Favorite sub-optimal power?

[Rejolt]

15 minutes ago, Bill Z Bubba said:

I've got one speedster with whirlwind. I use it as an attack instead of a toggle. Toggleon, send the spawn flyin, toggleoff, shadow maul, flurry, sands of mu, sprint on all the time, extra run speed from IOs. I don't play her much, but she is amusing.

Now it's KB to KD IO and +recharge procs. I haven't seen someone use Whirlwind without them on HC. Same for Repel.

 

EDIT: I forgot some players use Repel to knock mobs into the bowl on MSRs.

Edited January 29, 2021 by Rejolt

[Bill Z Bubba]

2 minutes ago, Rejolt said:

Now it's KB to KD IO and +recharge procs.

I should... but there's just something about WW that makes me want to slot it for MORE KB.

[ninja surprise]

56 minutes ago, Bill Z Bubba said:

I should... but there's just something about WW that makes me want to slot it for MORE KB.

That's the spirit! Moar fun!

[TheOtherTed]

Forgot one!  Rain of Arrows, for that embarrassed yet bemused "well, it would've been cool" feeling.

[Nemu]

3 hours ago, The_Warpact said:

Whirlwind lol I love it.

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[Li_Sensei]

15 hours ago, Troo said:

Fearsome Stare.

Fearsome Stare is sub optimal?!?  o_O

 

A relatively huge cone fear (non scattering fear IME) with sizeable tohit debuff and a fast activation that you can use as an opener to shut down a spawn while you get your other debuffs rolling?

 

Yes please, I'll take 3!

[ZorkNemesis]

37 minutes ago, TheOtherTed said:

Forgot one!  Rain of Arrows, for that embarrassed yet bemused "well, it would've been cool" feeling.

RoA is hardly useless, though it may be AT dependent.  On my Blaster, I love it since there's just enough delay on the power dealing damage that I can also deliver a 4.5x Sniper shot to the boss in the group.  My only gripe with the power is that it alerts enemies simply by placing the rain, and when they're out of range of you, they tend to run out of the rain patch.

[The_Warpact]

30 minutes ago, Nemu said:

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[wjrasmussen]

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[TheOtherTed]

1 hour ago, ZorkNemesis said:

RoA is hardly useless, though it may be AT dependent.

That's fair.  My experience with it was on a Kin/Archery defender.  Pop Fulcrum Shift on a speed-boosted team, tap RoA to take advantage of the damage boost, and by the time your animation ends, everything's KO'ed and your team is ten miles away.

 

Meanwhile, a sad trombone plays in the distance...

[Luminara]

8 hours ago, TheOtherTed said:

Brawl.  I can't think of a better way to humiliate your enemy than to finish him off with a bop on the nose.

 

If you have a bow, it's a heel to the crotch.  And yes, it is ever so satisfying.

 

For all of you sad little people who don't use bows, it's the same animation as Kick (Fighting pool).

[eknudson]

51 minutes ago, TheOtherTed said:

That's fair.  My experience with it was on a Kin/Archery defender.  Pop Fulcrum Shift on a speed-boosted team, tap RoA to take advantage of the damage boost, and by the time your animation ends, everything's KO'ed and your team is ten miles away.

 

My archer really felt like a star from about level 35 to the late 40s, nuking every spawn where nobody else could. Then after level 50 when all the other blasters get enough recharge they can almost nuke every spawn too, and their nuke lands SO much faster... the amount of corpse blasting is frustrating.

[Rejolt]

1 hour ago, eknudson said:

My archer really felt like a star from about level 35 to the late 40s, nuking every spawn where nobody else could. Then after level 50 when all the other blasters get enough recharge they can almost nuke every spawn too, and their nuke lands SO much faster... the amount of corpse blasting is frustrating.

Rain of Arrows likely needs a secondary effect like a chance to immobilize.

[Biff Pow]

I don't know if it's "sub-optimal" but most Super Strength builds I see skip Handclap even though it's really useful leveling up. Don't just stand there letting enemies debuff you, smack em down!

[ninja surprise]

59 minutes ago, Supertanker said:

I don't know if it's "sub-optimal" but most Super Strength builds I see skip Handclap even though it's really useful leveling up. Don't just stand there letting enemies debuff you, smack em down!

Oh yeah, I love that one and the Electric Melee's Lightning Clap.  And Thunder clap from Storm @Drazah Krad mentioned at the top of the thread. Everyone gets the Clap!

I put a KB to KD in there with a ton of Acc/Rech and clap like T-Swift is on the stage.

Edited January 30, 2021 by ninja surprise

[Doomguide2005]

51 minutes ago, ninja surprise said:

Oh yeah, I love that one and the Electric Melee's Lightning Clap.  And Thunder clap from Storm @Drazah Krad mentioned at the top of the thread. Everyone gets the Clap!

I put a KB to KD in there with a ton of Acc/Rech and clap like T-Swift is on the stage.

Meanwhile my Earth/Storm will Stalagmite, Thunder Clap and Fissure you into stunned submission.

[ZorkNemesis]

2 hours ago, Supertanker said:

I don't know if it's "sub-optimal" but most Super Strength builds I see skip Handclap even though it's really useful leveling up. Don't just stand there letting enemies debuff you, smack em down!

I took it on my Brute.  SA KB>KD, Explosive Strike and Perfrect Zinger Procs, FF +Recharge, and an IO Accuracy.  Good crowd damage for a set that gets it later than it should and the slight mitigation from everyone being on their ass for a moment is nice.

 

Edited January 30, 2021 by ZorkNemesis

[NihilXAOS]

11 hours ago, Rejolt said:

Honorable mention - Voltaic Sentinel.

 

I have an elec/elec blaster, and I'm SO thinking of dropping voltaic sentinel with a respec. I want to like it, but 60 seconds isn't a long time. 

But then I grew to love using MOG. I giggle when what damage from an alpha gets through heals in one tick.

And yes. We NEED a whip set. I wonder if you could burgle some animation from the CoT guys with the tongues to fill that out.

[summers]

Telekinesis, especially with Domination up!

[America's Angel]

Power Push

Anything that does confuse

[Myrmidon]

The entire Kinetic Melee powerset.

[Rejolt]

6 hours ago, NihilXAOS said:

 

I have an elec/elec blaster, and I'm SO thinking of dropping voltaic sentinel with a respec. I want to like it, but 60 seconds isn't a long time. 

But then I grew to love using MOG. I giggle when what damage from an alpha gets through heals in one tick.

And yes. We NEED a whip set. I wonder if you could burgle some animation from the CoT guys with the tongues to fill that out.

Make sparky like Galvanic Sentinel. Longer duration but it's an entity with HP. Also, a minor aoe like static discharge every 10 seconds or so.

[Leogunner]

Practically every power listed I use liberally in any of my builds except maybe Whirlwind and Galvanic Sentinel (only have a MM /shock character).

 

I'd like to like Black Hole but it's not very friendly but I do like Dimension Shift.  Such a nifty little tool.  You can create a choke point for an ambush (double points if there are foes already inside the choke point to group them up), or drop it on yourself when you don't want to be bothered for a few seconds (I'll just grab this clicky over here and there's nothing you can do).  Can also use it like a temporary trash can to dump (wormhole) foes into and keep them in place.  If people waste their AoEs, no biggie, 3-5 other teammates have plenty of AoEs to cover that.  And a slight miscalculation can be canceled since it's a toggle.

[Coyote]

Burst of Speed. Not that it's a bad power, but it's not a great PBAoE for its recharge... but it's fun. A lot of fun.

I should combine it with Whirlwind someday.

[Grouchybeast]

I took Body Mastery on my Claws/Elec scrapper purely so she could shoot laser beams from her eyes.