What are the worst powers in the game?

[Tiger Shadow]

9 hours ago, ZorkNemesis said:

Liquefy isn't the worst, but it's a location AoE that causes foes to run from it and has next to no means of keeping them in place (no mez, no slow, it has a knockdown, but it's not very good).  If you don't have an AoE mez to throw in with it all Liquefy does is scatter the mob.  It also has an enormous recharge for no good reason.

 

My theory is that Liquefy was given a long recharge to prevent people from wasting too much time with it.

[arcane]

17 hours ago, Glacier Peak said:

LRM Rocket

I’m going to respectfully be a contrarian on this one after a lovely friday evening of fairly fruitful rocketeering.

 

Is it optimal? No. Is it in the top 10 worst? Hell no. As long as you aren’t so dumb that you use it on a mob your team is already killing, and as long as you pad it with damage procs, it’s a fine little secondary nuke.

 

 

Edited January 15, 2022 by arcane

[Snarky]

Any power can prove useful, some remarkably so, in the hands of a player.  
 

Any power, no matter how “good” it looks in an analysis, can be a dud.  This, again, depends on the player

 

This is actually one of the greatest strengths of City of Villains, err Heroes.  
 

I have a project on the back burner inspired by “The Midnight Bomber what Bombs at Midnight” from the Tick.  AR/Dev/Munitions Blaster taking all bombs and the LRM.  Meme? Sure.  But will be fun and I bet I can get a ton of usefulness out of it.  Efficient as a Fire/Fire??? Maybe more so for me, I have never blapped.  But i will toe bomb and sit iff at range blowing crap up and laughing maniacally 

Edited January 15, 2022 by Snarky

[ZorkNemesis]

5 hours ago, The_Warpact said:

Hand clap...it needs to be a stun/kb dmg power. 

 

KB>KD proc, accuracy IO, Perfect Zinger proc, Explosive Strike proc.  Ends up doing decent damage then and rechsrge is long enough that procs are almost guarenteed.

[Chrono-Bot]

18 hours ago, Glacier Peak said:

LRM Rocket

OH that is why that guy kept going 'an archer with a LRM rocket' over and over when they ran into my ar/ta/whatever has LRM rocket I picked just for that

[KaizenSoze]

Psychic scream all forms, except for Sentinel which is passable.

[Sakura Tenshi]

Most scrapper taunts are one in my opinion. I actually proposed a bit ago that one way to improve them would be to turn Scrapper taunts into ranged attacks, gap closers, or 'pull-to'. So like Katana would go full weaboo and basically have a version of claws Focus without KD, Electric melee could pull an enemy from a distance towards the user through magnetism, or Claws, already possessing two ranged attacks instead gets a single target lunge that teleports the user right into the opponent's face.

 

Otherwise I think a lot of people have covered the basics, but the big thing that makes Scrapper Taunt seem worthless to me is that I'll see some people grab 'useless' powers for RP concepts sometimes. But Scrapper taunt? Nope, never.

[ihatethewind]

All of the single target immobilize powers.

[Communistpenguin]

13 hours ago, Clave Dark 5 said:

All true, but that's a lot of ifs, Imho.  If you want another T1/2, if you take Kick and then Crosspunch, if you need another attack in general.  Meanwhile, pretty much everyone ends up having to otherwise throw away a choice on it (not all of course, I have a couple of Tough+Weave-less builds, but they are kind of hard to arrange well for squishies).

Almost none of my characters have ever taken the fighting pool.

[Mopery]

Flurry.

[DoctorDitko]

LRM rocket I will need to see in action to judge. (Or rename it "Imaginary Rocket" and add some Psi damage!)

 

Team Teleport, except for the hilarity of seeing Null-phobic teammates freak out, is eclipsed by other TP powers.

 

"Stoppable," the T9 Tank Inv power, is basically a delayed "I lose" button.

 

 

Personally, I'm no fan of any power that requires you to fondle the corpses of dead teammates or enemies, but they can be extremely useful in better hands.

 

[Clave Dark 5]

3 hours ago, Communistpenguin said:

Almost none of my characters have ever taken the fighting pool.

Please post all of your builds, because I hate taking Fighting Pool ha ha.  But as I don't have gobs of time to plan builds on my own I usually just run with one from these forums, and hoo boy is it a common crutch to make a build (just like relying on some Incarnate to take care of ridiculous End problems).

[Normal Thomas]

2 hours ago, Mopery said:

Flurry.

Gonna add Jump Kick. No one has time for that much animation.

[Communistpenguin]

25 minutes ago, Clave Dark 5 said:

Please post all of your builds, because I hate taking Fighting Pool ha ha.  But as I don't have gobs of time to plan builds on my own I usually just run with one from these forums, and hoo boy is it a common crutch to make a build (just like relying on some Incarnate to take care of ridiculous End problems).

here is the build for my main. It is probably a bit weird, cause I have played this character since Live, and I was used to taking alot of aggro with no heal, so I prioritized healing quickly. Overall, the only thing I would change is to swap out Thunderclap for Gale(with a kb-> KD and recharge proc io) But I am to lazy to bother respeccing just for that change.

Storm Goblin build.txt

[cohRock]

I can't say it is one of the worst, but it fails in the "bang for the buck" rating -- Acrobatics.  For 0.26 end/sec, it offers:

• 7 points of knockback protection
• 2 points of hold protection
• 48.44% hold resistance

Armor sets offer significantly more types of mez protection at a cheaper end cost.  I don't expect a pool power to be so thorough, but either the end cost should be lowered or it should offer minor other buffs as well.

 

Historically, Acrobatics had a larger purpose.  Prior to the introduction of sets, it was the only general way to protect someone from knockback if their native power sets did not offer the protection.  For example, without Acrobatics, Fiery Aura tanks and scrappers would often be blown off their own Burn patches, and the foes followed them out.  I.e., without Acrobatics, Burn was awkward to use at best.  That all said, in the present time, we have sets.  These offer knockback protection via set bonuses, and now Acrobatics is one of the least chosen powers because it was not modified to match the new reality.

Edited January 16, 2022 by cohRock

[Clave Dark 5]

5 hours ago, Communistpenguin said:

here is the build for my main. It is probably a bit weird, cause I have played this character since Live, and I was used to taking alot of aggro with no heal, so I prioritized healing quickly. Overall, the only thing I would change is to swap out Thunderclap for Gale(with a kb-> KD and recharge proc io) But I am to lazy to bother respeccing just for that change.

Storm Goblin build.txt 4.6 kB · 0 downloads

I'll have to check it later at home where I have MIDS.  Will say though, the KB->KD proc makes Gale so, so useful for a Stormie.

[Uun]

11 hours ago, ihatethewind said:

All of the single target immobilize powers.

Frequently the only way for controllers to establish containment on AVs. AVs don't have native resistance to immobilize. Very handy in stopping AVs from running if you don't have a tank or brute. I believe they all also have -fly and are useful for bringing them down. The damage isn't great, but is often needed for controllers prior to getting pets and epics.

[Uun]

15 hours ago, KaizenSoze said:

Psychic scream all forms, except for Sentinel which is passable.

Dominator version is ok

[UltraAlt]

12 hours ago, DoctorDitko said:

LRM rocket I will need to see in action to judge. (Or rename it "Imaginary Rocket" and add some Psi damage!)

 

[arcane]

17 hours ago, KaizenSoze said:

Psychic scream all forms, except for Sentinel which is passable.

Goodness gracious some of you are implying you value Jump Kick and Flurry way too much. What’s with all the reasonably usable but skippable powers.

[Nyghtmaire]

13 hours ago, DoctorDitko said:

Personally, I'm no fan of any power that requires you to fondle the corpses of dead teammates or enemies, but they can be extremely useful in better hands.

What power is that? Midnight Grasp?!? 😂 

[The_Warpact]

Just now, Nyghtmaire said:

What power is that? Midnight Grope?!? 😂 

Fixed

[Yoru-hime]

Black Hole is probably my pick for absolute bottom of the barrel. Bad attacks are still attacks, you just have much better options available for doing damage. This is a power that even if it was the only thing ready on your tray, you wouldn't want to use it. It's an AoE Intangible with none of the good aspects of Dimension Shift. The only use I can imagine is as a solo emergency button and it's in a set that doesn't really need one. The one good thing about it is that it's so painless to skip.

[Steel]

17 hours ago, Normal Thomas said:

Gonna add Jump Kick. No one has time for that much animation.

Third place goes to Jab. Or possibly Kick, either are worse than Boxing.

[kiramon]

Psychic scream and world of confusion just need some major number buffs.

 

Psy in general does tho.

 

liquefy needs a rework, just move it to sonic cage, remove cage and decrease it’s cooldown by 80% and give sonic some giant aoe disorient final power that deals d damage and lowers resistance And reduces enemy damage. 
 

 

Edited January 17, 2022 by kiramon