fitzsimmons Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 I've found from time to time that some people join higher level teams, task forces, strike forces, what-have-you without having anything slotted. Was on an MLTF yesterday and there was an elec/shield brute who was vet level 1, toon created within the last few days and had powers like fly, stealth, invisibility and phase shift. OK, maybe they're mule powers? I asked and he confirmed he had nothing slotted. The worst part is that he didn't even run to the tree room for us and ATT and that was something he was perfectly equipped for. By the time I noticed and had asked him, we had already started the first mission. So he stayed on the team, contributing what he could. I've seen the same thing on ITFs but I'm sure it happens all over the place. So just a bit of a tip, take a look to see who's on the team and have a look at their builds if you're not interested in carrying extra weight. Regards, Dave 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skoryy Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 (edited) 22 minutes ago, fitzsimmons said: So just a bit of a tip, take a look to see who's on the team and have a look at their builds if you're not interested in carrying extra weight. Here's another one: Leave L2P drama at the other MMOs. Edited September 5, 2020 by skoryy 8 1 1 Everlasting's Actionette Also Wolfhound, Starwave, Blue Gale, Relativity Rabbit, and many more! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulpoid Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 How are you viewing other players slotting? I understand you can see IO set bonuses... But slotting? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coyotedancer Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 Uhm... You do know that quite a lot of us take flight as our travel power, right? There's nothing at all unusual in that. Likewise, the Concealment pool powers are pretty common picks, both as Gambler mules and as situationally-useful powers on their own. 2 2 Taker of screenshots. Player of creepy Oranbegans and Rularuu bird-things. Kai's Diary: The Scrapbook of a Sorcerer's Apprentice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fitzsimmons Posted September 5, 2020 Author Share Posted September 5, 2020 13 minutes ago, Vulpoid said: How are you viewing other players slotting? I understand you can see IO set bonuses... But slotting? You can't. If they have no set bonuses, I send 'em a tell and ask if they have SOs or generic IOs slotted. If I'm recruiting, I'll typically say "please be reasonably slotted'. Subjective but all I'm after is at least SOs for the higher level content. I'll PL people but that's different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fitzsimmons Posted September 5, 2020 Author Share Posted September 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, Coyotedancer said: Uhm... You do know that quite a lot of us take flight as our travel power, right? There's nothing at all unusual in that. Likewise, the Concealment pool powers are pretty common picks, both as Gambler mules and as situationally-useful powers on their own. Yep, in my post above I mentioned that they could be mules. I'm not criticizing the power picks. He confirmed he had nothing slotted. Anyway just a gripe throwaway post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sovera Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 2 hours ago, fitzsimmons said: So just a bit of a tip, take a look to see who's on the team and have a look at their builds if you're not interested in carrying extra weight. In a game this easy when we melt enemies and most people can actually solo the content but just play with others for the social aspect, where incarnates rub elbows with under level 50, 'extra weight' isn't much of a problem. Though I hope you gave them some pointers on builds or to check the forums because it sounds like a newbie who needs guidance, not a troll trying to be a nuisance and 'weight'. 6 2 - Simple guide for newcomers. - Money making included among other things. - Tanker Fire Armor: the Turtle, the Allrounder, the Dragon, and compilation of Fire Armor builds. - Tanker Stone Armor: beginner friendly (near) immortal Tanker for leveling/end-game and Stone Armor framework. - Brute Rad/Stone and compilation of Brute Stone Armor builds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troyusrex Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 3 hours ago, fitzsimmons said: I've found from time to time that some people join higher level teams, task forces, strike forces, what-have-you without having anything slotted. I have to admit I played an entire TF (Citadel) with an grav/kin alt yesterday and only at the end did I realize the build was almost completely unslotted! Only ATOs and not all of those. But it was a very solid team so I didn't even notice! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myrmidon Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Coyotedancer said: Uhm... You do know that quite a lot of us take flight as our travel power, right? There's nothing at all unusual in that. Indeed, And some of us even use...*GASP*...Mystic Flight! I assure you, fitz, that you will NEVER be pulling my weight on a team.😉 Edited September 6, 2020 by Myrmidon 4 Playing CoX is it’s own reward Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Techwright Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 2 hours ago, Coyotedancer said: Gambler mules Apologies, I'm not familiar with this term. I know the standard mule in an MMO, I've even had a few, but what's the "gambler" adjective bring to it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fitzsimmons Posted September 6, 2020 Author Share Posted September 6, 2020 1 minute ago, Techwright said: Apologies, I'm not familiar with this term. I know the standard mule in an MMO, I've even had a few, but what's the "gambler" adjective bring to it? The IO, Luck of the Gambler, typically 1 slotted with the 7.5% recharge. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greycat Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 2 hours ago, fitzsimmons said: You can't. If they have no set bonuses, I send 'em a tell and ask if they have SOs or generic IOs slotted. If I'm recruiting, I'll typically say "please be reasonably slotted'. Being honest, if a team lead sent me that, they'd be told "Fully slotted with nunyas." If they ask what that is? "Nunya damn business." 3 1 8 Done with the Kheld "community" here. Since they obviously don't care about anything lore wise and crap on people who do. Kheld backstory guide might be uploaded in a non-Homecoming location when I finish the revision. No, it may not be put on the HC wiki, and what was there of my first one has been removed. Please do not reupload. I'm not giving the people here the benefit of the work just to be crapped on and told "lol, lore for a lore based AT, doesn't matter, f you." (You can than SS, OG and the rest for making that very clear.) (Note, this refers to the playerbase, not the devs.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Myshkin Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 13 minutes ago, Greycat said: "Fully slotted with nunyas." Oh man, I want to put that in all my character descriptions now. They'll be curious and go to the powers listing and see a mile-long bonus sheet, but nothing that says "nunyas," which will inevitably get that tell... "What's a Nunyas?" 1 1 Pylon Test Run Submission Proc Monsters (Controller Edition) Proc Monsters (Defender Edition) Pylon Test Run Results Proc Monsters (Tanker Edition) "Mad King Special" "Ceterum autem censeo Iram esse delendam" Mad King Special - Force Edition (NEW!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fitzsimmons Posted September 6, 2020 Author Share Posted September 6, 2020 39 minutes ago, Myrmidon said: Indeed, And some of us even use...*GASP*...Mystic Flight! I assure you, fitz, that you will NEVER be pulling my weight on a team.😉 Not sure I can. I hurt my back last week. Let me clear something up. My criticism isn't on the power choices. Let me give some additional context and how logic plays into this. The toon is a fresh 50, vet level 1, created a few days ago. I PL a lot, I PL other people from time to time as mentioned above as well as my own toons. I get it. It's perfectly reasonable that someone picks flight, stealth, invisibility and phase shift on any toon. However because it was a fresh toon and there were no set bonusses, I see no problem asking if they have anything at all slotted. Why else would someone choose flight and invis on a toon? To fly to safety on any one of several farm maps. No criticism if that is the case. But that's the gist of my point. So don't focus on me mentioning powers but certainly criticize the fact that I have an issue with folks joining high level content knowingly (in my opinion) with absolutely no enhancements slotted. Regards, Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fitzsimmons Posted September 6, 2020 Author Share Posted September 6, 2020 3 minutes ago, Sir Myshkin said: Oh man, I want to put that in all my character descriptions now. They'll be curious and go to the powers listing and see a mile-long bonus sheet, but nothing that says "nunyas," which will inevitably get that tell... "What's a Nunyas?" I don't think it'd work on most. Nunya business is an old bit. You may have better luck saying that you have "deez" slotted. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machariel Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 I came into this thread hoping someone had made cool paperweights out of the AT logos, because I have been watching too many woodworking + epoxy resin pouring videos on Youtube. 6 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironblade Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 5 hours ago, fitzsimmons said: You can't. If they have no set bonuses, I send 'em a tell and ask if they have SOs or generic IOs slotted. And I'd reply with, "Why do you ask?" 😛 Originally on Infinity. I have Ironblade on every shard. - My only AE arc: The Origin of Mark IV (ID 48002) Link to the story of Toggle Man, since I keep having to track down my original post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coyotedancer Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 They're running on NOs. 4 Taker of screenshots. Player of creepy Oranbegans and Rularuu bird-things. Kai's Diary: The Scrapbook of a Sorcerer's Apprentice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Yomo Kimyata Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 12 hours ago, fitzsimmons said: So don't focus on me mentioning powers but certainly criticize the fact that I have an issue with folks joining high level content knowingly (in my opinion) with absolutely no enhancements slotted. When I have the ability to team, I often run mission content at my level range for xp and advertise for all comers. Don’t care if they are unslotted or lvl 5 or rikti monkeys — that content, for the most part is trivial and I want the companionship for a little more Xp and to help people level and maybe some funny conversation. however, I see truth in @fitzsimmonspoint. If you are running a M of TF, it’s a lot harder to carry dead weight, and you shouldn’t have to. Mind you, I’m only thinking of the 1% of the most difficult content. I also agree that an imperfect short cut to identify unslotted characters is to look at their set bonuses. Sure they could be on SOs or common IOs, but I’d guess 99% of the time they are just unslotted. i don’t think it’s too much to ask that if someone wants to join a Master TF, that they should be slotted. I’d probably generalize that to any level 50 content. After all, that’s presumably why you PLed to 50 in the first place? my two inf 4 1 Who run Bartertown? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazl Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 If your going to run a PL toon, I would think you would want to slot something. SO's or basic IO's at least until you settle on the build. When I PL an alt that's one of the first things I do before running any content just solo. I wouldn't even consider teams until the toon has some kind of build and I'm comfortable with the power set mechanics. 1 1 Dazl - Excelsior Grav/Kinetic Controller (SG - Cosmic Council) | Dazl - Everlasting & Torchbearer Grav/Energy Dominator Shadowspawn - Excelsior Dark/Dark Stalker | Pyro Kinetic -Everlasting Fire/Kinetic Corrupter | Nova Pyre - Everlasting Fire/Fire/Fire Blaster (OMG) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfshadow31 Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 My response... Fully slotted with FO’s. Im sure you can all guess what F and O stand for Lol 3 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirai Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 14 hours ago, fitzsimmons said: Why else would someone choose flight and invis on a toon? To fly to safety on any one of several farm maps. No criticism if that is the case. But that's the gist of my point. I use those powers on most of my characters, and I don't farm at all. I use Fly to get around town. I actually use stealth because I don't like farming. Sneaking through some missions can help me avoid a lot of repetitive fights. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmmySky Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 On a few of my 50s I skipped a few levels by visiting AE. At 50 they have an old school build but using common IOs. I have 4 tables in the base full of lvl 50 common IOs so that, PLed or regular leveling, I can run the toons while I earn/craft their incarnates and find out where they need bonus stuff. I have been known to forget the 'place enhancements' step and run empty. If people are looking at my set bonuses before we start in order to determine if I am worthy, its not a team I need anyway. If they are looking at my set bonuses while we play because I suck or keep dying, its most likely to offer advice or cash. I have a 'full scrapperlock full time' playstyle on all my toons. Even well slotted blasters die occasionally lol. For this reason, I would never join a Master run of anything with any of my toons 😁 To the OP: Sometimes we just gotta vent. I get ya. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fitzsimmons Posted September 6, 2020 Author Share Posted September 6, 2020 4 hours ago, Mirai said: I use those powers on most of my characters, and I don't farm at all. I use Fly to get around town. I actually use stealth because I don't like farming. Sneaking through some missions can help me avoid a lot of repetitive fights. Knock knock. Who's there? Context Context who? Context you glad I didn't say banana? I apologize, this reply is snarky but I'm going to post it anyway because I lack self control as evidenced by the 2 cannolis I just ate. Regards, Dave 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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