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There is far too much Fannon, and Fannon Adjacent (Expanded U) stuff in Star Wars ADDED to Official Cannon Dues Ex MAchina Powers, there is no way to really predict why any Character has any ability nor why. 

 

Its appropriate its all owned by Disney at this point.  Since its basically a theme park situation. 

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I worry if you're Fannon Adjacent it becomes too easy to get lost but never found and downright impossible to turn around. It's also possible I have Fannon/Fannin confooz.

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  On 6/15/2022 at 5:12 PM, Mr. Vee said:

5 seemed like a step up from the others despite 

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  On 6/15/2022 at 8:07 PM, ThaOGDreamWeaver said:

Thoughts on Ep5:

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Overall, other than Vader going full Unleashed and showing off, less visual or plot inventiveness than previous episodes. Still, good series, and looking forward to finale next week.

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While not entirely surprised, I was sadly disappointed with episode 5.  It had some very cool moments, however this is shaping to be yet another disappointing Disney Star Wars story.

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  On 6/16/2022 at 2:07 AM, Mr. Vee said:

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You, ah...forgot a "sand".  Just saying.

 

  On 6/16/2022 at 6:15 PM, ShardWarrior said:

While not entirely surprised, I was sadly disappointed with episode 5.  It had some very cool moments, however this is shaping to be yet another disappointing Disney Star Wars story.

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Would you be willing to quantify that statement?  What specifics contributed to it?

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Lightsaber fight was good. Vader fights like someone who is over 6' tall and 300 lbs and uses the Force to back that up like a hammer.  It works really well for him.

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  On 6/16/2022 at 11:32 PM, Frostbiter said:

Lightsaber fight was good. Vader fights like someone who is over 6' tall and 300 lbs and uses the Force to back that up like a hammer.  It works really well for him.

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Small note: as they've been throwing twists at us all through the series, perhaps we shouldn't be surprised they're even messing with the very structure of the show.

Final episode will be feature-length - a full 90 minutes. Buckle up, padawans.

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That's what fighting way outside your weight class looks like. I wouldn't take on Vader without a dozen Jedi's using slash and retreat tactics to wear him down. And I'd still expect 30% or better losses. He was undefeated right until his sacrifice to take down the Emperor. Does that count as a spoiler?

 

It's interesting that they decided to make the rest of it feature length because the first five episodes felt like they could have been a movie if cut together.

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Whaaaa? Vader dies?!?!

 

Not that, but a few things of recent vintage probably could use a spoiler tag. I don't look at the thread on new episode day until I've seen it but there are folks who peep this who're not caught up.

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There are folks like myself that use the 'Unread Content' button (top right of forums) as a way to quickly scan topics with unread posts, and the opening few lines of the most recent post in each topic are visible. Spoiler tags help to keep spoilers from being visible in this manner.

 

There's also a pinned topic at the top of this subforum that specifically states that

 

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So yes, please use spoiler tags. Please.

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Edited my previous post. ( @Frostbiter, if you wouldn't mind similarly blanking that quoted piece)...

 

Also, excellent taste in musicians there, particularly ones with the correct attitude to drummers.

 

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  On 6/17/2022 at 11:30 AM, Frostbiter said:

That's what fighting way outside your weight class looks like. I wouldn't take on Vader without a dozen Jedi's using slash and retreat tactics to wear him down. And I'd still expect 30% or better losses. He was undefeated right until his sacrifice to take down the Emperor.

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Agreed.  It's one of those annoying things within the story of the Jedi.  They went up against Vader's boss, and only brought 4 Jedi.  Sure they were masters, and the lead was Mace Windu, arguable the third most dangerous Jedi, but still, they got cocky.  

 

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  On 6/17/2022 at 6:58 PM, Techwright said:

I wouldn't take on Vader without a dozen Jedi's using slash and retreat tactics to wear him down. And I'd still expect 30% or better losses.

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That's a bold strategy, Cotton, let me know how it works out for ya.

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  On 6/17/2022 at 6:58 PM, Techwright said:

Agreed.  It's one of those annoying things within the story of the Jedi.  They went up against Vader's boss, and only brought 4 Jedi.  Sure they were masters, and the lead was Mace Windu, arguable the third most dangerous Jedi, but still, they got cocky.  

 

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This bugged the hell outta me because (while someone else has since stated that it Was there the whole time) I for the life of me only saw the one until the very end. I watched the whole sequence, listened to the dialog and in my head said "there's only one"...Until I saw the end and was like WTF?!?

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I just cannot fathom why they make a show with the entire plot rendered pointless by us already knowing the future from the movie.

 

The big scenes have no drama because we know how it will end.

 

This feels like fan fiction with really good graphics.

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I'd like to imagine that some things set up in this will pay off in the forthcoming Ahsoka series.

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It is a strange pitch because we know more or less what's going to happen, but not necessarily how we get there. Getting people excited about that

And it's already pencilling in some things that tie up...

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  On 6/19/2022 at 4:48 PM, DougGraves said:

This feels like fan fiction with really good graphics.

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This describes basically all recent Star Wars efforts with the posible exception "The Mandalorian"

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  On 6/19/2022 at 11:28 PM, Haijinx said:

 

This describes basically all recent Star Wars efforts with the posible exception "The Mandalorian"

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Rebels did not have that problem as it was new characters.

 

And Clone Wars did not really have this problem because the emphasis was on the plot for the episode and not whether or not Obi Wan or Anakin survived.

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  On 6/19/2022 at 7:46 PM, ThaOGDreamWeaver said:

It is a strange pitch because we know more or less what's going to happen, but not necessarily how we get there.

But it is not too strange.  Stories in all formats have been filling in the backstory or the middle story for eons, and often in one sitting. Take The Princess Bride for example.  We all know there's going to be a happily ever after.  It's just a question of what steps are taken to achieve it.  Why watch Lincoln?  We all know he's going to be shot after the death blow to the Confederacy is struck.  It is the journey to that point, filling in the details, that is interesting.

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Yup. There are plenty of side trips any character can take. This one we specifically know Luke, Leia, Obi and Vader all survive it - Luke being basically unpeturbed, but all three of the others forever changed by it. Death isn't the only risk a character can take.

 

Hell, death isn't fatal either, and not just for evil Emperor types. I'm guessing I don't need spoiler warnings for Princess Bride by this point, though it's not inconceivable... but Bill Goldman does first (mostly) kill, then rez, then perma-doom the hero (nobody quite knows how long a miracle pill lasts for... but then again, what does?)

 

(Side note: I love Miracle Max, steal from him endlessly at work, when writing and even playing CoH, and if ever the full demo reels of Crystal are released, I will be buying whichever Ultra Mega Steelbox DVDOUS or whatever I need to to get it.)

 

Oh, and all the Lincoln sequels are just getting derivative now.

 

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BTW: just going away from this for a minute, how do SW fans feel about a batch of entirely new characters set in the same universe with few or no reference points?

That's what Taika Waititi's planning. Filoni made it work with Rebels but had a whole series to play with - can it be done in a single tentpole flick?

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