The maps in CoH are F-d up

[Michiyo]

2 minutes ago, Snarky said:

evidently the launcher was in there too.  now my launch icon failed....

No, I can assure you, the only thing in your data directory was Vidiots, the launcher doesn't run from there.  If your game isn't launching after doing anything to the data directory something is very wrong.  You didn't modify the "C:\Games\Homecoming", directory just the "data" directory inside it right?

[Snarky]

2 minutes ago, Michiyo said:

No, I can assure you, the only thing in your data directory was Vidiots, the launcher doesn't run from there.  If your game isn't launching after doing anything to the data directory something is very wrong.  You didn't modify the "C:\Games\Homecoming", directory just the "data" directory inside it right?

i did this....

 

ust totally rename or remove the data directory in C:\Games\Homecoming, the only thing in there is a Vidiotmaps install.

 

well ... remove the data directory C:\Games\Homecoming   this....

 

so, delete c/games/homecoming/data?

Edited December 25, 2024 by Snarky

[Michiyo]

I said to remove or rename the data directory:

Not the entire Homecoming directory.  Did you delete JUST "data", or, the entire Homecoming directory?

[Snarky]

5 minutes ago, Michiyo said:

I said to remove or rename the data directory:

Not the entire Homecoming directory.  Did you delete JUST "data", or, the entire Homecoming directory?

yes.  you did.  but...  you are dealing with a bloodthirsty maniac with attention span issues.   all fixed now and bicentennial badges showing up.  testing sirens/cim now.

 

YES  i have working city maps now.  thank you!  great holiday gift!

Edited December 25, 2024 by Snarky

[Jacke]

13 hours ago, Snarky said:

Its funny. But it is also not funny.  I know it is an older game with limited QOL features.  Still…

 

Atlas Park recently lost all its loc badges and plaques in my game.  Michiyo helped me get the modder to fix that. Thanks.  
 

Siren’s Call has been rotated 90 degrees for years.  Cimerora still has the map pre “major change”.  None of my maps except AP show the new plaques that you need to collect 19? of.  So none of my toons have the badge.  I have actually gotten used to Sirens call and navigate based on transposing it in my head.   It gets old though.

 

That screams you have had cruft in your install, especially not having the changes to Siren's Call and Cimerora.  If you've installed no other mod manually besides older VidiotMaps:

• Clear out <City Install Root>/data/
  • If you're not sure, replay with what you've found and I'll let you know.
  • Legitimate stuff in data/ are manual installed mods including:
    • customwindows/  The custom.window files for that slightly buggy way to handle Macros.
    • fonts/  Replacement font files.
    • sound/ogg/  Replacement sound files in a tree structure.
    • texts/<Client language>/menus/  Manually installed Popmenu files.
    • texture_library/GUI/Cursors/  Replacement cursor files.
• Check that <City Install Root>/assets/mods/ contains only mod files you've install via City Modder.

I've been very careful and have a number of manual mods in data/, along with a manual install of VidiotMaps in assets/mods/, but don't have any issues.

 

 

Edited December 25, 2024 by Jacke

[Snarky]

3 minutes ago, Jacke said:

 

That screams you have had cruft in your install, especially not having the changes to Siren's Call and Cimerora.  If you've installed no other mod manually besides older VidiotMaps:

• Clear out <City Install Root>/data/
  • If you're not sure, replay with what you've found and I'll let you know.
  • Legitimate stuff in data/ are manual installed mods including:
    • customwindows/  The custom.window files for that slightly buggy way to handle Macros.
    • fonts/  Replacement font files.
    • sound/ogg/  Replacement sound files in a tree structure.
    • texts/<Client language>/menus/  Manually installed Popmenu files.
    • texture_library/GUI/Cursors/  Replacement cursor files.
• Check that <City Install Root>/assets/mods/ contains only mod files you've install via City Modder.

I've been very careful and have a number of manual mods in data/, along with a manual install of VidiotMaps in assets/mods/, but don't have any issues.

 

 

thanks.  Michiyo fixed it.  once i figured out how to follow the instructions....

[Captain Fabulous]

Actual footage of Snarky trying to use a keyboard.

[biostem]

36 minutes ago, Snarky said:

thanks.  Michiyo fixed it.  once i figured out how to follow the instructions....

That's why I surreptitiously put "open other end" on both ends of your coffin lid... 

[Shin Magmus]

7 hours ago, Snarky said:

thanks.  Michiyo fixed it.  once i figured out how to follow the instructions....

Better late than never. 

[Ukase]

14 hours ago, Snarky said:

once i figured out how to follow the instructions....

Gonna cut you some slack there. Dealing with file structures and such..it's just not intuitive if you haven't done it more than a few times. And credit to those who painstakingly tried to get you through the process (@michiyo). It can be a challenge trying to explain things when folks typically have accumulated all kinds of stuff in all kinds of places. My own installation of HC:CoH is a mess. The additional installations of a few other flavors of CoH don't make it any easier. 

Some day in the future, probably when I upgrade my mother board and CPU to adapt to Windows 11 or 12, or whatever the version will be up by the time I have to abandon Win 10, I might endeavor to do fresh installs of everything. Certainly not any time soon! 

[BlackSpectre]

59 minutes ago, Ukase said:

Some day in the future, probably when I upgrade my mother board and CPU to adapt to Windows 11 or 12, or whatever the version will be up by the time I have to abandon Win 10, I might endeavor to do fresh installs of everything. Certainly not any time soon! 

It’s very easy to do a fresh install. The only issue is saving the files that you want to save… screenshots, window, option, and keybind settings, builds, possibly logs. 
 

Homecoming has actually made that a lot easier than in previous installs by separating and laying out the data folders that players would like to keep. Hmmmm.  Maybe that would be a good page to write up at the wiki… hasn’t thought of that before. 🙂

 

[Luminara]

5 minutes ago, BlackSpectre said:

Homecoming has actually made that a lot easier than in previous installs by separating and laying out the data folders that players would like to keep. Hmmmm.  Maybe that would be a good page to write up at the wiki… hasn’t thought of that before. 🙂

 

The entire game, plus launcher, can be installed to an external drive.  I have it on a USB-C 1TB SSD.

 

And Windows allows folder redirects.  I've pointed my Documents, Downloads, Pictures and Videos folders to the same SSD.

 

I ain't losin' nothin' now... unless my cabin is sucked into another universe.  Or @Snarky tries to perform basic file operations on my laptop... that would probably be more catastrophic.

[Greycat]

On 12/24/2024 at 5:32 AM, Snarky said:

Siren’s Call has been rotated 90 degrees for years. 

 

You got it fixed, but if you think the *map* being rotated was weird, try having the actual zone rotated... I logged into one character (after ... whichever change it was) and they were outside the war walls in Siren's a while ago.

[biostem]

1 hour ago, Greycat said:

they were outside the war walls in Siren's a while ago

That sounds kinda cool - I only seem to get the glitch where you're under PI...

 

Pasted for no reason whatsoever...

[Major_Decoy]

On 12/24/2024 at 1:08 PM, Riverdusk said:

I assumed this thread was going to be about things like why each floor of the office buildings has its own elevator that only goes up and down 1 floor.

We've covered this, it's because normal elevators have such small weight limits and you never know when a team of eight robots is going to jump in, so instead of fragile wires pulling up and down the elevators, there are hydraulic pistons.

[GM Crumpet]

On 12/24/2024 at 11:59 PM, Snarky said:

evidently the launcher was in there too.  now my launch icon failed....

 

 

i may be in the wrong place.  there is a lot in there screenshots, and bunches of stuff

 

It's here

 

 

The folder marked Data just rename to data1

 

Edited December 28, 2024 by GM Crumpet

[Glacier Peak]

It's odd, but I have two of those exact same folder directories and every time I want to change a pop menu I relearn how confused I was and some how still am about where I put things. 

[Cobalt Arachne]

On 12/24/2024 at 12:54 PM, tidge said:

afaik the only ones that are "messed up" are the safeguard/mayhem maps for Atlas Park and Founders Falls.

These are due to an extents issue in Atlas Park, and a mini map scale issue in Founder's Falls; Fixes to both are coming in the future.

[WanderingAries]

On 12/28/2024 at 2:41 AM, biostem said:

That sounds kinda cool - I only seem to get the glitch where you're under PI...

 

Pasted for no reason whatsoever...

 

40 years ago, quite a few people likely Wanted to be under...*glances up*..."PI".  >.>  <.<  >.>

[WanderingAries]

On 12/24/2024 at 7:46 PM, Snarky said:

 

 

A bit late to the party, but give or take any updates to the file structure since written, I imagine that this would have helped some.

 

 

[Snarky]

2 hours ago, WanderingAries said:

 

A bit late to the party, but give or take any updates to the file structure since written, I imagine that this would have helped some.

 

 

just looking at that post makes me want to do nothing.  so i kind of doubt it.

[Greycat]

On 12/28/2024 at 1:41 AM, biostem said:

That sounds kinda cool - I only seem to get the glitch where you're under PI...

 

 

Note where my character marker is on the map... 😄

 

[Doomguide2005]

@Snarky

     Don't worry none, you've got nothing on a former co-worker.  She once set about cleaning up her desk top and didn't recognize this icon labeled MS-DOS and moved it to the trash can with predictable results.  I'm a complete noob myself when it comes to it but even I wouldn't ... just no.

[Doc_Scorpion]

8 hours ago, Doomguide2005 said:

Don't worry none, you've got nothing on a former co-worker.  She once set about cleaning up her desk top and didn't recognize this icon labeled MS-DOS and moved it to the trash can with predictable results.

To entertain his preschool daughter, a friend once installed a mod on his Mac.  When you dragged something to the trashcan, up popped her favorite Sesame Street character - Oscar The Grouch, singing "I Like Trash".

One day his daughter came across the computer, unlocked and unattended...

[Chris24601]

On 12/24/2024 at 4:08 PM, Riverdusk said:

I assumed this thread was going to be about things like why each floor of the office buildings has its own elevator that only goes up and down 1 floor.

My favorite fanon explanation is its a Midnight Squad ritual thing in association with the office of city planning. The office arrangements and how people have to navigate them to get to and from their place of work act as a perpetual ritual that keeps an Eldritch Abomination buried deep beneath the Earth asleep.

 

Should normal practical geometry be introduced the world would be doomed.