Wiki getting harder to load

[Troo]

Why?

 

hcwiki.cityofheroes.dev has issues.

 

the paragon wiki loads wicked fast without issue.

[AboveTheChemist]

Michiyo reported earlier today on discord that there are some hardware issues with the wiki server and the wiki is down while those are being resolved. 

Edited December 20, 2021 by AboveTheChemist
clarification

[Aurora_Girl]

1 hour ago, Troo said:

Why?

 

hcwiki.cityofheroes.dev has issues.

 

the paragon wiki loads wicked fast without issue.

 

Paragon Wiki is old and outdated. Please don't use it or, by mentioning it, advocate its use. 

[Troo]

3 hours ago, Aurora_Girl said:

 

Paragon Wiki is old and outdated. Please don't use it or, by mentioning it, advocate its use. 

 

as clearly as possible I referred to the HC wiki as having issues.

 

the older Paragon wiki does not have the same issues.

 

these are commonly referred to as facts.

[Aurora_Girl]

1 hour ago, Troo said:

 

as clearly as possible I referred to the HC wiki as having issues.

 

the older Paragon wiki does not have the same issues.

 

these are commonly referred to as facts.

 

The older site doesn't have "the same issues" because it's not being actively updated or maintained. HCWiki is.

Edited December 21, 2021 by Aurora_Girl
Trying to be less "abusive." 🤙

[Michiyo]

Yes, the Wiki has been running very slow recently, because one of the drives was throwing errors but not bad enough to trigger intervention by the host.  Yesterday the drive gave up the ghost, and took out the storage array, luckily I run backups so I just had to re-deploy the hypervisor software and restore backups.  After some extra work today the server should be much more responsive.

[Luminara]

9 hours ago, Aurora_Girl said:

Paragon Wiki is old and outdated.

 

So are most of us.

[SuperPlyx]

HC Wiki is working fine for me today.

[Doomguide2005]

8 hours ago, Luminara said:

 

So are most of us.

Truth!

Had a moment where I thought I'd hit the expiration date.  Fortunately the ink was merely blurry.

[Marshal_General]

Sounds like the recharge SOs slotted into the WIKI has been out-leveled.

[Bill Z Bubba]

14 hours ago, Luminara said:

So are most of us.

 

I may be old but like a fine barrel aged stout, I'm only getting more glorious with age.

[Troo]

1 hour ago, Marshal_General said:

Sounds like the recharge SOs slotted into the WIKI has been out-leveled.

 

that or the wiki proc just isn't firing.

[Techwright]

On 12/20/2021 at 6:01 PM, Aurora_Girl said:

 

Paragon Wiki is old and outdated.

 

16 hours ago, Luminara said:

 

So are most of us.

 

I prefer to identify as "Legacy".

 

 

Actually, as to not using PW as Aurora_Girl mentioned, I wish Google search would get a clue.  I've typed in "City of Heroes Homecoming Wiki", or variations on that, on more than a few occasions only to have all the old stuff pop up first.

Edited December 22, 2021 by Techwright

[Shenanigunner]

5 hours ago, Techwright said:

I've typed in "City of Heroes Homecoming Wiki", or variations on that, on more than a few occasions only to have all the old stuff pop up first.

 

Search results are driven by what people seek out and click on. As long as the old wiki exists and players not here in the knowledgesphere keep going there, that's how it's gonna be.

 

 

5 hours ago, Techwright said:

I wish Google search would get a clue.

 

You might want to start with something simple like world peace or a cure for cancer.

[Greycat]

2 hours ago, Shenanigunner said:

 

Search results are driven by what people seek out and click on. As long as the old wiki exists and players not here in the knowledgesphere keep going there, that's how it's gonna be.

 

 

And the "old" wiki and HC Wiki aren't that different. Yes, they're starting to diverge, obviously, but for most things, it hasn't changed. (And in relevance to the topic, perfectly sensible to use to troubleshoot "is it me or the site loading slowly.")

 

The problematic wikis are the "wikia" and/or "fandom" ones, which weren't even up to date and/or solidly incorrect even well before shutdown.

[Ukase]

On 12/20/2021 at 5:01 PM, Aurora_Girl said:

 

Paragon Wiki is old and outdated. Please don't use it or, by mentioning it, advocate its use. 

I will continue to use it because it is useful. The HC Wiki is pretty much a standard copy. Very little has been updated to reflect the newer data. 

And, when I go to update certain things in the HC wiki, I find that it's already been updated, aside from a few things that weren't. (so I edit them and update it)

I get that it's a work in progress, but until that progress is complete, there's absolutely nothing wrong with using it. It's the same thing, practically. I see no harm in it. 

Edited December 22, 2021 by Ukase

[DoctorDitko]

Well, it does add a burden of FAQ to the Devs when someone takes it as gospel and complains "it's not working like they say it should!"

 

OTOH, I appreciate it as a historical reference that doesn't rely on the Wayback Machine.

[UltraAlt]

4 hours ago, DoctorDitko said:

OTOH, I appreciate it as a historical reference that doesn't rely on the Wayback Machine.

[DoctorDitko]

That's the ticket!

 

http://wayback.archive.org/

 

Peabody and Sherman are currently AFK, but feel free to use the machine!

[Ukase]

There's a distinction between using it and then telling a newer player to use it. 

I typically use the wiki myself to find the answer to a newer player's question if I don't know it off the top of my head. I'll know if I need the HC or can safely use the older version. 

I prefer the older one because of where the search text box location is, and it auto-fills. The HC Wiki is not the same in this regard. No idea why they changed that, but they did. Eventually, I'll get used to it. 

I have both bookmarked, but in my case, I play on HC and Rebirth. So, using the HC Wiki would sometimes be incorrect for that server. Thus, my affinity for the original version. 
 

[Troo]

trooth:

 

https://archive.paragonwiki.com/wiki/Official_Forums

 

https://web.archive.org/web/20121108232155/http://boards.cityofheroes.com/

[Corlagon]

On 12/25/2021 at 3:56 PM, Ukase said:

I prefer the older one because of where the search text box location is, and it auto-fills. The HC Wiki is not the same in this regard. No idea why they changed that, but they did. Eventually, I'll get used to it.

 

You can change it back in Preferences if you have an account.

 

On 12/25/2021 at 3:56 PM, Ukase said:

I have both bookmarked, but in my case, I play on HC and Rebirth. So, using the HC Wiki would sometimes be incorrect for that server. Thus, my affinity for the original version.

 

Rebirth has its own wiki fork – it's actually older than HC's.  (I think. I'm not familiar with Rebirth, I only happened upon it once.)