BrandX Posted December 31, 2020 Posted December 31, 2020 On 12/31/2020 at 9:15 PM, Erratic1 said: Spider Man was originally in the 10 ton strength class but is currently considered to be in the 25 ton strength class (as a result of Mephisto altering reality). Expand And in the MCU, I believe the math has shown he's past 25tons.
Vanden Posted December 31, 2020 Posted December 31, 2020 On 12/31/2020 at 9:07 PM, Without_Pause said: StJ can put up numbers. It certainly can for stalkers. Expand That's because Street Justice is way better on Stalkers than on any other AT, to an almost comical degree. A Cheat Sheet for efficient Endurance Recovery slotting Invention Set Designer Tool Spreadsheet with every Ancillary Power Pool
Erratic1 Posted December 31, 2020 Posted December 31, 2020 On 12/31/2020 at 9:17 PM, BrandX said: And in the MCU, I believe the math has shown he's past 25tons. Expand Yes. MCU he is able to make Thanos, who is officially Strength Class 100, struggle.
BrandX Posted December 31, 2020 Posted December 31, 2020 (edited) On 12/31/2020 at 9:25 PM, Erratic1 said: Yes. MCU he is able to make Thanos, who is officially Strength Class 100, struggle. Expand Spider-Man = 3000 ton range in the mcu. Edited December 31, 2020 by BrandX
Erratic1 Posted December 31, 2020 Posted December 31, 2020 On 12/31/2020 at 9:29 PM, BrandX said: 3000 ton range in the mcu. Expand Was referring to what Thanos is ranked at in the comics.
BrandX Posted December 31, 2020 Posted December 31, 2020 On 12/31/2020 at 9:30 PM, Erratic1 said: Was referring to what Thanos is ranked at in the comics. Expand I know. I was just stating Spider-Man's as well. 🙂
Erratic1 Posted December 31, 2020 Posted December 31, 2020 On 12/31/2020 at 9:31 PM, BrandX said: I know. I was just stating Spider-Man's as well. 🙂 Expand Gotcha! And a thing to keep in mind MCUwise is Thanos beats Thor and the Hulk. So that Spiderman is able to make Thanos struggle means Spiderman is not much behind (if at all) Thor and the Hulk in MCU. In the comics of course Thanos would not be someone Spiderman would really stand a chance against short of writer fiat. Of course there was that time when Cannonball defeated Gladiator.... 1
BrandX Posted December 31, 2020 Posted December 31, 2020 On 12/31/2020 at 9:34 PM, Erratic1 said: Gotcha! And a thing to keep in mind MCUwise is Thanos beats Thor and the Hulk. So that Spiderman is able to make Thanos struggle means Spiderman is not much behind (if at all) Thor and the Hulk in MCU. In the comics of course Thanos would not be someone Spiderman would really stand a chance against short of writer fiat. Of course there was that time when Cannonball defeated Gladiator.... Expand Well, I'm sure when it comes down to it "It looks cool!" is what they're going for. Or one could call such instance of those extreme times of strength as being power stunts or spending that hero point. 😛 100 ton strength level, the writers are likely thinking, "Oh, well that weighs 50 tons" or some such and don't add in the other factors.
Erratic1 Posted December 31, 2020 Posted December 31, 2020 On 12/31/2020 at 9:48 PM, BrandX said: Well, I'm sure when it comes down to it "It looks cool!" is what they're going for. Or one could call such instance of those extreme times of strength as being power stunts or spending that hero point. 😛 Expand So you're saying Spiderman emptied his inspiration tray? 😁
BrandX Posted December 31, 2020 Posted December 31, 2020 On 12/31/2020 at 9:50 PM, Erratic1 said: So you're saying Spiderman emptied his inspiration tray? 😁 Expand lol That too!
MunkiLord Posted February 28, 2021 Posted February 28, 2021 I still think this should happen. Also Stone Melee for Scrappers. The Trevor Project
Gobbledygook Posted April 18, 2021 Posted April 18, 2021 Just a reminder, this still hasn't happened yet.
Grindingsucks Posted April 18, 2021 Posted April 18, 2021 As long as they're properly balanced, sure. Although, I tend not to think of Scrappers has having SS. Cage comes to mind, maybe- though I tend to put him in "Tank" category, b/c of his Titanium hard skin. Spidey probably fits the archetype, as others have pointed out. I know there are others that could theoretically fit the mold of a SS scrapper. Really do need to be very careful about how rage interacts with Scrapper crits, though.
VV Posted April 21, 2021 Posted April 21, 2021 Dang, I had a concept for a Hell Boy half-sister port that would work great as SS/Fire Scrapper. I guess I have decided to go Street Justice/ instead.
MunkiLord Posted May 4, 2021 Posted May 4, 2021 On 4/18/2021 at 10:28 AM, Gobbledygook said: Just a reminder, this still hasn't happened yet. Expand This needs to happen. The Trevor Project
Gobbledygook Posted May 11, 2021 Posted May 11, 2021 On 5/4/2021 at 4:14 AM, MunkiLord said: This needs to happen. Expand Well, this chapter is named Second Chances, maybe they'll fix rage and in the process, figaure out a way to port it to us. 1
crakerhacker Posted May 21, 2021 Posted May 21, 2021 I just want Crushing Uppercut in street fighting to have an option to use Knockout Blow from Super Strength. I hate the way Crushing Uppercut looks.
Sir Myshkin Posted May 21, 2021 Posted May 21, 2021 sniff sniff Smells like Nerf Rage in here. 2 Pylon Test Run Submission Proc Monsters (Controller Edition) Proc Monsters (Defender Edition) Pylon Test Run Results Proc Monsters (Tanker Edition) "Mad King Special" "Ceterum autem censeo Iram esse delendam" Mad King Special - Force Edition (NEW!)
PeregrineFalcon Posted May 21, 2021 Posted May 21, 2021 You know, they don't actually have to nerf Rage in order to give Super Strength to Scrappers. Or at least not nerf it on Tanks. They could just Scrappers a version of SS that has Build Up instead of Rage. Problem solved. Being constantly offended doesn't mean you're right, it means you're too narcissistic to tolerate opinions different than your own.
Bill Z Bubba Posted May 21, 2021 Posted May 21, 2021 On 5/21/2021 at 6:59 PM, PeregrineFalcon said: You know, they don't actually have to nerf Rage in order to give Super Strength to Scrappers. Or at least not nerf it on Tanks. They could just Scrappers a version of SS that has Build Up instead of Rage. Problem solved. Expand They nerfed crits for EM on scrappers and stalkers so why not?
PeregrineFalcon Posted May 21, 2021 Posted May 21, 2021 On 5/21/2021 at 10:13 PM, Bill Z Bubba said: They nerfed crits for EM on scrappers and stalkers so why not? Expand *sigh* Yeah... But hey! After they do that, they can go ahead and finally issue Energy Aura to Tankers! Don't worry though, they'll find a way to nerf it so that it's not as good as it should be. Just like they did with EM on Scrappers and Stalkers. 1 Being constantly offended doesn't mean you're right, it means you're too narcissistic to tolerate opinions different than your own.
Bill Z Bubba Posted May 21, 2021 Posted May 21, 2021 On 5/21/2021 at 10:54 PM, PeregrineFalcon said: Don't worry though, they'll find a way to nerf it so that it's not as good as it should be. Just like they did with EM on Scrappers and Stalkers. Expand And people wonder why I say AT balance is a joke and becoming more so with every change. 1
siolfir Posted May 21, 2021 Posted May 21, 2021 (edited) On 5/21/2021 at 10:13 PM, Bill Z Bubba said: They nerfed crits for EM on scrappers and stalkers so why not? Expand To be fair, they were buffed some (on both ATs) when scrappers got a chance at it compared to it only being on stalkers. ET having critical damage, even reduced, and a heal is much nicer than just not taking damage plus they un-nerfed the stun percentages. Conclusion: devs hate scrappers less than stalkers (as if Ninjitsu wasn't the most egregious example). Edited May 21, 2021 by siolfir
PeregrineFalcon Posted May 22, 2021 Posted May 22, 2021 On 5/21/2021 at 11:50 PM, siolfir said: To be fair, they were buffed some (on both ATs) when scrappers got a chance at it compared to it only being on stalkers. ET having critical damage, even reduced, and a heal is much nicer than just not taking damage plus they un-nerfed the stun percentages. Conclusion: devs hate scrappers less than stalkers (as if Ninjitsu wasn't the most egregious example). Expand *@$%&! a heal! I'd much rather just have the correct damage and critical chance on an EM Scrapper and Stalker. 1 Being constantly offended doesn't mean you're right, it means you're too narcissistic to tolerate opinions different than your own.
siolfir Posted May 22, 2021 Posted May 22, 2021 On 5/22/2021 at 7:04 PM, PeregrineFalcon said: *@$%&! a heal! I'd much rather just have the correct damage and critical chance on an EM Scrapper and Stalker. Expand So would I, thus the part of the post saying "devs hate scrappers less than stalkers" instead of "devs love scrappers." 🤪
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