Without_Pause Posted September 3, 2019 Posted September 3, 2019 20 minutes ago, Apparition said: Spines/Fire? No. Any farmer at all? Yes. I don't think the player base on the forums is really representative for all of those who play. I don't think players as a default have a farmer. Just having a level 50 can get you a lot of rewards. Cost of pimping out builds on HC is cheaper or at least easier versus live. 1 Top 10 Most Fun 50s. 1. Without Mercy: Claws/ea Scrapper. 2. Outsmart: Fort 3. Sneakers: Stj/ea Stalker. 4. Emma Strange: Ill/dark Controller. 5. Project Next: Ice/stone Brute. 6. Waterpark: Water/temp Blaster. 6. Mighty Matt: Rad/bio Brute. 7. Without Hesitation: Claws/sr Scrapper. 8. Within Reach: Axe/stone Brute. 9. Without Pause: Claws/wp Brute. 10. Chasing Fireworks: Fire/time Controller. "Downtime is for mortals. Debt is temporary. Fame is forever."
Vanden Posted September 3, 2019 Posted September 3, 2019 7 minutes ago, Without_Pause said: /regen just needs more investment and /wp will be a smoother ride. /regen also has a well known character and others giving it the needed eyeballs. It is tougher to think of a superhero who has willpower versus regen or invulnerability. John McClane! 2 A Cheat Sheet for efficient Endurance Recovery slotting Invention Set Designer Tool Spreadsheet with every Ancillary Power Pool
Xeres Posted September 3, 2019 Posted September 3, 2019 Thank you for the info! I couldn't believe my eyes that Spines and Fire were the most popular set choices for Brutes. Who knew?
Without_Pause Posted September 3, 2019 Posted September 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Xeres said: Thank you for the info! I couldn't believe my eyes that Spines and Fire were the most popular set choices for Brutes. Who knew? Hang out in AE. Top 10 Most Fun 50s. 1. Without Mercy: Claws/ea Scrapper. 2. Outsmart: Fort 3. Sneakers: Stj/ea Stalker. 4. Emma Strange: Ill/dark Controller. 5. Project Next: Ice/stone Brute. 6. Waterpark: Water/temp Blaster. 6. Mighty Matt: Rad/bio Brute. 7. Without Hesitation: Claws/sr Scrapper. 8. Within Reach: Axe/stone Brute. 9. Without Pause: Claws/wp Brute. 10. Chasing Fireworks: Fire/time Controller. "Downtime is for mortals. Debt is temporary. Fame is forever."
Eva Destruction Posted September 3, 2019 Posted September 3, 2019 3 hours ago, Apparition said: Spines/Fire? No. Any farmer at all? Yes. Maybe among the people you run into, but if you're a farmer you're going to run into a lot of other farmers. That doesn't mean everyone farms. A lot of people find it really tedious and would rather poke their eyes out with a spork than farm, let alone roll and level a character for the sole purpose of farming. 1
Greeno34 Posted September 3, 2019 Posted September 3, 2019 Very interesting stuff. Thank you for sharing this!
Troo Posted September 4, 2019 Posted September 4, 2019 Great job! Of course immediately it appears there might be a correlation between posted builds on the net (going back to live), hype (fotm now and then) and lack of creativity (min/max copycats). Maybe that's harsh.. but it's really hard to roll a truly terrible combo. "Homecoming is not perfect but it is still better than the alternative.. at least so far" - Unknown (Wise words Unknown!) Si vis pacem, para bellum
Thunder Frog Posted September 4, 2019 Posted September 4, 2019 Thanks for the info Cipher. Very interesting!
Subject 22J2 Posted September 4, 2019 Posted September 4, 2019 I might be 1.5 unicorns. My Fire/Plant blaster hit 50 on Friday. There are 33 listed. My Katana/Bio Brute is nearing 50. There are 11 listed.
Fan Mail Posted September 4, 2019 Posted September 4, 2019 (edited) 20 hours ago, Eva Destruction said: Maybe among the people you run into, but if you're a farmer you're going to run into a lot of other farmers. That doesn't mean everyone farms. A lot of people find it really tedious and would rather poke their eyes out with a spork than farm, let alone roll and level a character for the sole purpose of farming. Kind of on this note, I did make my Spines/FA Brute got him to level 31 (general content and some AE) to find out what all the hype was about. The Spines power animations are a huge negative to me. There he sits at 31. Not sure I'll pick him back up when there's hundreds of other character slots left to fill! Edited September 4, 2019 by tafilr
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The Bobby Llama Posted September 4, 2019 Posted September 4, 2019 On 9/2/2019 at 2:13 AM, Vanden said: So who are the unicorns? If you have a character with a Primary/Secondary combination that's listed up there as the only 50 of its kind, you have to tell us, it's the law. I'm not quite a unicorn, but it looks like I'm the closest we've come so far: Blaster 160 Sonic Attack Fire Manipulation 2 Charredcore, Everlasting server. This is a really strong combo, too. Been having a lot of fun with it. I also have a Demon/Traps MM at 50, of which there are only 4. Everlasting: Charredcore (Sonic/Fire Blaster) Fleabitten (Savage/SR Brute) ● And many, many more!
SlimPickens Posted September 4, 2019 Posted September 4, 2019 On 9/1/2019 at 7:36 AM, Hyperstrike said: With all the grumbling about SS, it's still nearly 3x as prevalent as the next most preferred secondary for Tanks... Sorry, I'm gonna laugh over this. Also why theres 3x as many people complaining about it being crap in that thread. People play it because they wanted it to be fun, it not being fun is because it has a crap mechanic, hence theres hundreds of people out of the thousand who chose it complaining on the forum. The rest just dont post. Apologist and talk around it not being bad all you want. its still bad. Its just bad for a lot of people, which is why theres a huge thread on it being bad. 3
Hyperstrike Posted September 4, 2019 Posted September 4, 2019 15 minutes ago, SlimPickens said: Also why theres 3x as many people complaining about it being crap in that thread. People play it because they wanted it to be fun, it not being fun is because it has a crap mechanic, hence theres hundreds of people out of the thousand who chose it complaining on the forum. The rest just dont post. Apologist and talk around it not being bad all you want. its still bad. Its just bad for a lot of people, which is why theres a huge thread on it being bad. As I've said elsewhere. Adapt or die. "I don't want to..." is the refrain of the lazy person. If you want to be godlike, pick anything. If you want to be GOD, pick a TANK!
Dark Current Posted September 4, 2019 Posted September 4, 2019 Why is darkness manipulation so unpopular on blasters?
Without_Pause Posted September 4, 2019 Posted September 4, 2019 10 minutes ago, Dark Current said: Why is darkness manipulation so unpopular on blasters? I rolled a D/d and Psy/d. I might only keep one. My problem is I absolutely love Water and so far have gone /ice and /temp with it so I never devote that much time to /dark. /dark don't do much for Water either or at least in a standout way. Water/dark would be interesting with Water's mitigation and Death Shroud. That's about it for something to lure me. Top 10 Most Fun 50s. 1. Without Mercy: Claws/ea Scrapper. 2. Outsmart: Fort 3. Sneakers: Stj/ea Stalker. 4. Emma Strange: Ill/dark Controller. 5. Project Next: Ice/stone Brute. 6. Waterpark: Water/temp Blaster. 6. Mighty Matt: Rad/bio Brute. 7. Without Hesitation: Claws/sr Scrapper. 8. Within Reach: Axe/stone Brute. 9. Without Pause: Claws/wp Brute. 10. Chasing Fireworks: Fire/time Controller. "Downtime is for mortals. Debt is temporary. Fame is forever."
Errants Posted September 4, 2019 Posted September 4, 2019 5 hours ago, Trickshooter said: You wouldn't be hinting at anything, would you? Death is the best debuff.
Jon Posted September 5, 2019 Posted September 5, 2019 On 9/2/2019 at 12:13 AM, Vanden said: So who are the unicorns? If you have a character with a Primary/Secondary combination that's listed up there as the only 50 of its kind, you have to tell us, it's the law. I apparently have the only 50 Sonic/Traps Corruptor, Airwave on Everlasting. 1 Check me out on VirtueVerse!
SlimPickens Posted September 5, 2019 Posted September 5, 2019 7 hours ago, Hyperstrike said: As I've said elsewhere. Adapt or die. "I don't want to..." is the refrain of the lazy person. Yeah because 999 out of the 1100 people who picked super strength find the mechanic broken and terrible they must all be wrong and clearly you are right. apparently not enjoying standing around for 10 seconds every minute in trade for mediocre performance is lazy. Just to be clear, I have hated rage since live, because -9999% damage should never be a mechanic in the game, and now with the -def penalty on top its just crap flavored icing on a poop flavored cake. But anyways, we can agree to disagree in that thread. It is interesting to see the numbers on how many picked ss, I truly wonder how many actually play the toons still after hitting 50, and how many of those play without rage at all to avoid the badly thought out mechanics. I know I rarely if ever play mine anymore, and every time I do I think of how I could be playing one of the many fun characters I have instead and performing better to boot. Cool animations, iconic powerset. Terrible +dam mechanic. What a shame, really. 1 1
Huron Posted September 5, 2019 Posted September 5, 2019 On 9/2/2019 at 3:13 AM, Vanden said: So who are the unicorns? If you have a character with a Primary/Secondary combination that's listed up there as the only 50 of its kind, you have to tell us, it's the law. I have one of the only 3 Radiation/Broadsword Tankers. (Biomorphic Goober, Rad/BS/Mu)
Hyperstrike Posted September 5, 2019 Posted September 5, 2019 5 hours ago, SlimPickens said: Yeah because 999 out of the 1100 people who picked super strength find the mechanic broken and terrible they must all be wrong and clearly you are right. apparently not enjoying standing around for 10 seconds every minute in trade for mediocre performance is lazy. Just to be clear, I have hated rage since live, because -9999% damage should never be a mechanic in the game, and now with the -def penalty on top its just crap flavored icing on a poop flavored cake. Okay, if you're "standing around", you're doing it wrong. 5 hours ago, SlimPickens said: But anyways, we can agree to disagree in that thread. It is interesting to see the numbers on how many picked ss, I truly wonder how many actually play the toons still after hitting 50, and how many of those play without rage at all to avoid the badly thought out mechanics. I know I rarely if ever play mine anymore, and every time I do I think of how I could be playing one of the many fun characters I have instead and performing better to boot. Cool animations, iconic powerset. Terrible +dam mechanic. What a shame, really. I play my Inv/SS and SS/Inv toons ALL THE TIME. If you want to be godlike, pick anything. If you want to be GOD, pick a TANK!
Marine X Posted September 5, 2019 Posted September 5, 2019 (edited) Play Marine almost every day, have Perma-Rage, and with all the Resist Damage Invulnerability Gives me I really don't notice it drop. My Set bonus's and Incarnates compensate to the point where I really don't have to stop and wait for anything. I suppose with more Defensively based sets it could be a problem. Personally I take what they give me and turn it into a steak dinner. Just glad to be back playing him and I've always tried to not be the squeaky wheel, so I just consider it a normal part of life to have to deal with changes and challenges Edited September 5, 2019 by Marine X " When it's too tough for everyone else, it's just right for me..." ( Unless it's Raining, or Cold, or Really Dirty or there are Sappers, Man I hate those Guys...) Marine X
Myrmidon Posted September 5, 2019 Posted September 5, 2019 On 9/1/2019 at 10:38 AM, jubakumbi said: Based on these charts, like 5 out of 10 people are running around as Spines/Fire, yet I have only seen like two while playing the game... Go into Atlas AE for the badge during primetime and you’ll see quite a few. Playing CoX is it’s own reward
Without_Pause Posted September 5, 2019 Posted September 5, 2019 The ability to use 2x XP packs to get 50 all the quicker and having a way to farm content to offset any influ loss seems fairly obvious why Spines/fire builds happen. I did the Patron arc with mine and got it to 44. I think I see the end of me using it though. I think instead at some point I'll delete/rename the character so I can use the name for something outside of AE and work in a TW/bio brute who can still do S/L maps while being regular content viable. Hell, if my level 32 Claws/wp brute can solo regular content at +2/x4 with nothing but common IOs, a TW/bio brute will be more than fine. I've done Spines in other builds. I've made it truly look good once. The lack of ST is frustrating. And /fire? (chuckles) Top 10 Most Fun 50s. 1. Without Mercy: Claws/ea Scrapper. 2. Outsmart: Fort 3. Sneakers: Stj/ea Stalker. 4. Emma Strange: Ill/dark Controller. 5. Project Next: Ice/stone Brute. 6. Waterpark: Water/temp Blaster. 6. Mighty Matt: Rad/bio Brute. 7. Without Hesitation: Claws/sr Scrapper. 8. Within Reach: Axe/stone Brute. 9. Without Pause: Claws/wp Brute. 10. Chasing Fireworks: Fire/time Controller. "Downtime is for mortals. Debt is temporary. Fame is forever."
Vyx Posted September 5, 2019 Posted September 5, 2019 Hah, one of the only 4 level 50 Katana/Energy brutes! @Vyx found mostly on the Everlasting server! [@Vyxen from Virtue] Total Lvl 50 Toon Count: 13 Maalik - vet lvl 320 Katana/Energy Brute Supreme Soviet - vet lvl 12 Fire/Fire Dominator
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