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[Wafflesncyanide]

Ahhhhhh that makes way more sense, I kept looking at things and thinking, but this doesnt work...  Okay yeah basically he was using an autoclicker which i am guessing is not allowed or at the very least quite frowned upon.  Thanks for your help 😄

[macskull]

39 minutes ago, Wafflesncyanide said:

Ahhhhhh that makes way more sense, I kept looking at things and thinking, but this doesnt work...  Okay yeah basically he was using an autoclicker which i am guessing is not allowed or at the very least quite frowned upon.  Thanks for your help 😄

No, he wasn't using an autoclicker, he's using binds to execute multiple commands with one button press which is functionality that's built into the game without any external programs.

Edited January 30, 2020 by macskull

[Wafflesncyanide]

For the combining/eating inspirations yes, but that doesn't work that i can tell with active abilities (For instance using Ball Lightning then Burn then Fences then Spineburst) as i would be able to reduce the amounts of binds i needed.  Unless i'm understanding it completely incorrectly, It doesn't particularly matter would have just been nice ease of use type stuff.

[meech]

does anyone have a rad/fire build that is on the cheaper side for starting off? Preferably without purples if possible

[Outrider_01]

 

On 2/2/2020 at 11:03 AM, meech said:

does anyone have a rad/fire build that is on the cheaper side for starting off? Preferably without purples if possible

A guy on Idomitable makes builds like crazy.  Don't want to make a huge post, just import to mids.

 

Basic - Cheap

 

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Epic Advanced

 

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[Rathys (SC)]

Did the exemplar bonus inf get nerfed at some point? These are my settings, on +4/x8 on the 2915 map. When I enter I'm getting auto-exemplared to 49, and not getting XP, but still only getting the same inf numbers as I do at level 50 with XP turned off on the regular (xp) fire farm.

Here are my settings for the 2915 (lvl49) map, which I think are right:

 

 

Anything else I could be missing?

 

Edit: here's a screenshot of my inf drops, which I believe are standard level 50 rewards. Not the level 49 exemplar amount.


 

Edited February 7, 2020 by Rathys (SC)

[Mr. Vee]

Maybe no patrol exp? Otherwise idk.

[Outrider_01]

8 hours ago, Rathys (SC) said:

Anything else I could be missing?

1. Anybody else in the farm with you.

2. You might of changed your setting level without realizing it

3. Settings for EB/AV or solo

I honestly don't know much, had settings screwed up that was similar on my farmer before I fixed it.

[Rathys (SC)]

16 hours ago, Veelectric Boogaloo said:

Maybe no patrol exp? Otherwise idk.

It was this. Didn't know I needed patrol XP for it to work. Must've missed that somewhere.

 

Thanks for the help!

11 hours ago, Outrider_01 said:

1. Anybody else in the farm with you.

2. You might of changed your setting level without realizing it

3. Settings for EB/AV or solo

I honestly don't know much, had settings screwed up that was similar on my farmer before I fixed it.

Apparently you need patrol XP for it to work, and I didn't know that. Thanks for the suggestions anyways 🙂

Edited February 8, 2020 by Rathys (SC)

[Li_Sensei]

22 hours ago, Rathys (SC) said:

It was this. Didn't know I needed patrol XP for it to work. Must've missed that somewhere.

 

Thanks for the help!

Apparently you need patrol XP for it to work, and I didn't know that. Thanks for the suggestions anyways 🙂

 

Yeah, it took me far too long to figure that out.  If you've been running to get Veteran levels for Incarnate shinies, then makes sure you log out and back in after a minute (just to be safe) or so before you start running for inf.

 

Once I realised the cause it made sense, before that it just looked like a random effect.

[wheresmycow]

In regards to the binds, I threw them into a bind file for easy loading, but it didn't seem like they were working.  It's fine if I copy-paste them directly into the chat bar, but they won't load properly from a file, even though I do get the message saying the file itself loaded just fine.  Is there a different syntax for bind files that I'm not aware of?

[Mageman]

I'm curious as to why the Spines/Fire cleared the maps faster than the Rad/Fire, and yet the Rad/Fire received more Inf per hour.

 

After some personal testing, it seems to me that getting the Ally in the mission to help you reduces your Inf while increasing the speed in which you clear the map.  Since each map will have the same number of Minions, Lieutenants, and Bosses they should generate the same Inf each time if you don't get the ally. I haven't tested Inf/Hour, just Inf/mission - so I avoid the ally to increase my Inf/Mission.

 

Could you do some farther testing and see what your inf/hour is with and without the ally? If this makes a difference, test it with and without summoning a pet (I don't think a pet will decrease the inf/hour like the ally does - but I haven't tested this myself)

[Mikewho]

21 minutes ago, Mageman said:

I'm curious as to why the Spines/Fire cleared the maps faster than the Rad/Fire, and yet the Rad/Fire received more Inf per hour.

 

After some personal testing, it seems to me that getting the Ally in the mission to help you reduces your Inf while increasing the speed in which you clear the map.  Since each map will have the same number of Minions, Lieutenants, and Bosses they should generate the same Inf each time if you don't get the ally. I haven't tested Inf/Hour, just Inf/mission - so I avoid the ally to increase my Inf/Mission.

 

Could you do some farther testing and see what your inf/hour is with and without the ally? If this makes a difference, test it with and without summoning a pet (I don't think a pet will decrease the inf/hour like the ally does - but I haven't tested this myself)

I don’t have exact numbers on this but anecdotally the ally only seems to reduce my inf on a boss by about 1-3%

[FourSpeed]

On 2/2/2020 at 12:03 PM, meech said:

does anyone have a rad/fire build that is on the cheaper side for starting off? Preferably without purples if possible

You might also want to take a peek at my Guide: The Low Budget Introduction to Fire Farming where we build a capable Fire Farmer from scratch for under 40 million inf ... or Free, since it is completely self-funded along the way...  😉

 

Cheers,

4 

 

Caveat:  YEP - I know he asked for Rad/Fire, but after a week or two with the LBFF in my guide, he won't need to ask for a cheap build...  😉

 

Edited February 11, 2020 by FourSpeed

[Wafflesncyanide]

4 hours ago, FourSpeed said:

You might also want to take a peek at my Guide: The Low Budget Introduction to Fire Farming where we build a capable Fire Farmer from scratch for under 40 million inf ... or Free, since it is completely self-funded along the way...  😉

 

Cheers,

4 

 

Caveat:  YEP - I know he asked for Rad/Fire, but after a week or two with the LBFF in my guide, he won't need to ask for a cheap build...  😉

 

I second this suggestion, I followed FourSpeeds guide and it was phenomenal.  And once i was up to speed i transitioned into the high-end version of the fire/spines build from the main post 😄

[Mageman]

On 2/10/2020 at 8:19 AM, Mikewho said:

I don’t have exact numbers on this but anecdotally the ally only seems to reduce my inf on a boss by about 1-3%

I know that if the ally defeats something (like a minion, Lt, or boss) - you get zero experience.

[wheresmycow]

On 2/11/2020 at 1:27 PM, FourSpeed said:

You might also want to take a peek at my Guide: The Low Budget Introduction to Fire Farming where we build a capable Fire Farmer from scratch for under 40 million inf ... or Free, since it is completely self-funded along the way...  😉

 

Cheers,

4 

 

Caveat:  YEP - I know he asked for Rad/Fire, but after a week or two with the LBFF in my guide, he won't need to ask for a cheap build...  😉

 

I've been running this as well, started it two days ago.  I have made some tweaks, because I also do some AH stuff and can cannibalize a few test builds that didn't pan out for enhancements, but otherwise I've been following allowing and the journey has been pretty smooth.

[wheresmycow]

Finished the transition yesterday from FourSpeed's LBFF build to the very kitted out Spines/Fire here.  I have a question regarding the interface incarnate: with the patch that fixes interface procs and what we learned about how the DoT proc works (it being cancel on miss), which is the better pick now, core or radial?

[Scoop]

Came here to ask if farmers were slotting procs in your rad/fire brutes and if so where.

But now I am also wondering about patrol xp. Is this an option I need to turn on somewhere? 

[Hardship]

You earn patrol XP (or rested XP) when you are logged out. While you have patrol XP you earn a little extra XP. If you are level 50 and have "when exmplared, give inf instead of XP" set, then that extra Patrol XP converts to Inf, also since you aren't gaining XP, the patrol XP doesn't deplete while playing. So it isn't something you turn on, but it is something that is nice to have.

 

If you turn "earn XP" back on a level 50 to gain vet levels, once  you are done, you can benefit by logging out for a bit and building some Patrol XP before running again with XP turned off.

 

Note: As I read what I just wrote, it is a mess. Lots of reference to XP, Patrol XP, Inf, argh.. I've tried twice to reword, but I'm not getting it any clearer with it so I'm giving up.

 

[Obitus]

 

On 3/16/2020 at 7:29 PM, Hardship said:

You earn patrol XP (or rested XP) when you are logged out. While you have patrol XP you earn a little extra XP. If you are level 50 and have "when exmplared, give inf instead of XP" set, then that extra Patrol XP converts to Inf, also since you aren't gaining XP, the patrol XP doesn't deplete while playing. So it isn't something you turn on, but it is something that is nice to have.

 

If you turn "earn XP" back on a level 50 to gain vet levels, once  you are done, you can benefit by logging out for a bit and building some Patrol XP before running again with XP turned off.

 

Note: As I read what I just wrote, it is a mess. Lots of reference to XP, Patrol XP, Inf, argh.. I've tried twice to reword, but I'm not getting it any clearer with it so I'm giving up.

 

Unless there's some trick to it that I haven't grasped, this no longer works:
 

Spoiler

 

(Disregard; I had a big brain fart here.  Thanks for the thread!)

 

 

Edited March 28, 2020 by Obitus

[Krazie Ivan]

 

[Rylas]

It seems the last patch has done something to Arc ID# 2915, as it gives me an error message as soon as I try to step into it, and closes the story arc out. Is anyone else having this issue?

[The_Warpact]

3 hours ago, Rylas said:

It seems the last patch has done something to Arc ID# 2915, as it gives me an error message as soon as I try to step into it, and closes the story arc out. Is anyone else having this

Apparently it's a known bug.

Edited March 31, 2020 by The_Warpact
Found out issue

[Crysis]

On 3/16/2020 at 7:29 PM, Hardship said:

You earn patrol XP (or rested XP) when you are logged out. While you have patrol XP you earn a little extra XP. If you are level 50 and have "when exmplared, give inf instead of XP" set, then that extra Patrol XP converts to Inf, also since you aren't gaining XP, the patrol XP doesn't deplete while playing. So it isn't something you turn on, but it is something that is nice to have.

 

If you turn "earn XP" back on a level 50 to gain vet levels, once  you are done, you can benefit by logging out for a bit and building some Patrol XP before running again with XP turned off.

 

Note: As I read what I just wrote, it is a mess. Lots of reference to XP, Patrol XP, Inf, argh.. I've tried twice to reword, but I'm not getting it any clearer with it so I'm giving up.

 

This was deemed an exploit by Devs and thus fixed by basically disabling Exemplar double influence when farming.