Water Blast Storm Summoning?

[Snarky]

I have an oddball concept for a Water Blast Storm Power character and cannot decide what AT to do it with.  Any Ideas?  I assume Water Blast is a given ,,, and Storm Summoning? Probably? Is there another Storm set?  Or Wind set?  So Corruptor?  Defender?

[GraspingVileTerror]

A Wind Set?

https://hcwiki.cityofheroes.dev/wiki/Wind_Control

 

I mean, I wasn't overly thrilled about it, but I'm so starved for a new Control Set that I'll take it at this point!

[Omega Force]

Defender chassis is pretty solid.  Here's an armored build for you to play with.

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Level 50 Magic Defender
Primary Power Set: Storm Summoning
Secondary Power Set: Water Blast
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Leaping
Ancillary Pool: Electricity Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Gale -- SuddAcc--KB/+KD(A), FrcFdb-Rechg%(21)
Level 1: Aqua Bolt -- Thn-Acc/Dmg(A), Thn-Dmg/EndRdx(3), Thn-Dmg/Rchg(3), Thn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(5), Thn-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(5), Thn-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(7)
Level 2: O2 Boost -- DctWnd-Heal/EndRdx(A)
Level 4: Snow Storm -- PcnoftheT-Acc/EndRdx(A), PcnoftheT-EndRdx/Rchg/Slow(11)
Level 6: Steamy Mist -- TtnCtn-ResDam/EndRdx(A), TtnCtn-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(13), Rct-ResDam%(13), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(15), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(46), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(46)
Level 8: Freezing Rain -- UndDfn-DefDeb/Rchg/EndRdx(A)
Level 10: Water Burst -- SprVglAss-Acc/Dmg(A), SprVglAss-Dmg/Rchg(15), SprVglAss-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(17), SprVglAss-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(19), SprVglAss-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(19), SprVglAss-Rchg/+Absorb(21)
Level 12: Hurricane -- DmpSpr-ToHitDeb/Rchg/EndRdx(A), DmpSpr-ToHitDeb/EndRdx(17)
Level 14: Fly -- WntGif-ResSlow(A)
Level 16: Tidal Forces -- GssSynFr--Build%(A)
Level 18: Kick -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A)
Level 20: Dehydrate -- Thn-Acc/Dmg(A), Thn-Dmg/EndRdx(23), Thn-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(23), Apc-Dam%(25), AchHee-ResDeb%(25), ThfofEss-+End%(27)
Level 22: Tough -- RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(27), RctArm-ResDam(29), GldArm-3defTpProc(29)
Level 24: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(31), LucoftheG-Def(31), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(31)
Level 26: Tornado -- OvrFrc-Acc/Dmg(A), OvrFrc-End/Rech(33), OvrFrc-Acc/Dmg/End(33), OvrFrc-Dmg/End/Rech(33), OvrFrc-Acc/Dmg/End/Rech(34), OvrFrc-Dam/KB(34)
Level 28: Water Jet -- SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg(A), SprWntBit-Dmg/Rchg(34), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(36), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(36), SprWntBit-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(36), SprWntBit-Rchg/SlowProc(37)
Level 30: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(37), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(37)
Level 32: Lightning Storm -- SprDfnBst-Acc/Dmg(A), SprDfnBst-Dmg/Rchg(39), SprDfnBst-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(39), SprDfnBst-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(39), SprDfnBst-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(40), SprDfnBst-Rchg/Heal%(40)
Level 35: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), Ksm-ToHit+(40)
Level 38: Geyser -- SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg(A), SprFrzBls-Dmg/EndRdx(42), SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(42), SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(42), SprFrzBls-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(43), SprFrzBls-Rchg/ImmobProc(43)
Level 41: Thunder Strike -- ScrDrv-Dmg/EndRdx(A), ScrDrv-Dmg/Rchg(43), ScrDrv-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(45)
Level 44: Charged Armor -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(45), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(45), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(46)
Level 47: Shocking Bolt -- BslGaz-Acc/Hold(A), BslGaz-Acc/Rchg(48), BslGaz-Rchg/Hold(48), BslGaz-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(48), BslGaz-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(50), Lck-%Hold(50)
Level 49: Hover -- BlsoftheZ-Travel/EndRdx(A), BlsoftheZ-ResKB(50)
Level 1: Vigilance 
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Clr-Stlth(A)
Level 2: Rest -- EndMod-I(A)
Level 2: Swift -- Flight-I(A)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(7), Mrc-Rcvry+(9)
Level 2: Stamina -- EndMod-I(A), PrfShf-EndMod(9), PrfShf-End%(11)
Level 50: Intuition Radial Paragon 
Level 50: Ion Core Final Judgement 
Level 50: Reactive Radial Flawless Interface 
Level 50: Rebirth Radial Epiphany 
Level 50: Storm Elemental Core Superior Ally 
Level 14: Afterburner 
Level 1: Combo Level 1 
Level 1: Combo Level 2 
Level 1: Combo Level 3 
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[Glacier Peak]

Defender!

[Nemeroff]

Corruptor!

 

Don't have my notes ATM but this same debate was brought up before.

[arcane]

Defender or Corruptor would be fine on this one. Storm doesn’t lose all that much from stepping down to Corruptor multipliers.

[merrypessimist]

1 hour ago, arcane said:

Defender or Corruptor would be fine on this one. Storm doesn’t lose all that much from stepping down to Corruptor multipliers.

 

Either way it'll be pretty late blooming.  Great when it gets there though.

[Sovera]

Defender. If you're going to be a Stormie then accept the fact you're going to be a Stormie. Everything else is just a filler between the glory that is cosplaying Thor.

 

So Defender so you can Storm sooner.

 

Personally I liked Ice more than Water despite the fact Storm/Ice's AoE was weak sauce. But it was a clear case of missing out on Ice's ST when on the Water and missing out Water's AoE when on the Ice.

[Snarky]

Thanks for the replies.  It is a complete "goof" character   I will probably run as a Defender since I have never ran one of those

Edited August 15, 2021 by Snarky

[arcane]

12 minutes ago, Snarky said:

Thanks for the replies.  It is a complete "goof" character   I will probably run as a Defender since I have never ran one of those

Pfft, no storm is a goof. OP set.

[Bill Z Bubba]

4 hours ago, Sovera said:

Everything else is just a filler between the glory that is cosplaying Thor.

 

Wait.. what? I thought Thor was an Elec/Mace tank...

[Dazl]

Water/Storm corrupter all the way. Prefer a little more dps myself. I have one on Torchbearer, and it is fun. I’ve always liked storm, you just have to play it smartly.

[TheZag]

Be sure and enhance the knockback.  I want to see those hellions shot from excel and land on torch.

[Col. Kernel]

4 hours ago, TheZag said:

Be sure and enhance the knockback.  I want to see those hellions shot from excel and land on torch.

 

My 2nd or 3rd character, long about Issue 3 (Texas Twister, now The OriginalTexasTwister), was created as part of a KB group (Storm/Energy Def) from the Forums.

 

Two of us (lvl 5 or 6 at the time) simultaneously Gale'd some poor Hellion off the top of a hill in the Hollows.  I never did figure out where he got to, and I did go looking for him.

[Sailboat]

On 8/15/2021 at 3:44 PM, merrypessimist said:

 

Either way it'll be pretty late blooming.  Great when it gets there though.

Late?  Defenders get Hurricane at 12.  You can immediately go hunting red bosses in Steel Canyon; Hurricane renders them comically helpless.

[oedipus_tex]

Storm is a damage support set that doesn't get Scourge damage in its powers, but does get the Defender global damage bonus, so IMO it favors Defenders.

[Snarky]

2 hours ago, oedipus_tex said:

Storm is a damage support set that doesn't get Scourge damage in its powers, but does get the Defender global damage bonus, so IMO it favors Defenders.

That is really important to know thank you

[Gulbasaur]

11 hours ago, oedipus_tex said:

Storm is a damage support set that doesn't get Scourge damage in its powers, but does get the Defender global damage bonus, so IMO it favors Defenders.

100% agree - Scourge doesn't benefit it meaningfully, plus freezing rain and hurricane coming much earlier means that a Defender is "ready to go" much earlier than on a Corruptor. Obviously, if you're levelling slowly that's more of an issue, but I found that levelling a storm/water defender was pretty painless, playing more like a soft-control dominator than a support spec per se.

[Xenosone]

It doesnt natter what At you put it on, just set gale to autocast and full speed ahead!

[Psyonico]

1 hour ago, Xenosone said:

It doesnt natter what At you put it on, just set gale to autocast and full speed ahead!

 

Don't forget to follow the tank before you do this.

[Dazl]

3 hours ago, Xenosone said:

It doesnt natter what At you put it on, just set gale to autocast and full speed ahead!

Gale can be a handy power if you put a KB->KD on it.

[roleki]

16 minutes ago, Dazl said:

Gale can be a handy power if you put a KB->KD on it.

With the KB->KD and a FF+Recharge, Gale is really close to being a must-have T1 power.  If Storm didn't require so much slotting, I bet Gale would be a decent Annihilation -Res mule as well.

[Glacier Peak]

1 hour ago, roleki said:

With the KB->KD and a FF+Recharge, Gale is really close to being a must-have T1 power.  If Storm didn't require so much slotting, I bet Gale would be a decent Annihilation -Res mule as well.

I'm looking at a decent way to slot Gale, and your suggestion is something I'm going to try!

Edited August 19, 2021 by Glacier Peak
You're to your*

[roleki]

14 hours ago, Glacier Peak said:

I'm looking at a decent way to slot Gale, and your suggestion is something I'm going to try!

I usually slot it with the two procs I mentioned, and a KB/Acc from either set (gives the same movement speed bonus).  I also slot a FF+Rech and a KB:KD in Tornado, and a third FF+Rech somewhere else, if the build allows, but NOT in Hurricane because I've never seen it trigger off that.  In any event, 3x FF+Rech in an attack cycle seems to net perma 100% recharge in combat, or as close as you can count on given a random proc.  

 

Sorry for blathering, waiting at the mechanic's joint and am a bit on the bored side.

[Dazl]

Hurricane is another power that gets a bad rap because people don't know how to use it. I love storm for it's glorious chaos, but requires finesse when teaming.