Gulbasaur Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 (edited) 12 hours ago, Frostbiter said: [Unpopular opinion ahead] I actually think Hasten does need at least one change: Why does Hasten lower the recharge of itself? One of these days Hasten is going to rip a hole in the multiverse. I completely agree with you. It being perma-able completely shoots holes in a lot of game balance. Even the original devs had problems with it - MAtt Miller directly called it abusive. From the Lore AMA thing on Paragon wiki: Quote A) Matt Miller (Positron) Axe the fitness pool. Hasten has a hilarious history. In Alpha it was way too good. If I recall correctly, there was no crash. When we added some drawbacks to it, the players went ballistic. I still remember one player claiming that it was “completely worthless now”. I would always, always, keep that player’s comment in mind whenever we would downgrade other abusive powers and players would complain. A small part of me would always think “maybe it’s not enough?” Hasten is not a good power because it is too good a power. I with they made it inherent, and unenhanceable, when they made the Fitness changes. Speaking of which, I remember a couple of times being a kinetics defender and being the only person on a team not to get the fitness pool. Someone even mentioned it once - like the solo-friendly defender inherent, Fitness had zero value to a mid-level teaming kinetics defender. Edited January 17, 2020 by Gulbasaur 1 Doctor Fortune Soulwright Mother Blight Brightwarden Storm Lantern King Solar Corona Borealis Blood Fortunado Dark/Dark Corruptor Rad/Rad Brute Gravity/Time Controller Storm/Water Defender Peacebringer Dark/Dark Tanker The Good Missions Guide: A Heroic Levelling Journey through Story Arcs Blueside Guide Easy IO Cheat Sheet The Mean Missions Guide: A Villainous Levelling Journey through Story Arcs Redside Guide Fortunatas are the Bestunatas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haijinx Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 14 hours ago, macskull said: This is one change that would break a lot of things and as such I don't see Hasten nerfs happening anytime soon. You can't stack Hasten with itself so it's not like it ends up in this infinite loop of +recharge. Sure it does. You don't remember making this exact same post the last 1345663424 times in this infinite time loop? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rathulfr Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 35 minutes ago, Haijinx said: Sure it does. You don't remember making this exact same post the last 1345663424 times in this infinite time loop? Sure it does. You don't remember making this exact same post the last 1345663424 times in this infinite time loop? 1 1 @Rathstar Energy/Energy Blaster (50+3) on Everlasting Energy/Temporal Blaster (50+3) on Excelsior Energy/Willpower Sentinel (50+3) on Indomitable Energy/Energy Sentinel (50+1) on Torchbearer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haijinx Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 23 minutes ago, Rathulfr said: Sure it does. You don't remember making this exact same post the last 1345663424 times in this infinite time loop? Wait ..didn't you post that last time? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeraphimKensai Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 Alright let's just get rid of IO's in general. Back to SO's and HO's for everyone. Obviously this post is facetious as is this whole forum thread. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Warpact Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 16 hours ago, macskull said: EDIT: Back to the topic at hand though. Nerf nerfherding threads, they're rarely constructive and almost always end up exploding and getting locked and/or nuked from orbit. Thank you. I prefer to call them the "I don't like it so it has to be changed" whine. 2 1 https://www.twitch.tv/boomie373 The Revenants twitch channel, come watch us face plant, talk smack, and attempt to be world class villains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siolfir Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 Nerf repeat posts! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grouchybeast Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 2 hours ago, siolfir said: Nerf repeat posts! Th frms rlly nd wdsprd pwr rblncng. Thr r fr t mny vwls vrywhr, fr n thng. Nrf vwls! 1 2 1 Reunion player, ex-Defiant. AE SFMA: Zombie Ninja Pirates! (#18051) Regeneratio delenda est! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frostbiter Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 ttll gr Grchbst. 1 Torchbearer Discount Heroes SG: Frostbiter - Ice/Ice Blaster Throneblade - Broadsword/Dark Armor Brute Silver Mantra - Martial Arts/Electric Armor Scrapper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siolfir Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 sgnd 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VV Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 Brutes. Maybe just rid of them. If not that, just make it so they can't join teams. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galaxy Brain Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 5 hours ago, The_Warpact said: Thank you. I prefer to call them the "I don't like it so it has to be changed" whine. So no buff threads either! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Z Bubba Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 1 hour ago, VV said: Brutes. Maybe just rid of them. If not that, just make it so they can't join teams. I'd say the same about tanks. And I'm building a new one right now. How about, instead, we just stop letting control freaks ruin everything for everyone because they think their opinions are global when it's proven time and time again that this belief is painfully false? Just a thought. Nerfherders kinda suck regardless of the facts of powercreep in this game. 1 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rathulfr Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 5 hours ago, SeraphimKensai said: Alright let's just get rid of IO's in general. Back to SO's and HO's for everyone. Obviously this post is facetious as is this whole forum thread. My wife would kill me if I went back to HOs. 6 1 @Rathstar Energy/Energy Blaster (50+3) on Everlasting Energy/Temporal Blaster (50+3) on Excelsior Energy/Willpower Sentinel (50+3) on Indomitable Energy/Energy Sentinel (50+1) on Torchbearer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siolfir Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 44 minutes ago, Rathulfr said: My wife would kill me if I went back to HOs. Assuming the diseases didn't. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rathulfr Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 (edited) 33 minutes ago, siolfir said: Assuming the diseases didn't. (insert some lame joke about dying happy here) Edited January 17, 2020 by Rathulfr 1 @Rathstar Energy/Energy Blaster (50+3) on Everlasting Energy/Temporal Blaster (50+3) on Excelsior Energy/Willpower Sentinel (50+3) on Indomitable Energy/Energy Sentinel (50+1) on Torchbearer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yomo Kimyata Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 Nerf [XYZ] needs a boost threads! 1 Who run Bartertown? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myrmidon Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 20 hours ago, Rathulfr said: Sure it does. You don't remember making this exact same post the last 1345663424 times in this infinite time loop? Sure it does. You don't remember making this exact same post the last 1345663424 times in this infinite time loop? 2 1 Playing CoX is it’s own reward Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myrmidon Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 Two pages in and no one calls for nerfing Regen? All of you disappoint me. 1 1 Playing CoX is it’s own reward Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wobegone Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 20 hours ago, SeraphimKensai said: Alright let's just get rid of IO's in general. Back to SO's and HO's for everyone. Obviously this post is facetious as is this whole forum thread. I've actually been thinking of trying to start a TO/DO/SO only static team for a while now. Perhaps generic level 25 IOs too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haijinx Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 38 minutes ago, Myrmidon said: Two pages in and no one calls for nerfing Regen? All of you disappoint me. Nerf Energy Melee first. Bone Smasher and Energy Punch should have 3 second animations. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lines Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 19 minutes ago, Haijinx said: Nerf Energy Melee first. Bone Smasher and Energy Punch should have 3 second animations. Why stop at 3? You think so small. I'm thinking a five minute quicktime event. 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeraphimKensai Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 4 hours ago, Haijinx said: Nerf Energy Melee first. Bone Smasher and Energy Punch should have 3 second animations. Honestly I was thinking about Energy Melee, and figured Energy Punch, Bone Smasher, Energy Transfer, and Total Focus are so strong, to balance them out each attack should take at least 15 seconds, so the rest of the team has enough time to get comfy while the Energy Melee players go own everything. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris24601 Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 Nerf Skyway City into a crater and buff Steel Canyon (ex. replace the uniform grey towers with the sleek modern skyscrapers pulled from the Praetoria maps). 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yomo Kimyata Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 10 hours ago, Myrmidon said: Sure it does. You don't remember making this exact same post the last 1345663424 times in this infinite time loop? Nerf time travel! 1 1 Who run Bartertown? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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