trogenion Posted January 30, 2020 Posted January 30, 2020 but what is the best AT, and secondary to use it with? 2
Wintercat Posted January 30, 2020 Posted January 30, 2020 I, too, love Dual Blades. As for the best secondary, it depends on your preferences. Do you prefer a more "natural" secondary? Willpower or Super reflexes. Basically, everything works. some secondaies are better in some situations, but the real question is, what do you find to be fun? 1
nihilii Posted January 30, 2020 Posted January 30, 2020 (edited) I'd rank it 1) Stalker 2) Tanker 3) Scrapper 4) Brute Rationale: - Stalkers do the most damage thanks to Assassin's Blades. Getting Build Up instead of Blinding Feint gives them great burst ability. Perhaps the one point of contention would be their lack of a big, meaty hitter to start the fight with a guaranteed crit, but if you're not against epic attacks, you can fill that hole with the snipes in either Mu or Soul mastery. - Tankers got a lot of utility out of the recent buff. Sweeping Strike hits 10 targets rather than 5, One Thousand Cuts and Typhoon's Edge hit 16 rather than 10, cones are wider and Typhoon's radius is twice bigger. - Scrappers (like Tankers) benefit from Blinding Feint's +damage, and crits work nicely to complement Dual Blades relatively low damage per hit (because you don't one-shot things left and right, you're less likely to "waste" damage in overkill crits). - Brutes benefit less from Blinding Feint due to their Fury mechanics - because they start at lower base damage as a result. As for secondary, /bio because /bio is OP with everything. 🙂 Can't go wrong with a damage aura + a -res aura + offensive adaptation giving you tohit, damage, and extra toxic damage on your attacks. And all that absorb. And the regeneration, and the recovery. Listing /bio perks is an endless task. But really, you can make any secondary work. Edited January 30, 2020 by nihilii 3
DougGraves Posted January 30, 2020 Posted January 30, 2020 4 hours ago, nihilii said: I'd rank it 1) Stalker 2) Tanker 3) Scrapper 4) Brute I don't know stalkers or dual blades, but I saw a post that stalkers have to use placate as part of the dual blades combo, so that makes it lame for many levels. Apparently once you get high enough you just spam one combo that doesn't require placate so it doesn't matter.
Lazarillo Posted January 30, 2020 Posted January 30, 2020 If Critical Strikes + Blinding Feint is anywhere near as good as Critical Strikes + Follow-Up for Claws (and I strongly suspect it is), then Scrappers make for a good synergy. I mained a DB/Invuln Scrapper for many years on the old servers, in fact, and even without things like ATOs and other such nice perks that have come around in Homecoming, it was quite the slicey machine.
Apparition Posted January 30, 2020 Posted January 30, 2020 Any secondary with +recharge is good with Dual Blades. Energy Aura, Electric Armor, Radiation.
Solarverse Posted January 30, 2020 Posted January 30, 2020 1 hour ago, DougGraves said: I don't know stalkers or dual blades, but I saw a post that stalkers have to use placate as part of the dual blades combo, so that makes it lame for many levels. Apparently once you get high enough you just spam one combo that doesn't require placate so it doesn't matter. I will never play a Stalker without Placate. These other guys can run without it if they want to, but regardless of how obsolete Placate becomes, I will always find ways to make it useful. Honestly though, they need to revert it back to it's original state. SFX and Music Mods by Solarverse (Consolidated) WP/EM God Mode Tank Guide and Build Help Support the Return of Missing Code for Sound Files!
trogenion Posted January 31, 2020 Author Posted January 31, 2020 i do have a DB rad, stalker i could bring back up, thanks
Fan Mail Posted January 31, 2020 Posted January 31, 2020 (edited) Dual Blades - all of that movement, swings, arcs, etc. It's like you're a ballerina on stage except ballerinas do more damage! Kidding aside, glad you enjoy it! Edited January 31, 2020 by tafilr 1
Vanden Posted January 31, 2020 Posted January 31, 2020 17 hours ago, trogenion said: but what is the best AT, and secondary to use it with? I thought you said you don't care how it performs 1 1 A Cheat Sheet for efficient Endurance Recovery slotting Invention Set Designer Tool Spreadsheet with every Ancillary Power Pool
Myrmidon Posted January 31, 2020 Posted January 31, 2020 Play every AT that has it. Playing CoX is it’s own reward
Haijinx Posted January 31, 2020 Posted January 31, 2020 No no no no. The most epic thing about DB is the confront/taunt animation. So Stalkers are no. 1
trogenion Posted February 1, 2020 Author Posted February 1, 2020 alright level 23 so far with the DB/rad and loving it, grabbed hasten because hey perma hasten, should be easy enough here, esp if i do an alpha slot that does recharge lol
SaintD Posted February 2, 2020 Posted February 2, 2020 Stalkers are probably best suited for it because Stalkers are naturally loldamage and thus paper over some of the shortcomings of DB. /bio as way to kill enemy resistance to lethal would pair the best. Enemy smash/lethal resist REALLY bites into any set that's those damage types. However, as someone mentioned up above, a Tanker suddenly became potentially hilarious with Bio as the primary, and I think I'm going to have to try that for myself. The idiot formerly known as Lord Khorak
Machariel Posted February 2, 2020 Posted February 2, 2020 I think it's best on stalkers, provided you basically ignore the combo mechanics and go Ablating -> Sweeping -> Ablating -> Assassin's Blades. The only combo you really want is the Sweep combo (Build Up -> Assassin's -> Ablating), which is fine because you get to use every time your Build Up recharges, which is constantly because you're a stalker with the stalker ATOs. If you're not feeling a stalker I'd say put in on a scrapper and pair it with /bio because /bio is OP 😂
honoroit Posted February 2, 2020 Posted February 2, 2020 (edited) Never tried dual blades, though there's some great weapon options (like dual chainsaws!) 'Everyone' seems to say it's fiddly. Stalker might be better with build up, as the others have the blinding feint, which you have to persistently weave into the attack chain. Edited February 2, 2020 by honoroit
Shockacon Posted February 2, 2020 Posted February 2, 2020 I rather liked playing DB to 50 on my /nin stalker. There are several powers I skipped from /nin to grab more stuff out of the power pools. Plus, using the vanguard weapons you can pretend your stalker has lightsabers. I know I did.
Call Me Awesome Posted February 2, 2020 Posted February 2, 2020 Here's a thought if you like the look but don't like how it plays why not roll a Claws character and use one of the blades options instead of claws? Guardian Survivor, occasional tanker and player of most AT's. Guides: Invulnerability Tankers, The first 20 levels. Invulnerability Tankers Soft Cap defense Spoiler
lemming Posted February 2, 2020 Posted February 2, 2020 On 1/30/2020 at 6:33 PM, Haijinx said: No no no no. The most epic thing about DB is the confront/taunt animation. So Stalkers are no. Heh. My Dual Blade/WP scrapper has the Taunt proc that can cause Psionic damage. One of my favorite chars to play too.
trogenion Posted February 2, 2020 Author Posted February 2, 2020 Man i remember when db came out and groups if 8 using db on the test server. Dostinct sounds. Heh.
Ulysses Dare Posted February 3, 2020 Posted February 3, 2020 20 hours ago, trogenion said: Man i remember when db came out and groups if 8 using db on the test server. Dostinct sounds. Heh. I played in one of those groups. Seven DB/Willpower scrappers and one Willpower/DB tank—each of us wielding a different pair of weapons. Weapon customization was new too that issue and that's when I knew it was going to be a big hit.
trogenion Posted February 3, 2020 Author Posted February 3, 2020 3 hours ago, Ulysses Dare said: I played in one of those groups. Seven DB/Willpower scrappers and one Willpower/DB tank—each of us wielding a different pair of weapons. Weapon customization was new too that issue and that's when I knew it was going to be a big hit. Want to do that again sometime heh
MrAxe Posted February 5, 2020 Posted February 5, 2020 Agent Stab is my Willpower/Dual Blades Tank and its always been a lot of fun.
THEDarkTyger Posted February 6, 2020 Posted February 6, 2020 On 2/2/2020 at 11:25 AM, Call Me Awesome said: Here's a thought if you like the look but don't like how it plays why not roll a Claws character and use one of the blades options instead of claws? Because the animation set isn't as fun?
Sailboat Posted February 6, 2020 Posted February 6, 2020 Particularly fond of the way Typhoon's Edge looks when performed by a female character -- so graceful.
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