes, I thought about this as well and how for gameplay reasons I could have done it so, but as I mentioned at the start it's a theme. I wanted to go around with the puppy and the Shades and after trying a Dominator I realized I preferred the idea of mass boosting the party instead of doing pew pews. I did not pick Incarnates yet since I did not do any research on them. With FS and us being light on damage (with a good chunk coming from procs which will ignore Musculature) Musculature does not seem useful, but it will boost the pet's damage and a chunk of our personal damage does come from them. In the same vein Agility will mess with the procs proccing. And since light on controls the controlling buffing Alpha seems eh. Intuition seems the most well rounded with damage, range, ToHit and hold duration buffed. Everyone takes Degenerative and that makes it less useful since max stacks are achieved quickly. Taking something more niche (but still useful) is bound to be a better improvement, but with bugs and low numbers I'm not sure what would serve. We already do -ToHit so Diamagnetic might be nice to stack, but that's spreadsheet talk when things die so fast and at 50 everyone is softcapped. The -regen seems minimal at 10% per stack (if I'm reading it correctly). The -res incarnate stacks to 10% (if I'm reading it correctly again) which is eh. I'll take a look at @Sir Myshkin's proc monster thread later and see what he picked for his Dark/Dark proc monster.

Actually that one is sparse on the details. I ought to have re-checked before linking. This is the one you want and the one I consult since it has all the details: So what you do is follow this, set a a teleport inside. If you have set the ceiling as 'open sky' you can fly outside in editor mode. Place the other point outside.

I have a hearty LOL to add to the buffs that were going to put DM on the map being simply cancelled. Like, puff, gone, bai, 'yes, we know the set needed an AoE boost, and we tantalized something tasty that had those who didn't have DM characters want to roll one, and those who had one cheering, but nah'. At least we didn't have that out of season first of april joke of a 15 second DoT as if we were in WoW and fighting enemies with 5 or 6x our HP instead of things that melt if we look at them wrong.

Does it matter though? If the mobs are being killed within the 5 (?) seconds it takes for the DoT to run its course aren't they dead anyway? Be it from DC or from whatever other nuke landed on them. That said I don't like DoTs either. We don't do the game against few but tough enemies a la WoW dungeon trash. So after leveling characters who had DoT effects it was super common to just apply the DoT, and then continue the rotation on the same mob making the animation and endurance used on the DoT skill a waste. Otherwise it is 'lets play a game and try to guess that the mob will die and not instead survive with a splinter of HP making me have to go chase it down'. DoTs in this game need to be ultra short. We are talking 2.5 seconds and it's probably too much already.

This is a scrapper, but almostsame thing, just copy the slotting. Take off Focussed Accuracy for something else. Maybe Parasitic Aura and just give it a four slot Unbreakable guard to get back the S/L defense lost from FA.