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What is the worst of the worst of the powersets, give me the combo's and the AT's everyone hates for what ever reason. Going to let you guys pick my next character!!!!!

 

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It depends on what you like to do.  Most powersets are designed for roles and game types.  If you pick a team character and solo it may suck but it might be great for teaming.

 

So assuming you want to solo - Controller, Ice/Force Field

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Fire Armor/Energy Melee tanker.  Fire armor is an offense oriented defense set.  It relies for its survivability on its click heal, which is reasonably fast recharging; but out of the box and without extensive set bonuses you're going to need it often.  Energy melee is a weak attack set, deliberately worsened by animation lag; some of them take almost five seconds to play.  This was done deliberately back in the old game, not only to handicap the set, but also to make it impossible for players to build around its limits.  During those long animations your self heal is unavailable. 

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1 hour ago, Dragon Crush said:

Petless ninja/TA mastermind

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Petless MERCENARY / Trick Arrow Mastermind.  Get some extra Redraw going on in there.

 

 . . . I also did this on Live before Trick Arrow was added to Corruptors.  The character was /very/ short-lived.

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For blaster AR/Dark is the only set (as of September 1st) that no one has bothered with at all.  It has terrible synergy as AR does best at range and 6 out of 9 powers in /Dark put you in melee range. 

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3 hours ago, MetaVileTerror said:

Petless MERCENARY / Trick Arrow Mastermind.  Get some extra Redraw going on in there.

 

 . . . I also did this on Live before Trick Arrow was added to Corruptors.  The character was /very/ short-lived.

Merc attacks at least do more damage and have secondary effects like -def and KB, ninja attacks are both pure damage, and weakest of the MM attacks. I guess they're supposed to make up for it with faster cast/recharge, but at MM damage scale they don't hit for anything and because of low recharge and pure damage have worst proc rates and proc slotting opportunities.

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8 hours ago, Qoseph said:

What is the worst of the worst of the powersets, give me the combo's and the AT's everyone hates for what ever reason. Going to let you guys pick my next character!!!!!

 

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Defender with energy blast and storm summoning.

May the knockback be with you. :)


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3 minutes ago, Pifou said:

Defender with energy blast and storm summoning.

May the knockback be with you. 🙂

I got one of those to 50 back on live.  Never again.

 

 

I have never been able to really get into FF.  It has a decent 'ohshit' shield but even resting turns that off.  I think its a rough go for leveling.

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1 minute ago, Pifou said:

Defender with energy blast and storm summoning.

May the knockback be with you. :)

On SO's yes indeed. I'm seriously tempted to build the 'Mad King' version of this though.

 

4 hours ago, DarknessEternal said:

Electric Blast/anything Blaster.  It's a set designed to do no damage on an AT that only does damage.

Elec blast certainly doesn't do 'no damage'. It needs the right secondary to support it but it does absolutely fine. My Elec/Mental/Psi is glorious to play - run in stealthed and let off build up->drain psyche->short circuit->ball lightning->psychic shockwave and that's when the nuke isn't up. Sure, power for power other sets do more damage but it manages fine.

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I play Brites although I may be switching to Tanks with the new rules. There are no ‘broken’ Brute combos. Some are suboptimal. Some have weapon disappearing issues. Some armors are squishier.  But if you know what you are getting then it is fine

 

dont buy a fire armor and expect to tank like an invulnerable. Don’t get an Energy Melee and expect any AoE.  

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5 hours ago, parabola said:

 

 

Elec blast certainly doesn't do 'no damage'. It needs the right secondary to support it but it does absolutely fine. My Elec/Mental/Psi is glorious to play - run in stealthed and let off build up->drain psyche->short circuit->ball lightning->psychic shockwave and that's when the nuke isn't up. Sure, power for power other sets do more damage but it manages fine.

Replace electric blast with any other set in the above and you’ll see better damage, thus making it the worst. That’s why this thread asked. 

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9 hours ago, DarknessEternal said:

Electric Blast/anything Blaster.  It's a set designed to do no damage on an AT that only does damage.

I have an electric/electric blaster who was in fact my first level 50 blaster.  I play the character as a defender. Her whole shtick is endurance drain and everything is slotted for that. 

 


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6 hours ago, Pifou said:

Defender with energy blast and storm summoning.

May the knockback be with you. 🙂

Change Storm summoning to FF and you'd meet Agent Knockback.

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I'm not sure there really is a "worst' combo of powersets, I think to achieve that you really have to purposely gimp a build. Petless MMs, Healbots. etc.

 

Might be fun to see what kind of trouble a team of gimped builds could get in to, then again... it might not.


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6 hours ago, Pifou said:

Defender with energy blast and storm summoning.

May the knockback be with you. 🙂

I have one, it's a LOL build, all I do is street sweep.

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I get endless fun out of a grav/storm controller... wormhole + singularity + lightning storm + tornado + hurricane + ragdoll physics... AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

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1 hour ago, Heraclea said:

I have an electric/electric blaster who was in fact my first level 50 blaster.  I play the character as a defender. Her whole shtick is endurance drain and everything is slotted for that. 

 

So just play a defender or corrupter and be wildly better at that. 

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11 hours ago, DarknessEternal said:

Electric Blast/anything Blaster.  It's a set designed to do no damage on an AT that only does damage.

Try Elec/Fire. Fire Manipulation carries primaries.

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You should play a melee-focused Fortunata and take all the AoEs. Or was worst of the worst not supposed to be from the mobs' perspective?

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3 hours ago, DarknessEternal said:

Replace electric blast with any other set in the above and you’ll see better damage, thus making it the worst. That’s why this thread asked. 

 

Which is why I said:

8 hours ago, parabola said:

power for power other sets do more damage

 

But I would argue that there is more to determining the best and worst sets than raw damage even in the case of blasters. Mitigation has value and end drain can be leveraged with the right secondary.

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16 hours ago, DougGraves said:

So assuming you want to solo - Controller, Ice/Force Field

I made, and soon deleted, an Illusion/FF controller, mostly for the concept as part of a themed "super group" comprised of some my own alts. As an almost purely solo player, it didn't take long to realize how useless she was by herself.

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9 hours ago, parabola said:

On SO's yes indeed. I'm seriously tempted to build the 'Mad King' version of this though.

 

Elec blast certainly doesn't do 'no damage'. It needs the right secondary to support it but it does absolutely fine. My Elec/Mental/Psi is glorious to play - run in stealthed and let off build up->drain psyche->short circuit->ball lightning->psychic shockwave and that's when the nuke isn't up. Sure, power for power other sets do more damage but it manages fine.

Ice Blaster is ‘worse’ but I like it for concept and live it for range. Ghetto Dom/Ghetto Blaster

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