Luminara Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 These panels are facing northwest. Where Paragon City is located, in the New England region of North America, the sun would track east to west in the southern sky and the panels would never receive any direct insolation. In other words, the sun would be behind the panels. They're pointed the wrong way. On the same rooftop, there's another series of panels facing southwest. Those panels would receive insolation in the late afternoon and evening... if there weren't buildings right where the sun would be at that time. This is really bugging me now. If Paragon weren't already defunct, I'd fire the person who did this. Twice. With prejudice. And a shoe. 😠 1 2 19 1 Get busy living... or get busy dying. That's goddamn right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TombTyrant Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 Whoever put them in probably figured they'd get scavenged by Clockwork before anyone noticed. 2 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darmian Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 They're directly under Luminary's regular flight path as she patrols the city. 2 2 1 AE SFMA Arcs: The Meteors (Arc id 42079) | Dark Deeds in Galaxy City: Part One. (Arc id 26756) X | Dark Deeds in Galaxy City: Part Two. (Arc id 26952) | Dark Deeds in Galaxy City: Part Three. (Arc id 27233) Darker Deeds: Part One (Arc id 28374) | Darker Deeds: Part Two. (Arc id 28536) | Darker Deeds: Part Three. (Arc id 29252) | Darkest Before Dawn: Part One (Arc id 29891) | Darkest Before Dawn: Part Two (Arc id 30210) | Darkest Before Dawn: Part Three (Arc id 30560) | Bridge of Forever ( Arc id 36642) | The Cassini Division (Arc id 37104) X | The House of Gaunt Saints (Arc id 37489) X | The Spark of the Blind (Arc id 40403) | Damnatio Memoriae (Arc id 41140) X | The Eve of War (Arc id 41583) X I Sing of Arms and the Man (Arc id 42617) | Three Sisters (Arc id 43013) (Pre War Praetorian Loyalist. Pre War Praetorian Resistance.. Pre ITF Cimerora. Post ITF Cimerora. X = Dev Choice/Hall of Fame ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merrypessimist Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 I'd assume they were a scam designed to take advantage of poorly conceived government grants/tax breaks and their actual utility was never a consideration in their positioning. 8 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZorkNemesis Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 I can't imagine they would've worked anyway, given that Astoria's been under a perpetual fog since the 50's. Whoever put those in was likely an idiot. 2 1 8 2 Currently playing on Indomitable as @Zork Nemesis; was a Protector native on live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhym Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 You’re more concerned with the direction the solar panels are facing than the fact that they’re on a building in Dark Astoria? 1 9 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Luminara Posted August 12, 2021 Author Share Posted August 12, 2021 3 hours ago, ZorkNemesis said: I can't imagine they would've worked anyway, given that Astoria's been under a perpetual fog since the 50's. Whoever put those in was likely an idiot. 10 minutes ago, Zhym said: You’re more concerned with the direction the solar panels are facing than the fact that they’re on a building in Dark Astoria? They're all over the city. They're at every university, they're in Atlas Park, they're in Kallisti Wharf (probably in Praetoria, too, since the KW and the current AP are modeled after that aesthetic)... and they're all facing the wrong direction (due east, due west, due north... fucking due north! are you kidding me?!) and/or located in places where they'd be shaded. As far as I've been able to determine, there isn't a single instance of solar panels in the correct (southerly) orientation and situated in a location which doesn't have 35+ story buildings throwing shade on them. 1 Get busy living... or get busy dying. That's goddamn right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraspingVileTerror Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 Given the rest of the architecture and city planning Blueside, are you really that surprised? 3 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myrmidon Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 That has to be government contracts… 1 Playing CoX is it’s own reward Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcadean Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 Disgraceful... I'll come by later and take em' back to my SG's base. 1 - "Lost my mind, went looking for it, now I'm lost too..." I am on Excelsior - @The Game Changer - I am active (7am Eastern / 5pm Eastern) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luminara Posted August 12, 2021 Author Share Posted August 12, 2021 8 minutes ago, Luminara said: As far as I've been able to determine, there isn't a single instance of solar panels in the correct (southerly) orientation and situated in a location which doesn't have 35+ story buildings throwing shade on them. I FOUND ONE! EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! 95 yards due south of the university in Kallisti Wharf. This is my happy place. 4 1 Get busy living... or get busy dying. That's goddamn right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greycat Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 Personally, I'd be more concerned with maze-layout office buildings and warehouses that couldn't possibly function as warehouses first, but... 4 1 3 Primarily on Everlasting. Squid afficionado. Former creator of Copypastas. General smartalec. I tried to combine Circle and DE, but all I got were garden variety evil mages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shred Monkey Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 (edited) It's ok. They still got their 30% government subsidy for purchase and install costs which were artificially marked up by 250% and paid to their wholly owned subsidiary panel sales and installation company. So essentially the panels paid for themselves as soon as they were installed. Edited August 12, 2021 by Shred Monkey 3 Active on Excelsior: Prismatic Monkey - Seismic / Martial Blaster, Storm Dragon Monkey - Electric / Dual Blades Tank, Gadget Hunter Monkey - Dual Wield / Traps Corruptor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasperStone Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 These are not solar panels .... It is a Nemesis plot 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arcane Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 Do you really need solar panels when some of your citizens can produce electricity or atomic energy with their hands? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazl Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 Kudos to the salesman who sold them in Dark Astoria. 6 Dazl - Excelsior Grav/Kinetic Controller (SG - Cosmic Council) | Dazl - Everlasting & Torchbearer Grav/Energy Dominator Shadowspawn - Excelsior Dark/Dark Stalker | Pyro Kinetic -Everlasting Fire/Kinetic Corrupter | Nova Pyre - Everlasting Fire/Fire/Fire Blaster (OMG) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhym Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 22 minutes ago, arcane said: Do you really need solar panels when some of your citizens can produce electricity or atomic energy with their hands? They're probably more for backup in case someone finally manages to take out Terra Volta or blow the Faultline dam. With the main sources of power being such juicy targets for villainous activity, is it any wonder that there would be a push for distributed solar energy at some point in the city's history? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arcane Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 38 minutes ago, Dazl said: Kudos to the salesman who sold them in Dark Astoria. Probably also sold them some of that volcano insurance 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenosone Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 9 minutes ago, arcane said: Probably also sold them some of that volcano insurance Can i have some giant robot insurance? Possibly smaller robot insurance too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris24601 Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 3 hours ago, Greycat said: Personally, I'd be more concerned with maze-layout office buildings and warehouses that couldn't possibly function as warehouses first, but... Nothing to fear good citizen. All the architects in the city secretly belong to the Midnighters. Their building designs cause people to regularly trace out geomantric patterns that prevent the Things from the Outer Darkness from being able to invade our realm. You may gripe about the long commute to your office in the back end of the building, but its either that or Tentacles!!! coming out of places you don't even want to think about*. * the back of my refrigerator; what are you, a pervert? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhym Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Xenosone said: Can i have some giant robot insurance? Possibly smaller robot insurance too. After what happened to Overbrook, Eastgate, Venice, White Plains, Baumton, Astoria, and Woodvale—not to mention the level of everyday theft and property destruction—I'd expect that any insurance company in Paragon City has either long gone bankrupt or gotten very good at not paying out claims. Edited August 12, 2021 by Zhym 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srmalloy Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 3 hours ago, Dazl said: Kudos to the salesman who sold them in Dark Astoria. Since Astoria was relatively untouched by the Rikti War, and didn't have the initial takeover by the BP until after that, it's possible that the solar panels were installed prior to 2000, before anything happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyperstrike Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 16 hours ago, Luminara said: These panels are facing northwest. Where Paragon City is located, in the New England region of North America, the sun would track east to west in the southern sky and the panels would never receive any direct insolation. In other words, the sun would be behind the panels. They're pointed the wrong way. On the same rooftop, there's another series of panels facing southwest. Those panels would receive insolation in the late afternoon and evening... if there weren't buildings right where the sun would be at that time. This is really bugging me now. If Paragon weren't already defunct, I'd fire the person who did this. Twice. With prejudice. And a shoe. 😠 This is what happens when you don't check references for your installers. You get half-assery like this... 1 If you want to be godlike, pick anything. If you want to be GOD, pick a TANK! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZorkNemesis Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 5 hours ago, arcane said: Probably also sold them some of that volcano insurance To be fair, there is volcanic activity under Paragon. A fair bit under Eastgate Park (The Hollows) and plenty of the blue cave maps have visible magma channels in spots. 1 Currently playing on Indomitable as @Zork Nemesis; was a Protector native on live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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